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hello again

i was wanting to find out from others here if the breeding of clear body's to produce lacewings or lacewings to produce clear body's actually worked or if it was like

ino x lacewing and more so than not affected the standard of the birds

 

i feel that it would play with the clear body due to the cinnamon factor but would it affect the lacewing due to the clear body's retaining of fading out ???

 

i really am interested to hear from anyone whom has tryed this pairing before and results of chicks as in quality of mutation i do know the out comes just not the visual result of birds

thanks in advance

gb

hello again

i was wanting to find out from others here if the breeding of clear body's to produce lacewings or lacewings to produce clear body's actually worked or if it was like

ino x lacewing and more so than not affected the standard of the birds

 

i feel that it would play with the clear body due to the cinnamon factor but would it affect the lacewing due to the clear body's retaining of fading out ???

 

i really am interested to hear from anyone whom has tryed this pairing before and results of chicks as in quality of mutation i do know the out comes just not the visual result of birds

thanks in advance

gb

 

Gb, if you put cinnamon into your clearbodies you will only be able to show the cinnamon clearbodies in the Non Standard class, I personally whould stay away from cinnamon , unless of course you are breeding for pet birds.

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hello again

i was wanting to find out from others here if the breeding of clear body's to produce lacewings or lacewings to produce clear body's actually worked or if it was like

ino x lacewing and more so than not affected the standard of the birds

 

i feel that it would play with the clear body due to the cinnamon factor but would it affect the lacewing due to the clear body's retaining of fading out ???

 

i really am interested to hear from anyone whom has tryed this pairing before and results of chicks as in quality of mutation i do know the out comes just not the visual result of birds

thanks in advance

gb

 

Gb, if you put cinnamon into your clearbodies you will only be able to show the cinnamon clearbodies in the Non Standard class, I personally whould stay away from cinnamon , unless of course you are breeding for pet birds.

 

 

but if i breed a clearbody cock to lacewing hen

giving

Clearbody Cock X lacewing Hen = 50% Clearbody Split lacewing Cocks

50% Clearbody Hens

 

then culled all cocks id get clearbody hens

 

just i dont have any clearbody hens of good worth bar a Australian golden face violet clearbody hen and thats just omg lol

 

yet i have 10 lacewing hens all with the needed quality

it would just be to start off with as i have two clearbody cocks only issue is their both split ino so im not sure what will then arise

but if i get binos its k so but i just want few nice clearbody hens though this may be a good short cut

 

 

you stay steer clear how about if it was just two clutches to get few clearbody hens as they will not be cinnamon only the cocks would be split

well if you are removing any splits that will later affect your clearbody lines I don't see an issue. it seems you have thought it out for a while. You would have to be happy to cull the extra males from the pair.

 

Is the lacewing hen of good stock to put to the cock??

Do you have other hens?

 

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Edited by *Nerwen*

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i have otherhens but all my birds i am breeding for different features

some for mask in spots

some for length in stance

others for feather and shoulder

im starting right at the bottom and slowly moving my way up i will be keeping my lines quiet separate for a few years

 

my lacewings have the head and feather i want in my clearbodys

my spangles have the head and feather for my albinos which have the length and carage

and my normal grey hens are adding some feather and length in mask to my albinos along with shoulder

 

so i dont have a big stud only 130 birds but im looking at revising this to 50

so im looking at ways i can breed three variety's still including my lacewings and albinos clearbodys will fit latter with my inos but for now i need them to improve their in a little program i have set out before anything gets into them they are a line all of their own and the grey hens are part of that so i have only doms or lacewings or spangles all of which i dont want to risk if im already culling half clutch due to culling cocks

does this make sense

 

but my spangles and albinos wont be combining for a while yet i need to get a full bird of each before i move o that step will be few years im sure

Well GB, RIP might have some solid ideas about this topic as the very first lacewing hen I bred was bred from a clearbody split lacewing cock of hers. Personally I don't really see the point unless the clearbody is SO strong that it will improve your lacewing line or visa versa but from what I've seen it's probably easier to stick with normals. BUT seeing as you have features on your lacewings that you want in your clearbodies it's definitely worth a try.

 

As there is much less wastage from sex linked recessives I personally don't see the advantage of breeding with a bird in the same allelic series of varieties but then I don't also have clearbodies as a variety in my aviary.

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well i dont have to worry about this thought any more nubbly

as i went into my flight today and i swang the net and what ever i caught out it went up to 50 birds :(

i really culled hard

im bit scarred actually

but i need to cut back and i really dont know what im doing but im kind of over all the **** show birds bring its not turning out to be the enjoyable hobby i had with my pets

im not quitting im just reviewing my overall aim

 

but so you know

i have retained all the birds i have gotten from you and all the chicks i have breed from them in the last year i have 16 chicks all up :)

in fact im very quiet happy with the birds i got from you over most of my stud and the rezults ive had from them sadley i lost my cinnamon boy and right now his brother doesnt look to good :(

i have no idea whats up but hes been not looking good for few days i took him out of flock but for 3 days was fine so let him back today

my fingers are crossed :unsure:

Gosh Gb it sounds like you culled really hard.

You know that is what I do, plus it makes room for improvement.

I can't see the sense of keeping meady oka birds unless the they are from a strong line.

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Gosh Gb it sounds like you culled really hard.

You know that is what I do, plus it makes room for improvement.

I can't see the sense of keeping meady oka birds unless the they are from a strong line.

 

 

real hard and im really frightened too i had to many bits and peaces so i decided to just get rid of anything thats a bit and needs a peaice

i obviously kept the op spangle shes one my best stock hens along with my caufeild hen but they are all getting on and ive not used em really due to timing and weather

Good idea to try and focus on certain blood, I have a solid blood line going here, no bits and pieces.

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