I have had this pied cock for several years now, I tried to breed him couple of times to a show type skyblue opaline hen, but the mating never succeeded. Nevertheless I was keen to know something about his appearances so my only choice was to breed him to a cinnamon opaline dominant pied hen, as at that time I had no other females ols enough etc. The result is the yellow chick below. The case is, that he's got clear iris rings and a pink cere, very few markings and colour mostly in the rump and lower stomach - and so does his only offspring.

 

 

The cock in question is the one in the front

 

 

 

 

 

 

And his only chick few months old

 

 

And a year old in his new home

 

 

So now I finally managed to get a new hen, somewhat more suitable for him (not pied) and will try to breed again. This time the hen is a grey green opaline. But what do you think this far? I might have posted about him before, but I couldn't find the thread. You think he might be just a combination of dominant and recessive pied?

 

 

so this bird has iress rings and you breed him to a cinnamon dom pied hen

so the cock also is a dom pied if he has iris rings and hes split to cinnamon as the son is cinnamon the son also is a df dom pied if he grew iris rings i couldnot see the picture of him grown could you post another please but if hes got iris rings he two is a df dom pied not a rec pied as rececive pieds have no iris rings df doms get mistaken for rec pieds all time

hes a beautiful chick very beautiful

So it's the latter picture of the chick you cannot see?

 

I try again:

 

 

Can you see it now? Anyway, he's got iris rings and colour in the lower stomac, markings are actually not brown, but typically to recessive pieds something only nearly black.

 

First I thought my cock was a recessive pied, as I didn't notice any iris rings on him. This was maybe 1,5 years ago, when I suddenly realized he actually has iris rings. He's 4 years old atm. I think it was the head and the feathers that where in the way of seeing his eyes properly and the fact that he's very much like a tyical rec pied what comes to his appearances in other aspects so I wasn't really even looking for any iris rings.. But if they'd both be just dominant pieds, what's with the ceres then? SF dominant pied cock has a blue cere and DF dominant pieds have it lilac. And both of these, the father and the son have pink ceres and iris rings? That's why I was thinking of a combination of those two mutations...

So it's the latter picture of the chick you cannot see?

 

I try againm the one on the left:

 

 

Can you see it now? Anyway, he's got iris rings and colour in the lower stomac, markings are actually not brown, but typically to recessive pieds something only nearly black.

 

First I thought my cock was a recessive pied, as I didn't notice any iris rings on him. This was maybe 1,5 years ago, when I suddenly realized he actually has iris rings. He's 4 years old atm. I think it was the head and the feathers that where in the way of seeing his eyes properly and the fact that he's very much like a tyical rec pied what comes to his appearances in other aspects so I wasn't really even looking for any iris rings.. But if they'd both be just dominant pieds, what's with the ceres then? SF dominant pied cock has a blue cere and DF dominant pieds have it lilac. And both of these, the father and the son have pink ceres and iris rings? That's why I was thinking of a combination of those two mutations...

Now most likely confirmed as a rare variety dutch pied. He's got 2 fertile eggs this far with a grey green opaline hen split recessive pied, so we could be expecting even DEC to come out this pairing, if my cock also carries resessive gene. Though only with 12,5% probability.

 

The reason, so I have been now told by pied experts, why it isn't possible for him to be an australian pied, is the grizzle markings in the wings, which iare something only recessive or dutch pieds can have. Nevertheless, recessive pieds never have iris rings and dutch pieds always have iris rings. Also the "frosted" kind colouring this cock has, would indicate towards a dutch pied.

 

So, it'll be interesting next few weeks to see what comes out of the box. First egg is due sometime onwards 26th of Feb.