Hi guys

I have recently pulled a hen from my breeding colony because she has come down with scaley face mites. She was fine at the start, but has progressed and now has quite harsh scaley on her vent. I have taken her and her partner out, and transferred her 4 fertile eggs into another nest. This would normally be fine, but I have an issue.

 

My normal scaley treatment broke a couple weeks ago, and I had to throw it out (it was one you apply). I am expecting some new stuff soon, from a breeder at my club. He gets prescriptions from his vet, and he offered to give me some ( one you put in water). But he can't get any until the start of next month.

 

So I am left with a hen with scaley and no medicine availible for the next week and a bit. Is there any home remedies or things I can get from the supermarket to help until I get new stuff?

 

Couldnt get a focused picture of beak, she bites like a b****.

 

It looks worse in the picture, of the beak. Her vent is about what it looks like in picture. She has it VERY minor on legs also.

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by KAZ

Rub Vaseline over all the affected areas every second day for 10 days this will suffocate the mite and the scale will drop off. Or you can use Aloe Vera leaf {the juice thereof] but its best prepared as a spray. Cheers Clearwing

I think we have aloe vera spray, we use it for sunburn. Which one would be better?

 

Also, anyone know if rawleighs would be okay? It is used for:

* head and chest cold congestion

* catarrh

* croup

* cuts

* burns

* sores

* bruises

* earache

* headache

* muscular pain

* chapped hands, lips

* scratches

* psoriasis

* eczema.

 

Active Ingredients: Camphor, Menthol and Oil of Eucalyptus.

or you could use cotton bud to put on some paraffin oil it also smuthers the mite and soffens crust

 

that hens had that for some time its not something that happens over night

this shows that colony breed birds are not looked after to extent they should be

regardless of what people say

your hens and cocks should of been looked over before putting in any boxes for any issues they may of had

lots more than scaly might can be wrong

you obviously did not check birds before breeding commenced or this hen would not be so bad

you better get some ivomectom and start exemaning birds as you would if cage breeding

and do whole flock with treatment as they will all have it maybe just not as bad or visual

and rub the paraffin oil over the perching also in the flight to smother the scaly mite thats in the wood

This hen was checked before breeding, as all birds were. She begun to develop very minor around her beak. The pictures do make it look worse, and I think the skin is also irritated because of mating and her beginning to line her nest (plucking feathers) , which is why I took the cock bird out also.

 

Each bird was taken out and checked over, and I gave them my normal breeding prep for about 2-3 weeks before. At the end of the period, she was showing very small scaley on her beak, I didn't even think it was scaley, it just looked a little crusty. I thought it was okay, as I have had birds that get this and it goes away within a week , with me only putting one dose on it, sometimes none. She didn't look like she had scaley, so I just looked over it, and wrote in my notepad to keep an eye on her. I rarley get to see the birds when they nest, and even when they are out, I check them. I suppose because I naturally don't get a look at their vent I didn't notice. I only noticed it yesterday when she went in the box, she flashed me. They have only been breeding for 2 and a half weeks.

 

Like I said, the photo's are making it look worse. This could have developed for the past week, without me knowing until yesterday. I was going to do all of my flocks when I get the treatment, I still will. Until then though, this hen needs some help.

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by KAZ

Looks nasty I don't have much experience but GB's advice sounds good. I hope she makes a full recovery for you S_C.

I have used rawleighs as well and it also would be fine, the idea is to suffocate the mite. Cheers Clearwing

Looks nasty :fear I don't have much experience but GB's advice sounds good. I hope she makes a full recovery for you S_C.

Thanks rachelm

I have used rawleighs as well and it also would be fine, the idea is to suffocate the mite. Cheers Clearwing

okay, We have a bit of that so I will use that. Cheers :)I put some Rawleighs (blue one) on her, and I also heated it up and added a little bit of water, and dripped it around her beak and vent. I was thinking it was a little to much diluted, so I tried some ( not reccomended ) and I can tell you now it wasn't too diluted.

Hey S_C you might want to do her legs to, in your photo her legs look a bit scabby also.

Hey S_C you might want to do her legs to, in your photo her legs look a bit scabby also.

 

Yup I did them too :fear I think I will clip her legs feathers a little, she mainly got it in her feathers

Hey S_C you might want to do her legs to, in your photo her legs look a bit scabby also.

 

Yup I did them too :fear I think I will clip her legs feathers a little, she mainly got it in her feathers

Feather mites?

Hey S_C you might want to do her legs to, in your photo her legs look a bit scabby also.

 

Yup I did them too I think I will clip her legs feathers a little, she mainly got it in her feathers

Feather mites?

 

No I meant she mainly got the Rawleighs on her feathers, I was having trouble finding her skin under it all :fear

Hey S_C you might want to do her legs to, in your photo her legs look a bit scabby also.

 

Yup I did them too I think I will clip her legs feathers a little, she mainly got it in her feathers :fear

Feather mites?

 

No I meant she mainly got the Rawleighs on her feathers, I was having trouble finding her skin under it all

Blonde moment

Hi guys

I have recently pulled a hen from my breeding colony because she has come down with scaley face mites. She was fine at the start, but has progressed and now has quite harsh scaley on her vent. I have taken her and her partner out, and transferred her 4 fertile eggs into another nest. This would normally be fine, but I have an issue.

 

My normal scaley treatment broke a couple weeks ago, and I had to throw it out (it was one you apply). I am expecting some new stuff soon, from a breeder at my club. He gets prescriptions from his vet, and he offered to give me some ( one you put in water). But he can't get any until the start of next month.

 

So I am left with a hen with scaley and no medicine availible for the next week and a bit. Is there any home remedies or things I can get from the supermarket to help until I get new stuff?

 

Couldnt get a focused picture of beak, she bites like a b****.

 

It looks worse in the picture, of the beak. Her vent is about what it looks like in picture. She has it VERY minor on legs also.

Sorry to say I agree with GB and this isnt just a case of early scaly or just a week or two. This was scalyface established before they were put down to breed. Fact is you just missed seeing the signs or treating before breeding.

okay, so it has been established I made a mistake. So if I did miss something, everyone does. I probably forgot to check vent, so now it will make me extra careful.

 

I hope I will be able to continue to post a progress report, and thankyou for the help everyone has offered

s-c im not being nasty im not pointing a big fat finger and saying

you dont care for your birds

im just saying scaly might that advanced does take a good few months

 

i myself missed a small case of it on some of the birds i sent to members here when i was doing cull bird thing

i too did not look for it

i checked birds for all else but that

but thats as my birds are continuously treated 3months to the day they last get the ivomectom

all chicks at 2 weeks and second week out nest and then all breeders before breeding commences but as they were not mine i over looked that others arrnt so vigilent

so im not having a go but i am saying you need to maybe take a bit more time to go into flight and look over birds

colony breed birds need chicks checked too

and hens need to be seen daily so you know their alive

so the comment you made saying you hardly get to view her is just supporting the fact you need to spend more attention to them

go for you picking it up

and great for hunting out advice and doing something about it

and removing cock as so no fights break out as harmony in flight changed

all

great things you did

please i may sound harsh but im trying to make you more aware to the fact that this was as you said a possibility so you should have treated as a precaution when you first thought m looks suss

darl

you do good but you need to exel when breeding or you may let other more worse things slip by

if you dont follow through with first thoughts

if you had of treated back then she would not have gotten this bad

and mate picture shows how advanced it is its not just making it look worse

(unless she just ate chocky cake but i doubt that )

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by GenericBlue

Scalyface can be missed and does get missed especially when birds are in the aviary.

s-c im not being nasty im not pointing a big fat finger and saying

you dont care for your birds

im just saying scaly might that advanced does take a good few months

 

i myself missed a small case of it on some of the birds i sent to members here when i was doing cull bird thing

i too did not look for it

i checked birds for all else but that

but thats as my birds are continuously treated 3months to the day they last get the ivomectom

all chicks at 2 weeks and second week out nest and then all breeders before breeding commences

so im not having a go but i am saying you need to maybe take a bit more time to go into flight and look over birds

colony breed birds need chicks checked too

and hens need to be seen daily so you know their alive

so the comment you made saying you hardly get to view her is just supporting the fact you need to spend more attention to them

go for you picking it up

and great for hunting out advice and doing something about it

and removing cock as so no fights break out as harmony in flight changed

all

great things you did

please i may sound harsh but im trying to make you more aware to the fact that this was as you said a possibility so you should have treated as a precaution when you first thought m looks suss

darl

you do good but you need to exel when breeding or you may let other more worse things slip by

if you dont follow through with first thoughts

if you had of treated back then she would not have gotten this bad

and mate picture shows how advanced it is its not just making it look worse

(unless she just ate chocky cake :fear but i doubt that )

 

I am sorry I sounded harsh also But I am really serious when I say I did check the birds before the boxes went in. All the birds are wormed, and if I had my medicince I probably would have treated the hen, and it would have been gone in a week. it is just **** luck that when I don't have medicince it develops.

 

I really don't think it has been months, maybe 3 weeks approx. I am not making excuses, but I do take good care of my birds, and they are wormed and treated with doxy etc. So I am a little miffed that they appeared. **** my life. The pictures may be true, and she does have the scaley on her face, I don't know about you guys, but it is showing up really dark on my moniter, but it is lighter and not so stained in real life.

 

You also said yourself that birds feel more pressured to stay on the nest when colony breeding. I do see the hen, but mostly just poking her head out to check mate is there, or get a quick feed. That is why I have just looked over (which I know is bad) the face, because I really only properly noticed it a couple days ago, and I knew I was getting my new meds soon. It was only when i saw her going back into the nest I saw her vent.

 

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by Squeak_Crumble

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

 

If she was incubating and with 5 fertile eggs she most likely was, the longest she should be off her eggs is 20-30 mins, so if its been longer the eggs may be chilled. Have you a hen with eggs at the same stage to transfer them to ? How long has she been off the eggs ?

Hi guys

I have recently pulled a hen from my breeding colony because she has come down with scaley face mites. She was fine at the start, but has progressed and now has quite harsh scaley on her vent. I have taken her and her partner out, and transferred her 4 fertile eggs into another nest. This would normally be fine, but I have an issue.

 

 

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

 

If she was incubating and with 5 fertile eggs she most likely was, the longest she should be off her eggs is 20-30 mins, so if its been longer the eggs may be chilled. Have you a hen with eggs at the same stage to transfer them to ? How long has she been off the eggs ?

 

 

She is a very fertile hen, I can't wait to try her with a different cock. YF Blue Opaline Spangle/Cinnamon, gorgeous bird, father of her current mate (DF Spangle YF)

Hi guys

I have recently pulled a hen from my breeding colony because she has come down with scaley face mites. She was fine at the start, but has progressed and now has quite harsh scaley on her vent. I have taken her and her partner out, and transferred her 4 fertile eggs into another nest. This would normally be fine, but I have an issue.

 

 

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

 

If she was incubating and with 5 fertile eggs she most likely was, the longest she should be off her eggs is 20-30 mins, so if its been longer the eggs may be chilled. Have you a hen with eggs at the same stage to transfer them to ? How long has she been off the eggs ?

 

 

She is a very fertile hen, I can't wait to try her with a different cock. YF Blue Opaline Spangle/Cinnamon, gorgeous bird, father of her current mate (DF Spangle YF)

 

You didnt answer my question

Hi guys

I have recently pulled a hen from my breeding colony because she has come down with scaley face mites. She was fine at the start, but has progressed and now has quite harsh scaley on her vent. I have taken her and her partner out, and transferred her 4 fertile eggs into another nest. This would normally be fine, but I have an issue.

 

 

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

 

If she was incubating and with 5 fertile eggs she most likely was, the longest she should be off her eggs is 20-30 mins, so if its been longer the eggs may be chilled. Have you a hen with eggs at the same stage to transfer them to ? How long has she been off the eggs ?

 

 

She is a very fertile hen, I can't wait to try her with a different cock. YF Blue Opaline Spangle/Cinnamon, gorgeous bird, father of her current mate (DF Spangle YF)

 

You didnt answer my question

 

I did. Just didn't make it heeps notable. Sorry, my bad.

 

It is in bold. (as it was in the above one) and I made it bigger

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by Squeak_Crumble

s-c im not being nasty im not pointing a big fat finger and saying

you dont care for your birds

im just saying scaly might that advanced does take a good few months

 

i myself missed a small case of it on some of the birds i sent to members here when i was doing cull bird thing

i too did not look for it

i checked birds for all else but that

but thats as my birds are continuously treated 3months to the day they last get the ivomectom

all chicks at 2 weeks and second week out nest and then all breeders before breeding commences

so im not having a go but i am saying you need to maybe take a bit more time to go into flight and look over birds

colony breed birds need chicks checked too

and hens need to be seen daily so you know their alive

so the comment you made saying you hardly get to view her is just supporting the fact you need to spend more attention to them

go for you picking it up

and great for hunting out advice and doing something about it

and removing cock as so no fights break out as harmony in flight changed

all

great things you did

please i may sound harsh but im trying to make you more aware to the fact that this was as you said a possibility so you should have treated as a precaution when you first thought m looks suss

darl

you do good but you need to exel when breeding or you may let other more worse things slip by

if you dont follow through with first thoughts

if you had of treated back then she would not have gotten this bad

and mate picture shows how advanced it is its not just making it look worse

(unless she just ate chocky cake but i doubt that )

 

I am sorry I sounded harsh also But I am really serious when I say I did check the birds before the boxes went in. All the birds are wormed, and if I had my medicince I probably would have treated the hen, and it would have been gone in a week. it is just **** luck that when I don't have medicince it develops.

 

I really don't think it has been months, maybe 3 months approx. I am not making excuses, but I do take good care of my birds, and they are wormed and treated with doxy etc. So I am a little miffed that they appeared. **** my life. The pictures may be true, and she does have the scaley on her face, I don't know about you guys, but it is showing up really dark on my moniter, but it is lighter and not so stained in real life.

 

You also said yourself that birds feel more pressured to stay on the nest when colony breeding. I do see the hen, but mostly just poking her head out to check mate is there, or get a quick feed. That is why I have just looked over (which I know is bad) the face, because I really only properly noticed it a couple days ago, and I knew I was getting my new meds soon. It was only when i saw her going back into the nest I saw her vent.

 

I feel bad, she was on 5 fertile eggs and she put a nail through one when I grabbed her from the nest She is sure to lay mor eggs in the holding cage, I can only hope they don't chill before I can get to them and put them in a nest. She has laid 11 eggs before, all fertile.

 

 

why did you grab her from nest you should have gently coaxed her out by tapping on door first

m okay im just going to shut up now as other wize im going to look like im picking

but i do think you need to think things through before you do them

also three months is a long time

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by KAZ

that was meant to be weeks.She also wouldnt get out of nest, I lowered the nest and put on the floor. I opened the lid, (this was after I tapped for a bit, she just screeched) and backed away. I exited the aviary and she just stayed on the nest. I tried shutting the lid, and she still wouldnt come out. Finally I just put the box back (this was all yesterday) and I went out there today when she was out, she just bolted for her nest.I didnt snatch or grab her, I just opened the lid and nudged her with the flat of my hand (so she couldnt bite) and she finally got off, and as she came out of the door I netted her.

why did you grab her from nest you should have gently coaxed her out by tapping on door first m okay im just going to shut up now as other wize im going to look like im picking but i do think you need to think things through before you do them also three months is a long time

And no, you aren't being picky. I value the advice of people on here above anything.

Edited August 22, 201014 yr by KAZ