okay, so looking at a white based (grey or blue) cinnamon opaline OR a rec. pied opaline cinnamon white based?

okay, so looking at a white based (grey or blue) cinnamon opaline OR a rec. pied opaline cinnamon white based?

NO. the white down indicates opaline not future feather colour. BUT if the pin feathers are white then you would be right

Edited August 14, 201015 yr by KAZ

First Chick arrived :sad:

 

She ended up having 7 eggs in nest,1 fertile. I removed all her clear's and all clears of another pair , and the other pair have 3 fertile eggs, so I moved them into her nest (so she was sitting on 4 fertile eggs) and I let the albino pair go for another round.

 

The other pair the 3 fertile eggs were taken from was an albino hen to yf grey split albino cock. The chick has black eyes, so I assuming that it is the grey-green and spangles chick.

okay you wrote this so

when were the /albino yf boy and the albino hens three due or do you not keep record of that ?

also i suggest when you find out whos chicks are whos you work out exactly what you albino hen is masking its very very helpful to know

another thing why would you be thinking rec pied

do you have any history on your birds ??? if not can you find some out at least Peronts of birds you brought

that would stop your need to guess and cut back the options you may produce

also the dark pin look could indicate a yf chic so theirs that also

First Chick arrived :sad:

 

She ended up having 7 eggs in nest,1 fertile. I removed all her clear's and all clears of another pair , and the other pair have 3 fertile eggs, so I moved them into her nest (so she was sitting on 4 fertile eggs) and I let the albino pair go for another round.

 

The other pair the 3 fertile eggs were taken from was an albino hen to yf grey split albino cock. The chick has black eyes, so I assuming that it is the grey-green and spangles chick.

 

okay you wrote this so

when were the /albino yf boy and the albino hens three due or do you not keep record of that ?

also i suggest when you find out whos chicks are whos you work out exactly what you albino hen is masking its very very helpful to know

another thing why would you be thinking rec pied

do you have any history on your birds ??? if not can you find some out at least Peronts of birds you brought

that would stop your need to guess and cut back the options you may produce

also the dark pin look could indicate a yf chic so theirs that also

 

I forgot to record dates, all I know is both clutches were laid at the same time (eg. grey-green hen layed on one day, and I got an egg from albino that day also)

 

The albino hen is sitting on another clutch now, so I will find out what she is masking then I hope. The reason I am thinking rec. pied or cinnamon is because of the plum eyes, which Kaz suggested. I mis-read them at first, and they are actually Plum. I don't know the people that breed the grey-green/ lt. green pair, I will ask the breeder of the split /ino and ino hen though. YF.... I guess. So much guesswork with budgies, time will tell

The reason I am thinking rec. pied or cinnamon is because of the plum eyes, which Kaz suggested. I mis-read them at first, and they are actually Plum. I don't know the people that breed the grey-green/ lt. green pair, I will ask the breeder of the split /ino and ino hen though. YF.... I guess. So much guesswork with budgies, time will tell

well kaz is not wrong could be rec but i believe more pos to be cinnamon i also noticed my split inos eyes although dark look kind of redish plum but they are all clearly not cin or rec or another plum eyed typeing so maybe something to that

also my split cin boys to this also accrues i know im going to get told imposable but im not blind and i record all eye colors at birth so ..not saying your chick is the same just saying genetics is funny thing

Edited August 14, 201015 yr by KAZ

That is interesting GB. The confusion of genetics though haha. I can see blue appearing on the wings, and a little more on the head (pins looking black) I will check again later on today, maybe some more pictures.

Some more pictures!

 

Head: (looking black and white)

 

Wings (so you can see better, they are in full size). Looks like blue. More visible in real life.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd279/S...le/DSCF9338.jpg

take your word with the blue all i see is black marks appearing like on the head. i'm thinking you may have a spangle here, any tail pins?

First Chick arrived

 

She ended up having 7 eggs in nest,1 fertile. I removed all her clear's and all clears of another pair , and the other pair have 3 fertile eggs, so I moved them into her nest (so she was sitting on 4 fertile eggs) and I let the albino pair go for another round.

 

The other pair the 3 fertile eggs were taken from was an albino hen to yf grey split albino cock. The chick has black eyes, so I assuming that it is the grey-green and spangles chick.

 

okay you wrote this so

when were the /albino yf boy and the albino hens three due or do you not keep record of that ?

also i suggest when you find out whos chicks are whos you work out exactly what you albino hen is masking its very very helpful to know

another thing why would you be thinking rec pied :rofl:

do you have any history on your birds ??? if not can you find some out at least Peronts of birds you brought

that would stop your need to guess and cut back the options you may produce

also the dark pin look could indicate a yf chic so theirs that also

 

I forgot to record dates, all I know is both clutches were laid at the same time (eg. grey-green hen layed on one day, and I got an egg from albino that day also)

 

The albino hen is sitting on another clutch now, so I will find out what she is masking then I hope. The reason I am thinking rec. pied or cinnamon is because of the plum eyes, which Kaz suggested. I mis-read them at first, and they are actually Plum. I don't know the people that breed the grey-green/ lt. green pair, I will ask the breeder of the split /ino and ino hen though. YF.... I guess. So much guesswork with budgies, time will tell

 

you wrote dates eggs were layed on here did you not and albino and yf / breeding thinggy try work it out from that

 

also i cant see anything but white down no feathers defenently no blue

Edited August 15, 201015 yr by GenericBlue

It's really to early to tell give them a few more days

Her earliest egg would have hatched 22nd, and her latest the 4th. That includes albinos eggs. Because the eggs were being laid on the same day, and none were marked, I guess I will need to wait and see how it goes. The other three eggs in the nest never hatched, and were DIS I think. They were going browny splotches, so I took them out and cracked top of one. look like they all went into the air bubble, but never actually pipped the egg (broke through) and they suffocated

Photos! (they arent the best, artificial light)

Do you guys think lil Cookie ( I named her) is looking stunted, or growing slow?

She hatched 3 days earlier the Kaz's little Samara, ( RIP ) And Samara was a premature chick.

Looking at the new photos, Samara looks bigger, and more feathered then Cookie?

 

Kaz's Thread: http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....40&start=40

Edited August 19, 201015 yr by Squeak_Crumble

I am thinking Grey Opaline Cinnamon Spangle

Tail quills are looking spangle, opaline down, and cinnamon posisbly on wings and plum eyes.

grey or blue, because head quills are white, and the wing colours are looking grey/blue.

I am thinking it may be from foster pair?? Changed her name to Harmony, sounds better and she loved my instrument so much. She is very wriggly now!

 

Picts:

 

In these two, you can see she is "blowing" in one, because her quills are standing up straight as it goes into her back skull.

I haven't had c chik for a while, but I am a little worried about its feet. At this age, shouldn't she be able to stand? If she is put on a flat surface, that soft carpet stuff in my music case, she can't stand properly, she just kind of lies down . Her feet are rather red and the toes aren't gripping or moving much, Is this okay? Some help please, I don't know if she is stunted or not!?

i dont know but is she coming out yf or is it the picture

also i think the chicks fine standing okay in the picture on your hand

how old is it today ??

still think df but i dont know

can you see grey or just because the pigment in the feather quills ??? i cant see much from the pics

i also think she is a he

i am probably totally wrong on all three calls of yellow face df spangle cock but its my guess

i dont know but is she coming out yf or is it the picture

also i think the chicks fine standing okay in the picture on your hand

how old is it today ??

still think df but i dont know

can you see grey or just because the pigment in the feather quills ??? i cant see much from the pics

i also think she is a he

i am probably totally wrong on all three calls of yellow face df spangle cock but its my guess

 

I think she will have a white face. I am going with hen, but it is looking more cockish by the day.

I can see white quills and in the wings it is showing with a blue/grey colour, you can't see in pictures, under the skin kinda.

DF YF, hmm I never thought of that. Wouldn't that mean the hen is either DF or split? (going with albino parents)

The albinos have another chick under them, so we will see how that one turns out

i dont know but is she coming out yf or is it the picture

also i think the chicks fine standing okay in the picture on your hand

how old is it today ??

still think df but i dont know

can you see grey or just because the pigment in the feather quills ??? i cant see much from the pics

i also think she is a he

i am probably totally wrong on all three calls of yellow face df spangle cock but its my guess

 

I think she will have a white face. I am going with hen, but it is looking more cockish by the day.

I can see white quills and in the wings it is showing with a blue/grey colour, you can't see in pictures, under the skin kinda.

DF YF, hmm I never thought of that. Wouldn't that mean the hen is either DF or split? (going with albino parents)

The albinos have another chick under them, so we will see how that one turns out

 

 

no would mean mum is masking spangle

also you cant go by quill colour only feather broken through

wasnt dad a spangle ? if mum masked spangle it could b df why eyes are plum also i said yf as the bird having dark quills on face does sometimes reprozent yf comming through

but would think you could tell your side if was by now as skin stains dark but greenish yellow look with dark quills feathers open yellow of course

but your probably right and prob grey cinnamon online

just seems very white allover still for a other colour

i dont know but is she coming out yf or is it the picture

also i think the chicks fine standing okay in the picture on your hand

how old is it today ??

still think df but i dont know

can you see grey or just because the pigment in the feather quills ??? i cant see much from the pics

i also think she is a he

i am probably totally wrong on all three calls of yellow face df spangle cock but its my guess

 

I think she will have a white face. I am going with hen, but it is looking more cockish by the day.

I can see white quills and in the wings it is showing with a blue/grey colour, you can't see in pictures, under the skin kinda.

DF YF, hmm I never thought of that. Wouldn't that mean the hen is either DF or split? (going with albino parents)

The albinos have another chick under them, so we will see how that one turns out

 

 

no would mean mum is masking spangle

also you cant go by quill colour only feather broken through

wasnt dad a spangle ? if mum masked spangle it could b df why eyes are plum also i said yf as the bird having dark quills on face does sometimes reprozent yf comming through

but would think you could tell your side if was by now as skin stains dark but greenish yellow look with dark quills feathers open yellow of course

but your probably right and prob grey cinnamon online

just seems very white allover still for a other colour

 

 

Oh, sorry, I thought you were meaning double factor yellowface (white faced bird) not double factor spangle. No, chick definetley has colour and quills, tail quills looking spangle. Face is white and black quills.

Chick died last night. Parents were not feeding him, so I fostered him. That hen fed him, but I found him dead in the morning, I think he was to far gone. I think he was feather duster, he hasnt changed at all since the lats pictures, apart from I could see he was going to be grey. I belive he was from the albino nest, and now they have another chick I will see what that one is.

 

I did crop the chick, but I don't think he had the will to live.