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We have an avairy and are oldest 2 budgies have done the deed LOTS and now have 6 eggs.

Problem is we have read lots on the internet about breeding budgies and our role.

We have a few things whicn have caused us some concern

 

The egss were laid every 2 days not daily as descibed in breeding section

5 of the eggs have that air pocket and are darker as descibed as infertile

Mum sits on the eggs all the time and doesnt seem to eat. The weather is nice and warm will she dehydrate

Dad is very protective and seems to spend lots of time with Mum and egss

 

So what i want to knwo is do we remove the eggs that are non fertile?

is 6 eggs too many?

WHy do people hand rear? is it because too many babies for mum and dad to cope with? how many is too many?

How do we offer a better chance for next time or the other pairs?

umm.... think that it is it for now. Anyone that could help or direct me to info would be excellent

 

Thansk again

TEAM A and K

We have an avairy and are oldest 2 budgies have done the deed LOTS and now have 6 eggs.

Problem is we have read lots on the internet about breeding budgies and our role.

We have a few things whicn have caused us some concern

 

The egss were laid every 2 days not daily as described in breeding section

 

i can tell you now our sight would not have eggs layed dayly as eggs are layed ever second day as you discribed

5 of the eggs have that air pocket and are darker as descibed as infertile

 

perl eggs are firtile pinkish tone eggs are not

our forum states this also even with pictures to show diffrents

 

Mum sits on the eggs all the time and doesnt seem to eat. The weather is nice and warm will she dehydrate

 

as long as theirs water clean freash everyday she will not

dad will be feeding her (you would hope ) i would watch to see if the dad is feeding the mum

 

 

Dad is very protective and seems to spend lots of time with Mum and egss

this two is normal

 

So what i want to knwo is do we remove the eggs that are non fertile? i would not myself

 

is 6 eggs too many? if pet type no not at all

WHy do people hand rear? to try and get more money for the birds and its not even nececery or as the birds life depends on it and it is needed for the chicks to live eg peronts both die

is it because too many babies for mum and dad to cope with? no

how many is too many? for pet as long as their feed well with lots seed n veg n fruit 8 is okay but normally only 6 to 8 would hatch out of 10 to 12 eggs so i wouldnt worry to much

 

How do we offer a better chance for next time or the other pairs? seperate cage breeding would be my suggestion

umm.... think that it is it for now. Anyone that could help or direct me to info would be excellent

be glad to help but im not able to place the right link im sure someone whom can use a com will gladly post a good link like kaz one about are you really ready to breed

 

Thansk again

TEAM A and K

We have an avairy and are oldest 2 budgies have done the deed LOTS and now have 6 eggs.

Problem is we have read lots on the internet about breeding budgies and our role.

We have a few things whicn have caused us some concern

 

The egss were laid every 2 days not daily as descibed in breeding section

5 of the eggs have that air pocket and are darker as descibed as infertile GB is right, clear pink eggs are freshly laid, clear yellow eggs are infertile, red/veiny eggs are fertile (eventually the chick grows so big it obscures the light), fertile eggs turn pearly white, infertile eggs start as pearly white (fertile) then turn grey after the embryo dies and begins to decompose.

Mum sits on the eggs all the time and doesnt seem to eat. The weather is nice and warm will she dehydrate Normal, cock bird will be feeding her seed/water mixture.

Dad is very protective and seems to spend lots of time with Mum and egss Normal, and at times quite annoying. Close observation usually reveals the cock birds trample all over the hen (looking for attention), and sometimes trample on the eggs as they are careless.

 

So what i want to knwo is do we remove the eggs that are non fertile? New/first time breeders should not remove eggs they 'think' are infertile until they are a week beyond the expected hatch date. Many-a-time those 'infertile' eggs have been cracked open to see whats inside and found a live embryo close to hatching that has died from the interference.

is 6 eggs too many?

WHy do people hand rear? is it because too many babies for mum and dad to cope with? how many is too many? Many reasons, neglected chicks, dead parents, vicious parents, weak parents unable to feed chicks without losing their own health, too many chicks (how many is too many is not a set number, some parents struggle to raise 3 chicks, some can manage 7-11 chicks just fine but would need a rest after - its all about watching and knowing your birds).

How do we offer a better chance for next time or the other pairs? Breeding is all about feed and condition. Ensure you are feeding good seed, fresh vegetables (at the very least broccoli and carrot), soft food when raising chicks and calcium/iodine and possibly vitamin supplements in either liquid or block form.

umm.... think that it is it for now. Anyone that could help or direct me to info would be excellent

 

Thansk again

TEAM A and K

 

Hope that helps.

We have an avairy and are oldest 2 budgies have done the deed LOTS and now have 6 eggs.

Problem is we have read lots on the internet about breeding budgies and our role.

We have a few things whicn have caused us some concern

 

The egss were laid every 2 days not daily as descibed in breeding section

 

Where do you think you saw about eggs being daily ? Because that isnt right for budgies. Every two days is right.

 

5 of the eggs have that air pocket and are darker as descibed as infertile

 

Fertile eggs have air pockets and look dark inside when they have been incubated awhile

 

Mum sits on the eggs all the time and doesnt seem to eat.

 

If she didnt eat she'd be dead by now. They cant go more than 24 hrs without food.

The weather is nice and warm will she dehydrate

No, she is eating and drinking. She will be leaving the nestbox for exercise, stretch a poop and eating and drinking, even if you havent noticed. She can be off her eggs for 20 mins at a time

 

Dad is very protective and seems to spend lots of time with Mum and eggs

 

Thats good

 

So what i want to knwo is do we remove the eggs that are non fertile?

You dont as you may not know which is and isnt fertile

 

is 6 eggs too many?

 

No

 

WHy do people hand rear?

Some people choose to. I only do it if things go wrong and there is no choice.

 

is it because too many babies for mum and dad to cope with?

 

how many is too many?

Too many eggs and the last ones get pooped on by earlier babies and are contaminated and dont end up hatching

How do we offer a better chance for next time or the other pairs?

Dont colony breed. Thats the best way to ensure success.....dont colony breed

umm.... think that it is it for now. Anyone that could help or direct me to info would be excellent

 

Thansk again

TEAM A and K

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Thanks so much everyone for your info and answering my questions.

 

As for fruit and veg outs get a AM sald/ veg mix and PM salad/ veg mix. Plus their seed and grass. Do they need any more addatives?

 

Happy to hear mum being on their all the time is a good thing. I have noticed on warmer days she is out more. I have been watching what Dad does and he doesnt stay in the box with mum like we first thought he goes in and out reguarly and man the top of the box but he is in and out so much looks like he lives there too LOL. I am glad it is him taking in food.

 

IWe actually got the birds as my youngest son is blind and he loves to sit by the avairy and listen. Being great joy to him and my hubby loves birds so an excuse for him to have his babies, as i have my guinea pigs.

So i feel a little unprepared :( the avairy we got came with a box attached and we didnt think it would be used as the cockatiels never used their. but now i need to post a picture somehwere because i think we might have 2 boys cockatiels anyway. I have been reading all about budgies and their behaviours as i said i feel a little caught off guard. When the budgies were in a smaller cage they never seemed to be interested in eachother, we actually thought they hated eachother then as soon as the had some more room they were off doing the need.

 

 

Colony breeding is avairy breeding right? I think i will look it and read up on how to do it outside the avairy. Luckily we had no box for so long and mum and dad are older as i have heard that young ones shouldnt breed. All our budgies are over 9 months old now and although no others have paired up, no... actually we have a female couple who stick together like glue.

 

Thanks so much for everyone help am going to go and pop up some pics now.

Nestboxes in most cases force them to breed. There should be no nestboxes anywhere a budgie is thats under 12 months. Something important to learn. Once you have fledged babies in the aviary there must be removal of the nestbox too or they too will try and breed because of the nestbox.

Colony breeding is budgies breeding with multiple others and nestboxes in an aviary. Safest way is to keep the aviary for their fun, holiday place to be and remove pairs to breed in cages separately.

Great idea to enhance your sons senses by having the birds for him to hear and experience and touch.

Bear in mind that this can turn to heartache when colony breeding can suddenly go pear shaped and gorgeous babies in nestboxes can be attacked by another female *** bent on taking over a box for herself. She will slaughter chicks in a box to clean it out and use it for herself. Another good reason to have breeding pairs on their own and safer.

...............good to have you here. :)

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OH NO i dont want one of the girls to get territorial and get the bubs (if we get any) can i remove mum and dad the eggs now? The box is drilled into the side so i would have to my hubby to try and get it out and i am sure it wouldnt be gentle. How do i protect them now they are already laid?

OH NO i dont want one of the girls to get territorial and get the bubs (if we get any) can i remove mum and dad the eggs now? The box is drilled into the side so i would have to my hubby to try and get it out and i am sure it wouldnt be gentle. How do i protect them now they are already laid?

You dont move any breeding pairs in the middle of eggs etc. Best is to remove the spare budgies in the aviary to another place.

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