I was just entering the birds onto the budgie program and sorry to pester you again but what kind of blue would you say they both are??? like colbet, Sky ext.

lol i have a question. Be honest what do you think of the secong bird looks wise??

BHAHAHA funny No i meant do you think they are good looking birds lol?? a score out of ten of something lol :rofl:

I was just entering the birds onto the budgie program and sorry to pester you again but what kind of blue would you say they both are??? like colbet, Sky ext.

They look to be YF type 2 cobalt spangles to me.

Edited August 15, 201014 yr by KAZ

the second one is also opaline spangle why wings look diffrent

as far as looks go for pet breed birds they are prettygood in size

 

nice colours

Also what would you call these two:

 

 

Try again jack with no flash used on your camera

And this male.

 

 

the second one is also opaline spangle why wings look diffrent

as far as looks go for pet breed birds they are prettygood in size

 

nice colours

 

 

I thought he looked opaline, as well, but he didn't appear to have a clear mantle, so I wasn't sure.

Also, is there any possiblilty that he could be a clearwing spangle?

 

Hey, Jack, looks-wise, I think he's very pretty. But, like Kaz, I also think he looks wise!

What is a clearwing spangle?

What is a clearwing spangle?

Dont worry about that Jack. He isnt a clearwing spangle. A lot of people, when they see very few markings or light markings on spangles automatically use the clearwing phrase in association with spangles.

Edited August 19, 201014 yr by KAZ

I was going to say spangle, but It is also clearwing or greywing. I have a normal spangle, and he looks different to this. I thik of spangle as reversing the pattern on wings ( eg. black with white ring ----> white with black ring)

 

By adding in greywing/clearwing, this gives you a white with a grey coloured feather. If it was cinnamon for example, it would be white with cinnamon fringe.

 

There is NO reversal of the markings on the wings in Spangles! Why do people keep clinging onto this perception? The marking effect is produced by the elimination of the melanin in the inside portion of the feather leaving an outline similar to some Opalines. With Spangle though the tail and flight feathers are affected whereas in Opalines it is not except for the wing stripe and upper portion of the priamary tail feathers.

 

The affect on some Spangles appearing to look like greywing or even clearwing can sometimes be caused by either a bird in baby feather or the fact that the melanin quanity in that particular feather is just not in a high enough quanity to allow the marking to be exhibited in a darker form. Spangle can vary a great deal in the intensity of the markings.

Edited August 19, 201014 yr by KAZ

Question. Are there any articals ext. on identifying budgie mutations.. I am only 14 so a may as well start learning young lol

This website is okay http://www.budgieplace.com/colorsguide.html also this onehttp://www.officialbarrieshuttbudgerigars....rsmutations.htm

Before posting links elsewhere try looking at the wealth of info already here at BBC forum

 

 

We do have a wealth of information here, but do we have a page that explains it all in beginner's terms? I started to look for a link to paste here, but it looks like everything is separated into many different articles.

 

As for the link to the Budgie Place, that is where I learned the mutations, before I even knew about BBC. "Easy Peasy" is a very accurate description!

 

 

I agree with Kaz here. Look around on this forum first there are a lot of post and FAQ's.

 

The budgie place although is for the most part pretty good on it's content it does have some anomilies. Yellowface being one. The fact that the author has reference Peter Bergman as a scource of more info as the 'budgie place' provides very little tells me the author is not fully understanding of this variety. It is stated that their are only two yellowfaces a Type 1 and Type 2 (terms that should be discontinued) which the author seems to describe as a single factor and a double factor form respectively. In fact there are three forms of Yellowface with each one in a single or double format.

 

Jack your last photos of the yellowface spangles are in fact single factor Goldenface Spangle Cobalts withe the second one being Opaline as well by the look of those photos.

Edited August 19, 201014 yr by RIPbudgies