This is the oldest and youngest chicks from Kramer and Hedwig. The middle chick was in the box at the time. It is exactly like the oldest one who is on the left, only with a pied spot on the back of the head. The youngest one is almost a spitting image of Kramer.

they look real nice

 

Here they are the three amigo's in all their glory, I think they are holding a secret conclave,lol. The one that is a throwback to Kramer bites all the time,lol. We're hoping it's a hen. It's the one on the Far right.

Edited September 12, 201014 yr by tomlou670

 

Here they are the three amigo's in all their glory, I think they are holding a secret conclave,lol. The one that is a throwback to Kramer bites all the time,lol. We're hoping it's a hen. It's the one on the Far right.

 

From left to right it looks like you have a sky blue, a cobalt, and a violet. Do you have any pictures of the cere of the violet one?

 

 

Here is two shots of the violet one. sorry but due to low budget digital camera and a chick determined not to pose, the first one is not so good and the second one is so so.

 

 

Here is two shots of the violet one. sorry but due to low budget digital camera and a chick determined not to pose, the first one is not so good and the second one is so so.

 

I think the first photo looks male, and the second photo looks female, so it's back to the age old question: Do you see any white in real life?

The wife said it is alot paler around the nostrils. All I know is it sure bites like a hen,lol. It bites my hand,my shirt, I took my glasses off to get a better look and it was trying to bite the side piece of it. The other two rarely bite at all,lol. We were pleasantly surprised to have a Kramer throwback lol. We have nicknamed it mini Kramer.

My hunch is that it's a boy. Paler around the nostrils isn't enough to go by, unless there is definite WHITE on the cere. Even though your previous pictures of this one haven't shown the cere very clearly, from what I could see, I was leaning toward boy already. Of course, you will know eventually, if the paleness turns into actual white, or if it grows up and gets a brown cere.

 

"Mini Kramer"! I love it!

Either way it's a keeper. I already said, I am calling the thing Newman when it grows up. Female name, hmmm still working on that. The wife just calls the bird baby. hmmmm female names, Endora comes to mind, rofl.

 

After just putting in fresh seed, the two pictured above took turns kicking out all the seed and then promptly laid down in it. The second time they have done this, mind you :thumbs_up:

 

After just putting in fresh seed, the two pictured above took turns kicking out all the seed and then promptly laid down in it. The second time they have done this, mind you

 

Aw, aren't they cute! They just want to stay babies a little longer. :rofl:

It is not a "pied" spot if it is on a spangle. As I understand, and anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong here, but when the Spangle mutation was first bing developed, a large number of pieds were used. The spot seemed to suffer some sort of transference, and many spangles now have a spot on the back of their heads, although they are not dominant pieds, nor are they split recessive.

Thanks Dave, for the information. The hen is Hedwig found in another thread. She has been indentified as a recessive pied. Kramer is a normal violet from what we know so far. They did throw a normal violet among the three chicks they have. It is the youngest one in the pics, hence why I call it mini Kramer at the moment. The middle chick is the only one out of the three that has that spot. We first thought something was wrong with it lol.