Hi here are a few of my birds could you guys please help with the mutations. I not worried about splits ext as i dont know the parents.

 

 

 

 

 

Cute birds. I just worked out to click photo for bigger view .

1 - Double Factor spangle male

2 - sky blue spangle

3 - sky blue spangle (same bird?)

4 - grey-green normal

5 - grey-green normal (same bird?)

Yes i have 5 pictures but there are only 3 different birdsBy The Way with the first bird what does double factor mean?

Double Factor, or DF, means it received two of the same gene from the parents, in this case a spangle gene from each parent, so therefore it is a DF spangle. Often the DF of a gene can change the appearance. A DF spangle appears to only have the body colour, either yellow or white, but sometimes there appears slight blue or green patches. A DF dominant pied has very limited pied markings.

 

You have a DF spangle

Question. Are there any articals ext. on identifying budgie mutations.. I am only 14 so a may as well start learning young lol

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Edited August 1, 201014 yr by rachelm

Umm with the blue bird. The stipes on her wings are actually grey or pale black i guess. the picture is no very good.. Does this change what you said??

Question. Are there any articals ext. on identifying budgie mutations.. I am only 14 so a may as well start learning young lol

This website is okay http://www.budgieplace.com/colorsguide.html also this onehttp://www.officialbarrieshuttbudgerigars....rsmutations.htm

Before posting links elsewhere try looking at the wealth of info already here at BBC forum

Umm with the blue bird. The stipes on her wings are actually grey or pale black i guess. the picture is no very good.. Does this change what you said??

Post a better picture for us to see

yes a better picture is needed, it could just be poor markings or the fact that the bird is still young and so still has the pale tones of baby feathers.

The first link that rachelm posted was very good, I learnt from that and I am only 13 Easy peasy.

 

As mentioned already, better pictures would be helpful

Question. Are there any articals ext. on identifying budgie mutations.. I am only 14 so a may as well start learning young lol

This website is okay http://www.budgieplace.com/colorsguide.html also this onehttp://www.officialbarrieshuttbudgerigars....rsmutations.htm

Before posting links elsewhere try looking at the wealth of info already here at BBC forum

 

 

We do have a wealth of information here, but do we have a page that explains it all in beginner's terms? I started to look for a link to paste here, but it looks like everything is separated into many different articles.

 

As for the link to the Budgie Place, that is where I learned the mutations, before I even knew about BBC. "Easy Peasy" is a very accurate description!

Here is another bertter picture of the 2nd bird in question.

I can't see a picture?

sorry..

 

I think maybe greywing?

sorry..

 

 

It kind of looks like it might be a greywing spangle, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a normal spangle. Gosh, sorry to be so helpful!

 

The markings on the very tips of the primary flight feathers look darker than the rest. Maybe after it moults out, it will be a clearer difference.

I was going to say spangle, but It is also clearwing or greywing. I have a normal spangle, and he looks different to this. I thik of spangle as reversing the pattern on wings ( eg. black with white ring ----> white with black ring)

 

By adding in greywing/clearwing, this gives you a white with a grey coloured feather. If it was cinnamon for example, it would be white with cinnamon fringe.

Yep just looking at the brid in person i am agreeing with squeek greywing/clearwing

 

I have two more birds i would like you guys to figure out for me aswell:

 

 

 

Also any idea on sex?

 

And this male.

 

Do the experts have any ideas?

By adding in greywing/clearwing, this gives you a white with a grey coloured feather. If it was cinnamon for example, it would be white with cinnamon fringe.

 

Greywing/clearwing ? do you mean greywing or clearwing because the way you have written it looks as we would write greywing split clearwing which it wouldnt be.

 

Yep just looking at the brid in person i am agreeing with squeek greywing/clearwingI have two more birds i would like you guys to figure out for me aswell:

 

 

 

 

Also any idea on sex?

YF blue spangle COCK

 

And this male.

 

 

 

and again YF blue spangle cock

Edited August 15, 201014 yr by KAZ

The birds have completly different wings?? DOnt they? So the second one is still called blue even though it has the green chest? Thanks.

The birds have completly different wings?? DOnt they? So the second one is still called blue even though it has the green chest? Thanks.

The second one is older and the yellow colour bleeds into the blue creating that green look. The baby one will look the same as the older one when it has moulted and is older too.

lol i have a question. Be honest what do you think of the secong bird looks wise??

The birds have completly different wings?? DOnt they? So the second one is still called blue even though it has the green chest? Thanks.

They are both spangles. Second one is a YF blue spangle even though it looks greenish .......yes

lol i have a question. Be honest what do you think of the secong bird looks wise??

Looks wise ? maybe :rofl: Will you call him the professor