I have just got some now budgies it would be awesome if someone could help me with finding out the sexes.

Come on guys you must have some ideas??

Edited July 12, 201015 yr by Dave_McMinn
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In my opinion I would say the first three are cocks and the last two are Hens. Could you post pics with better lighting if at all possible?? It is still a little difficult.

Thanks Jodie

Edited July 11, 201015 yr by Jodie

They all look male to me.

They all look male to me.

 

 

I agree, all male

You 100% sure i really needed some females?

You 100% sure i really needed some females?

 

 

The only one I think there is any doubt about is the second to last one, the one that looks violet. Because of the bright light on one side, and shadow on the other side, it's hard to tell for sure. Maybe a different picture with more even lighting would show it up better. If you're hoping it's a hen, you need to decide if the cere has any whitness on it.

 

Since these look like very young birds, you have plenty of time to buy hens for them while you wait for them to grow up. (And you will have to wait for the hens to grow up, too, unless you can find a breeder to sell you some adults. )

 

PS I just noticed that the 3rd one looks like he has scaly face!

Edited July 12, 201015 yr by Finnie

So when sexing young birds you just need to look for whitness amoungst the pink cere..?Is there a way to treat scaley face.. I have herd of using patroliem jelly but does this really work..?

I am not good at sexing young chicks, but it looks like there is quite a bit of testosterone there. All male i think.

So when sexing young birds you just need to look for whitness amoungst the pink cere..?Is there a way to treat scaley face.. I have herd of using patroliem jelly but does this really work..?

My birds had scaley face when i bought them. I used Invomec (invomectin), it also kills all intestinal worms and external mites and lice. I've read that petroleum jelly does work, it suffocates the mites but the mites can infest the vent and the legs, which would be hard to treat with petroleum jelly. Also if this bird has contact with all your other birds, you will have to treat them also because scaley face is highly contagious. It spreads through shared food dishes etc.

Edited July 12, 201015 yr by rachelm

The first three appear to be cocks. The fourth one is a little hard to tell for sure. The last one looks like hen.

 

Scaley face is caused by a mite (Knemidokoptic pilae) and as already mentioned is contagious with some birds being more susceptable than others. One of the cheapest and easily obtained cures around is vegatable oil. Every body usually has it in there kitchen. It works simply by filling the tunnels formed by the burrowing activties of the mite thereby suffocating them. Make sure the oil is applied to the skin around the eyes, beak, cere and don't forget the feet. Application can be done with a small artists paint brush or a cotton bud.

Has vegtable oil worked for you??It is a good thing that i seperated him as soon as i got him then!! I could tell something was amiss..Does anyone else agree with the last one being female??

I think the last is a hen, possibly second to last also.

I was just out there then and damn they certainly bite harder... One question however i trying to get my head round the cere thing what makes you say the last two are females? And RIP budgies what makes you say the last one is a hen?

You can see how hens have a paler cere, or it has white rings around the nostrils.

 

You can see how the white bird has quite a solid pink colour, that is a male:

 

Compared to a hen, which is quite pale and white:

I get it! Any the last picture of yours matches the 3rd and last last picture of mine almost the same bird to. lol thanks. But what about the 2nd last one?

Has vegtable oil worked for you??It is a good thing that i seperated him as soon as i got him then!! I could tell something was amiss..Does anyone else agree with the last one being female??

 

I have used veggie oil lots of times with no problems and yes it works fine. Apply once a day. Parrafin oil can also be used but it can 'scold' and cause feather loss. Patroleum Jelly can be used also. Vaseline is favoured by some people but prefer people use Petroleum Jelly as Vaseline is the same thing only it has other chemicals added where as the Petroleum Jelly is pure, but remember it is a petroleum based product so I don't recommend its use unless really necessary.

 

As for the last photo. Baby birds have cere colours ranging from black, bluish and pink. Most baby males show pink and blackish and where as hens show bluish and blackish. This is an average so there are allways exceptions to the rule. Size, shape and texture of the cere also plays a part. Generally with babies texture is not an issue as it is new growth and not yet formed any horney keratineous layers (usually in hens). Male ceres are generally smallish and bulbous where as hens tend to be larger and flatter. But again I have seen some males with quite large ceres but they were most definately pink. Again, exceptions to the rule.

 

Another way to tell sex is by palpation of the pelvic bones but this is not 100% certain in young birds. In cocks the space is extremely narrow where as in hens the space will be wider. Variations exist in different family lines.

 

Another way of telling but certainly not accurate is comparing siblings. Hens tend to be flatter in the head than cocks but this again is not accurate as in show birds especially there are those hens referred to as 'cock headed'.

 

Last but not least is attitude. Again not accurate but rather a guide. Hens tend to be more nippy, usually bite harder and tend to hang on.

 

Over time you will get the hang of it.

Please accept my apologies for being a pain in the neck here, but I'd like to pick this apart a bit further.

 

I know people talk about "white rings around the nostrils". I'm sure that term will never go away, because so many hens do have white rings. But many cocks also have rings around their nostrils, too. (They just don't usually look white, but rather a paler version of the rest of the cere.) And, really, the white on a hen's cere is not just around the nostrils. It goes a lot further than that.

 

I've had some of my cocks, who have really, really blue ceres (and who have fathered clutches) sometimes look as though they have pale blue rings around their nostrils. At the same time, the bottom half of their ceres was a deep purpley-blue.

 

I've had other cocks with really even pink toned ceres, occasionally go pale around the nostrils when they are stressed. One even has pale rings 24/7. These last examples are about a year old, now, and they have never gotten a brown hen cere. I'm sure they are males.

 

In the following photo, I can see rings. But they look like "pale pink" rings to me, and the main part of the cere doesn't look to have any white at all, except on the side where the whole thing is washed out with light. That's why I think we need a better photo.

 

 

 

 

Now, RIP, you said this next one looks hen-like to you. On my monitor, the whole picture looks a little greenish, so maybe you and I are seeing different colors.

To me, it looks like a very blue cere with pale blue rings around the nostrils. Maybe a picture with true to life colors would clear this one up, too.

 

 

And Squeak_Crumble, I'm sorry, but I think the only reason this one seems to have white is because the light is so bright. The majority of that whole cere is so purpley-blue, that I just can't see hen at all.

 

 

So, Jack, do you think you could get more pictures of the last two in question? There have been a lot of times that as soon as a new picture is posted, it clears everything up and we all agree on what it is. Try to aim for even lighting, so nothing is washed out.

Which Birds Would you like pictures of??I was in the breeding room this avo and have noitced theat the second last bird in question has been very well cuddely with one i know is male?? Does this mean anything but?

 

 

 

take birds into the sun in a cage and take shots or inside and near window and hold in sun light no flash

if you ask me theirs one hen but untill i see new pics im hush

first two are young males

 

third is an older male which needs to be treated for scaley face as there are symptoms on both beak and feet.

 

foruth A bit hard to tell as the photo is fuzzy but it looks pink enough for me to say male.

 

five - the colour on this picture is a bit off but with the blue tone of the cere and the fact the throat spots appear to be baby feathers (young bird not yet had it's first moult) i would say female.