Does the chick have pink legs Finnie? I've always found that Cinnamons seem to have pink feet and legs - that could help you out with the cinnamon issue

I kept the second and fourth chicks from this clutch. Here they are molting. (Pretty bad pictures, I know.)

 

Once they are all done with their molt and have adult feathers, I'll have to catch them up and get them into some better lighting to get some usuable photos.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well Mystery is even more of a Mystery than before.

 

I have to say that I really didn't think he was violet looking at him or at the chick colours BUT gee that cheek patch on chick 3 is sooooo dark I'm tending to think now that he might well be. So you probably have a combination of skys, light greens and dark green violets look at the babies now.

 

My first thinking was cinnamon split greywing for mystery but that doesn't really explain the differences between the chicks wing markings very well. My thought were initially all greywings and opaline greywings apart from chick five who looked to me to be not a normal but probably a cinnamon greywing but that would only work if the chick was a hen and it's a cock isn't it?! So if in fact it is a cock bird then I think you probably are playing with a combination of clearwing, greywing and cinnamon. The wing and body colour modifyers of greywing and clearwing seems to be almost readily swapped around so you tend to end up with a huge combo of different characteristics spread through the chicks - clearer wings on what otherwise looks to be a greywing, brighter body colour on what ordinarily is a 50% body colour on greywings etc.

 

I get the odd dilute from my clear clearwings that show no wing markings at all when ordinarily they have noticable markings (wing modifiers have been carried over even though the offspring is actually a dilute).

 

So probably at a best guess Mystery is cinnamon split greywing and your hen is greywing/clearwing.

 

I would definitely pitch at chick 2 being a cinnamon greywing but don't forget that opaline will affect the colouring and how the wing colouring appears.

 

This is what i really like about breeding pet budgies - the fun surprises you get in the clutches and trying to work out where it all might have come from!

Allways hard to tell from photos but I reckon both parents are Full Body Coloured Greywings.

 

Chick 1 = Clearwing Light Green

Chick 2 = Opaline Clearwing Light Green

Chick 3 = Clearwing Dark Green

Chick 4 = Opaline FBC Greywing Dark Green

Chick 5 = Opaline FBC Greywing Dark Green

Chick 6 = Clearing Light Green

Thank you, Nubbly. Your input is very helpful.

 

It is true that this was one of the more fun clutches I have had, because of all the unexpected things. I'm really glad to hear that you think the clearwing gene really is floating around in there. In a way, I would like to repeat this breeding, because I thought that some of the chicks came out really beautiful. In fact, I was a little bummed at myself for selling a couple of them, but I had promised them to people while they still weren't fully feathered.

 

But I also like GB's suggestion to find a cinnamon hen for him that isn't split to greywing, because then if there can't be any visual greywing chicks, the cinnamon will show up better. (If I can find a hen like that. So far all mine are split to greywing, except for one who is also recessive pied, and if I got all rec. pied chicks, then the markings would be harder to determine, plus they would all have plum eyes, which would confuse the issue even more.)

 

So that's two potential breedings for Mystery. And then now that I know about the clearwing, I want to put him with some hen who will bring that out. Discover whether the clearwing came from him, or whether he might be split to dilute, allowing the clearwing from Nelly to show up. So I guess I want to look for either a dilute hen for him, or a clearwing hen that isn't a full body greywing. (i.e. clearwing/clearwing, clearwing/dilute, or dilute/dilute.) And the trouble there is if I mis-identify the hen, then I throw off the results of the chicks. So I need to be careful finding the right hen.

 

So other than Nelly, I need to find two perfect hens for Mystery. And then he needs to get busy!

 

 

Oh, and chick 5 was the only other one who was starting to have hen-like tendancies, just before I sold him. And I stressed to the buyer that if he did end up being a girl, I really needed to know. Really nice people, I will call them if I don't hear back by the time the moult shoud be over.

 

Allways hard to tell from photos but I reckon both parents are Full Body Coloured Greywings.

 

Chick 1 = Clearwing Light Green

Chick 2 = Opaline Clearwing Light Green

Chick 3 = Clearwing Dark Green

Chick 4 = Opaline FBC Greywing Dark Green

Chick 5 = Opaline FBC Greywing Dark Green

Chick 6 = Clearing Light Green

 

 

Thank you, RIP, we posted at the same time! That is valuable to me, too. Now I can go back over the photos with this information, and absorb it all in. (I have LOTS of photos that never made it on this post .)