November 28, 201014 yr Congrats Dean, well done on your wins. I don't breed or show yet, I'm still setting up, but your post gives me butterflies. Good going and thanks for posting the pics. Â Matt
November 28, 201014 yr wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean
November 28, 201014 yr wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean  Wow Gb congrats on your 7th place with your lacewing at the UBC shield. That is a great effort because they say you are doing well if you place in the top 20 and extremely well in the top 10.
November 28, 201014 yr wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean  Wow Gb congrats on your 7th place with your lacewing at the UBC shield. That is a great effort because they say you are doing well if you place in the top 20 and extremely well in the top 10.  sorry dean  and thank you splat i was gob smacked i must of seemed like what ever on the day but it wasnt till i got home i relized wow i should be stocked ;)and i am
November 28, 201014 yr An amazing effort Dean to go from a horror season to winning BIS! I did say that once things started to fall in place it would all seem like a distant memory! Â And that dark green is a smasher! And going on the pics I can fully see why they pics him over the dark green - very very nice! Â So many congratulations from me on a well deserved win.
November 29, 201014 yr Author wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean  I am very happy I dare say if my boy was in your UBC show he wouldnt have placed so well and definitely wouldnt have taken out BIS! I know you have some gorgeous birds GB and it is only a matter of time before you get a #1 prize yourself.
November 29, 201014 yr wow thats good as im so happy for you , i still haven't gotten a trophy or ribbon yet my first show i placed very well and my worst result was third took ten birds out of them all ten birds all came home with a placing only one bird was a given as was only one of its type their and then i just got 7th place with my lacewing hen ubc at the ubc shields just gone so im pretty stocked about that no trophy or not i can see my birds are coming along very nicely its great feeling to see you should be sooooooooooooooooo happy with your results dean  I am very happy I dare say if my boy was in your UBC show he wouldnt have placed so well and definitely wouldnt have taken out BIS! I know you have some gorgeous birds GB and it is only a matter of time before you get a #1 prize yourself. thanks dean you would be surprised he may of down well i think he certainly sits fantastic has good backscull and very neat he would of placed well i think yes i will get something oneday at moment im happy to breed my stock hens and work my stud up i only showed the three birds in the shields as they just happen to get out nest and just happened two of got chosen for the team the third one was just fill in it came last as i asumed it would
November 30, 201014 yr Good on you Dean, there really nice birds mate. I'v just bred my first lot of 2011 show birds and hope to enter some in my first show early next year I need to get a breeding journal going lol.
December 17, 201014 yr Author Here are some more pics of this family line, or the beginnings of one! Â Starting with the dark green cock bird that won at the UBC show: Â Â Here is his full blood sister from the same clutch, a cinnamon opaline greygreen (she was still in pin feathers at the time of the show, looks great though! Wish I had been able to take her!): Â Â She looks as though she might moult out a bit flecked, hopefully only lightly or not at all. Here is another from this clutch, a sky blue cock split cinnamon opaline, also too young at the time of the last show: Â Â He is shown there in the second picture with his half-sister (to the same stud cock father, different mother). These two will be paired up at around 8-10 months of age depending on how well they mature. They will be the first of around 10 half-brother sister pairings I am hoping to have arranged after the initial breeding rounds with the stud cock are finished. Here is more of this same hen, a dark green cinnamon opaline: Â Â There are a few other nice siblings, but these are my favourites of the bunch so far (minus a hen that I had to hand raise that looks quite nice). The rest of the cock birds seem to be of lesser quality but im still hopeful they'll produce nicely when paired with half siblings. There are more siblings in the nest and in eggs currently so watch this space... Edited December 17, 201014 yr by Dean_NZ
December 17, 201014 yr Nice head roll on them Dean, backskull too and width across the cere. Length of mask to work on in the future. Well done !!!
December 17, 201014 yr They are really good Dean, love them, they seem to be a strong family, you have done well for someone having a bad year. Pleased for you.
December 17, 201014 yr Author Nice head roll on them Dean, backskull too and width across the cere. Length of mask to work on in the future. Well done !!! Â Yes i was thinking the same thing. Fortunately the breeder who sold me the stud cock has some birds with exceptionally long and wide masks, probably cost a fair whack to get one with such a mask but all I need is one good cock to into a few of the future girls in this line.
December 30, 201014 yr Author Latest chick to fledge, this is a result of pairing the stud cock to a pet type hen (she is full blood sister to the cin op cobalt and cin op sky first shown at the start of this thread) and you can see the family resemblance. Apparently the hen is not a cobalt, she is a sky violet. This would explain why she's only produced sky's and cobalts up till now (no mauves), and in this clutch has produced 4 chicks of which at least 2 are visual violets (possibly another but its young yet). Hoping to put him across some of my show stock blues soon as they are coming into condition and so far have only been putting him to green hens with the exception of this pet type blue. Â This is a SF violet cobalt cinnamon opaline hen, absolutely gorgeous colour. I must admit i didnt expect the heavily diluted violet to be so pretty: Edited December 30, 201014 yr by Dean_NZ
December 30, 201014 yr Oooooooh! I've been waiting to see more updates from your season. Gorgeous! Just plain stunning baby! Â It's quite obvious that the show stock you have got to breed, breed very true to their type. What a wonderful start to your stud! Edited December 30, 201014 yr by nubbly5
December 30, 201014 yr Author Oooooooh! I've been waiting to see more updates from your season. Gorgeous! Just plain stunning baby! Â It's quite obvious that the show stock you have got to breed, breed very true to their type. What a wonderful start to your stud! Â Im pleased with how many of this cocks chicks come out looking like him. Pairing him to the sky violet pet type (which i thought was cobalt) was mainly a test to see whether the chicks would take after him or her. They are somewhere in between, but definitely all benefit from his blood. Of all his offspring, it would be one of these girls that I would consider pairing directly back to their father to produce offspring with 50-100% of his genes, probably an average of 60-75% so there will be less of the pet blood in them. Â The rest will be paired to half siblings which can produce offpsring with anywhere from zero to 100% of his genes, but again the average should be a bit higher than 50% given both parents have 50% of the sires genes. The chicks from such pairings will either be outcrossed or paired back to their grandfather or aunties/uncles and then outcrossed. At least thats the numbers behind it! Chances are i'll be going more by eye than anything and trying to avoid dark x dark and too much green x green as I prefer blues. Â There is another sister who just fledged today, cinnamon opaline sky blue, but she has a much spottier mask than the first cin op sky hen shown at the start of this thread. I think the pet type mother is inhibiting the length of the mask since the cock bird is pretty good in that area, not super long but not short. It will be interesting to see how they compare once they are 8-10 months old. I love having visually identical siblings to compare growth and development with. Pics to come tomorrow...
December 30, 201014 yr Great to read what your plans are and then seeing the results. Keep the updates coming
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