Hey guys. Checked my boxes a couple days ago, and found this chick. I am not sure if it was fed or not, the hen is a maiden. I am just wondering if this poor chick died of hunger, or does it look like yellow bellow (dead as hatchling)

 

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Might have been an early hatching Squeak. Some hens open the eggs and a chick arrives too soon that way with a yellow belly. Can also get a yellow belly a day or so after hatching due to an infection. Yours looks like possibly an early hatching and especially based on what you said about a maiden hen.

 

Plum eyes too.........cinnamon or recessive ?

 

 

Heres a yellow belly photo of mine also an early hatch

Edited September 4, 201014 yr by KAZ

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit.

 

Thanks Kaz, I hope I don't get more in the clutch. It looks like your chick, so I am kind of glad it was yellow belly and not mum ignoring/not feeding chick.

It looks like yellow belly to me, if you loose anymore treat the parents with an broadspectrum antibiotic, I use moxti T.

It looks like yellow belly to me, if you loose anymore treat the parents with an broadspectrum antibiotic, I use moxti T.

Like Splat I use a broad spectrum antibiotic in the water in nests like this just in case. I use Triple C.

Thanks guys. Life is about learning and I will be sure to get some moxti T or Triple C in. I finally got out to the aviary, the hen doesnt have any more chicks but another nest has another dead chick. I haven't taken it out yet, so I don't know if it has yellow belly.

I lost 7 chicks in one week from 3 different nest (yellow belly) so I treated the effected nest with MoxiT and no more died.

Without even seeing Kaz's post I would have said it looks to me like early-hatch type yellow belly. Too soon. I've had that happen in cases where a chick has STARTED pecking the egg, and as soon as it makes the first hole the hen has seen it and started helping the chick out by enlarging the hole, eating the shell and releasing the chick.. Yolk wasnt absorbed - chick had just started pecking out, died soon after. This was a very very reliable hen, super feeder. She was just a bit TOO helpful that time.

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit.

 

T

 

 

Rain or not Squeak...........you should be checking nestboxes morning and night when chicks are due. If this was cabinet breeding you would be checking more often and rain would not have entered into the picture

Edited September 5, 201014 yr by KAZ

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit.

 

T

 

Rain or not Squeak...........you should be checking nestboxes morning and night when chicks are due. If this was cabinet breeding you would be checking more often and rain would not have entered into the picture

 

 

Updates ??

Edited September 5, 201014 yr by KAZ

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit.

 

T

 

Rain or not Squeak...........you should be checking nestboxes morning and night when chicks are due. If this was cabinet breeding you would be checking more often and rain would not have entered into the picture

 

 

Updates ??

 

Sorry kaz, forgot to post. I am sure if you saw our place now though, you would agree. I wore gumboots out there today to check, even then I got wet to the skin. . Has been raining again today, showing no chances of stopping, but I had to check on the birds. But, No more chicks in that nest hatched, but the other nest had one dead chick. It doesnt look like yellow belly, I think it may not have been fed. The other two chicks got there beaks cleaned, and their nails (the hen keeps a very messy nest). I am lucky enough for that aviary not to have water in it, but I waded through a stream to get to it lol.

Thanks guys. Life is about learning and I will be sure to get some moxti T or Triple C in. I finally got out to the aviary, the hen doesnt have any more chicks but another nest has another dead chick. I haven't taken it out yet, so I don't know if it has yellow belly.

as soon as you see a dead chick or a dis you should remove as your leaving a higher risk of oter eggs or hatching's getting contaminated by illness chicks become rotten very fast to leave one in box is just silly you dont know how long it was their in first place and with in few hours it would be rotten inside turning out attract flys extra s-q you need to be fully in this even if its a colant they need same care as cabinets maybe more given the extra watchful eye you need to keep tripple c is great but only medicate if they need it probotic and minerals for a while may be good idea posably mums are not leaving nests to feed so no crop milk to fed new hatched chick spesh if they worryed about other hens around

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit. T

Rain or not Squeak...........you should be checking nestboxes morning and night when chicks are due. If this was cabinet breeding you would be checking more often and rain would not have entered into the picture

Updates ??

Sorry kaz, forgot to post. I am sure if you saw our place now though, you would agree. I wore gumboots out there today to check, even then I got wet to the skin. . Has been raining again today, showing no chances of stopping, but I had to check on the birds. But, No more chicks in that nest hatched, but the other nest had one dead chick. It doesnt look like yellow belly, I think it may not have been fed. The other two chicks got there beaks cleaned, and their nails (the hen keeps a very messy nest). I am lucky enough for that aviary not to have water in it, but I waded through a stream to get to it lol.

just saw this i to wadding throw water and gail wind and lots rain but three in morning to check everyone okay its my responsibility they are safe and not frightened or getting wet flooded extra i brought a brama hat and a dry as a bone its great for these trips leaving me warm and dry

Thanks guys. Life is about learning and I will be sure to get some moxti T or Triple C in. I finally got out to the aviary, the hen doesnt have any more chicks but another nest has another dead chick. I haven't taken it out yet, so I don't know if it has yellow belly.

 

as soon as you see a dead chick or a dis you should remove as your leaving a higher risk of oter eggs or hatching's getting contaminated by illness

chicks become rotten very fast

to leave one in box is just silly you dont know how long it was their in first place and with in few hours it would be rotten inside turning out attract flys extra

s-q you need to be fully in this even if its a colant they need same care as cabinets maybe more given the extra watchful eye you need to keep

tripple c is great

but only medicate if they need it

probotic and minerals for a while may be good idea

posably mums are not leaving nests to feed so no crop milk to fed new hatched chick

spesh if they worryed about other hens around

 

The dead chick was taken out that day, sorry I didn't post. It didn't have yellow belly, and neither did the one this day. I am not sure why the first one died, it had a full crop and was perfectly healthy. It is only the two hens in there, and both chicks have been getting full crops. The nests get checked befroe I go to school and when I come home, plus watching them most the time.

The egg was a day early I think about 17 days. Most my chicks hatch between 18-20 days. Cinnamon or recessive, it would have been cinnamon I think. It was in my colony breeding, I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather. I think I will need to check later on tonight though, rain seems to be holding off a bit.

 

T

 

Rain or not Squeak...........you should be checking nestboxes morning and night when chicks are due. If this was cabinet breeding you would be checking more often and rain would not have entered into the picture

 

 

Updates ??

 

Sorry kaz, forgot to post. I am sure if you saw our place now though, you would agree. I wore gumboots out there today to check, even then I got wet to the skin. . Has been raining again today, showing no chances of stopping, but I had to check on the birds. But, No more chicks in that nest hatched, but the other nest had one dead chick. It doesnt look like yellow belly, I think it may not have been fed. The other two chicks got there beaks cleaned, and their nails (the hen keeps a very messy nest). I am lucky enough for that aviary not to have water in it, but I waded through a stream to get to it lol.

 

 

okay im just going to shut up as you always change your mind

before you said chick was not fed now you say they both were

also said no more new chick

but now this is diffrent chick that looked like it died from no food but had full crop

im only trying to grasp things to help you

if you do have chicks left in over night i dont really care

but im just trying to explain what damage this can cause

also if chicks dieing but are feed then mabe mums both gone out condition

'it happened to me recently

i let birds do second round but they were starting to molt and being in nest i didnt notice i lost chicks myself 7 of them i save rest as soon as they hatched i put under fosters then took mum n dad out and left them in a resting cage with extra vits and mins

for few weeks

so not picking just want to help you

It seems you have chicks that died from not being fed but then you said had full crops. This is sometimes called " covering your a$$ " as you would not want to appear inadequate in any way. BUT I am going to say what I will and come what may.................

 

I have said many times regarding colony breeding and how I feel about it.

 

I dont think you should have put any pairs down to colony breeding unless you were at home 24/7.

 

You say you check morning and night, but you have already said the opposite of that

 

 

I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather

 

and

 

the other nest had one dead chick. It doesnt look like yellow belly, I think it may not have been fed.

 

and

I am not sure why the first one died, it had a full crop and was perfectly healthy.

 

 

Now................in colony breeding sometimes other birds will stop a mother or father from going to their own nest to feed their chicks. This results in dead chicks, whether its not being fed or being cold because the parents are stopped from returning to the nest and keeping their chicks warm at night.

 

I suggest if you want to colony breed you must be home all day to watch and care for them and circumvent any things that go wrong.

You go to school and maybe just maybe check morning and night ( although you have admitted to not doing that due to weather ? or busy ? )

 

You defend colony breeding but you have not gone the extra steps to protect the heirarchy in there and to check more often once you had chicks.

 

It seems you have chicks that died from not being fed but then you said had full crops. This is sometimes called " covering your a$$ " as you would not want to appear inadequate in any way. BUT I am going to say what I will and come what may.................

 

I have said many times regarding colony breeding and how I feel about it.

 

I dont think you should have put any pairs down to colony breeding unless you were at home 24/7.

 

You say you check morning and night, but you have already said the opposite of that

 

 

I havent been out in a few days to look in the boxes as it is revolting weather

 

and

 

the other nest had one dead chick. It doesnt look like yellow belly, I think it may not have been fed.

 

and

I am not sure why the first one died, it had a full crop and was perfectly healthy.

 

 

Now................in colony breeding sometimes other birds will stop a mother or father from going to their own nest to feed their chicks. This results in dead chicks, whether its not being fed or being cold because the parents are stopped from returning to the nest and keeping their chicks warm at night.

 

I suggest if you want to colony breed you must be home all day to watch and care for them and circumvent any things that go wrong.

You go to school and maybe just maybe check morning and night ( although you have admitted to not doing that due to weather ? or busy ? )

 

You defend colony breeding but you have not gone the extra steps to protect the heirarchy in there and to check more often once you had chicks.

 

 

im sorry but i have to back you up here kaz one hundred percent

but saying that i still only want to help you work out why chicks dieing

you say i only have two pairs but thats one more than their should be

all birds could be not feeding well as they to scarred to leave nest which ive said many times

also

you said you took chick out yet otherday you said you left chick in didnt take it out as yet

i think as kaz does your **** covering to try look responsible

honesty is best policy mate to be honest about our mistakes and mis haps we learn from them

to cover our mistakes to me says we do not listen we just let it travel in one ear out the other i know best kind of altitude

hey i am not perfict **** i am far from

but i listen and take aboard what im told and if i look stupid or dumb while im learning well

so what as i know better now and its me whom needs to care not others

so learn

admit and learn double as if you cover we can not help to true potential

Which one of your aviaries got wet ?

 

 

Have you started them on coccivet ?

The closest brown one. Only near the door got wet. I have started the birds on coccivet of 15ml to 10L for 5 days.