I am having problems in the birdroom, I lost one chick the other day from yellowbelly, but then the next day another died and no yelly belly. and I just lost the youngest 2 from my pied nest and no yellow belly either . Just dead and they all had full crops but they did seem small for their age. Chicks were between 5 and 8 days old.

I also have eggs in 4 nest that should be hatching and they aren't, but they don't look like their dead in shell yet. Meaning they sttll look okay.

I really can't work out what's going on.

Any distinguishing features? Are they very pale?

 

I once lost 5 chicks in the nest, all were healthy and then all died about 5-8 days old. Turns out it was a mouse problem.

Has anything changed ? I mean are you doing anything different than you have before...any changes in any way ? Has any other birds been sick that may be affecting the breeding birds ?

salmonella

and you dont need mice for this to acure

it will get into egg also causeing dis as well as afecting chicks from one to two weeks of age

if eggs are dis and you open and they are smelly rotten looking its that

i garentee it dead chicks fed with no other signs of why all symptoms

run a coarse of your choice of medication to kill it,then clean all cages breeding cabinets and nest boxes and then spray with glen twenty leave to dry then your set to go

any birds with chicks should be transferred to new clean boxes and room

 

 

take a crop sample of next chick that dies or the feeding mum n dad you got a scope take a look i recon you got salmonella

Edited September 12, 201014 yr by GenericBlue

Well went out this morning and one of my hens dead, no sign of any illness she was perfect yesterday dead on the floor of breeding cage today. I think mice.

Lutino hatch egg but chick dead and it was an lutino hen too,, the nest down the botton should of hatched an egg by now as first one was fertile so I took it out and listened and I could hear chick inside but weak so I chipped it open chick was alive but very weak hardly moved at all, I put it in the nest and see what happens, one other nest hatched one and all is good so far.

Any evidence of mice ? have you seen them. What measures have you in place to stop mice ?

How long since the flock was treated with doxy ?

I have mice bait and traps everywhere, I haven't caught or see a mouse for ages but Greg is catching them in the shed so they would be in my breed room. They have all been treat a couple of months ago .I have decided to pull them all out and end my breeding for this year. I think. and constrate on my new birdroom.Just leave the ones with chicks there.I will give them to the end of the week to make up my mind.I don't want to treat them as I can over do it , a few nest had moxi t a few weeks ago and these are the ones I am having problems with. But at the same time it did same heaps of chciks too Because I did have yellow belly.The chciks dead today that just hatched had a dark spot in their belly.UPDATE!!!!That little chick that I chipped out is still alive and wriggling around now so it could still make it

thats a good move darl

i still say salmonella

its more common than people think and hard to diagnose as no real sign of birds having it

thats a good move darl

i still say salmonella

its more common than people think and hard to diagnose as no real sign of birds having it

Very true. Good advice

okay I will treat them for salmonella and see how I go. :rofl: What else can I use instead Of baytril for salmonella because I don't have any and can't afford to buy any at this time.

salmonella and you dont need mice for this to acureit will get into egg also causeing dis as well as afecting chicks from one to two weeks of age if eggs are dis and you open and they are smelly rotten looking its that i garentee it dead chicks fed with no other signs of why all symptoms run a coarse of your choice of medication to kill it,then clean all cages breeding cabinets and nest boxes and then spray with glen twenty leave to dry then your set to go any birds with chicks should be transferred to new clean boxes and room take a crop sample of next chick that dies or the feeding mum n dad you got a scope take a look i recon you got salmonella

i still say salmonellaits more common than people think and hard to diagnose as no real sign of birds having itsorry i got name mixed up they are simular in nature however treatment is diffrent repeate not salmonalla streptococcal page 375 of the rob marshall book the budgerigar has a whole thing on it you simptoms are identical hun take a look okay i said the wrong word splat streptococcus and to treat you need to use amoxycillin tribydrate administered for 7 days after the last egg of a clutch has been layed this should clear up the stretococcal infection in the hen and protect her eggs from contamination i do not know if you ca treat birds with chicks

okay I will treat them for salmonella and see how I go. :rofl: What else can I use instead Of baytril for salmonella because I don't have any and can't afford to buy any at this time.

i dont know what else would treat this but i know glen twenty kills it why i said clean or cabinets out and spray with glen twenty after wards

Loos like the word was wrong eh so streptoccal infection...different meds ?

okay that's Moxy T, I have that

okay that's Moxy T, I have that

Didnt you give the birds that recently anyway ? or was that for something else ?

Yes Kaz I did but only the ones with the yellow belly. I think I will stop breeding and treat all birds.But then I don't think it is this as none of the chicks have yellow belly

Edited September 13, 201014 yr by splat

That little chcik has been fed now so I think it will be okay, I guess I saved it by chipping away the shell, as it was completely ready to come out.

At the club the other night,we were talking about how the hatching is going this year,

it was the general thoughts that the hatch rate was very low,with dead in shell & hatching & not serviveing.more then a day these blokes, have from 25 to 50 pairs down.They think the weather,may be the problem & are hoping the next

round would,one bloke threw out a 100 eges.I myself have not put a pr down as yet,they are not comeing in at all.

Yes Kaz I did but only the ones with the yellow belly. I think I will stop breeding and treat all birds.But then I don't think it is this as none of the chicks have yellow belly

 

not all chicks will show signs of yellow belly or will all nests be affected splat

why it gets missed in flocks

I have worked out that 2 that died from the same nest were ones that hatched earlier, remember the one I found with the hole in it and I helped it and there was blood and so and the other had it's head hanging out but had a fair bit of blood too so I was thinking the hen did that, well they lived for a few days but didn't seem to grow much, they didn't have yellow belly.

I think this other nest the mum is a first time mum.

But then my lutino nest their baby died and didn't look like yellow plus I treated that nest last time, I think she is a **** mum too. I took her eggs off her last time because she gave me warings off a bad mum.

That little chick is still alive but going on the others it will probably die. It's under another hen.

All others are doing great.

2 chicks hatched today and dead, I think that one I chipped and hatched yesterday died too.

Oh and i have a nest with 5 babies and hen is attacking them so I took her out so the dad finishes them off but he is not feeding them, so annoying

Edited September 14, 201014 yr by KAZ

What is up with the breeding this year for some of us. I rarely have trouble and now I am having it in bucket loads lol. Back to the drawing books.

If its any consolation Dean I have had chicks dead in nestboxes too. I have had mothers not feed babies and had to move them all around sometimes more than once. I have had two babies with congenital defects that had to be euthanased. I have had three runts due to mothers not feeding right. I have had DIS eggs. I have had clear eggs that I gave my dogs to eat. I have had hens that scrambled their eggs upon nestchecking. One very good hen found dead on top of her eggs. One paralysed from lack of calcium. two hens eggbound.

What can I say ? lousy season too. Mind you most of the birds I am breeding now are first timers as well

Edited September 14, 201014 yr by KAZ

This year is the pits I have nothing to show next year at all, and the way i am going no purple ringers either

I am really sorry for all three of you.

I have come to accept this as normal when you breed in quantity. Its about percentages.