Posted July 2, 201014 yr I am proberly the stupidest person in the world for asking this question, but I am not sure that this chick is light green as she is incredibly dark and has a blue vent. Even as she had pin feather they came out blue? Not sure why. The Dad is split to blue I am not sure if this explains that. And then there's another part of me saying she'll have an adult molt and wont be this colour?? But what are your opinions?? Her vent(Not a very clear picture but you can see) Other angles
July 2, 201014 yr looks like my dark green /rec pied hen i to wondered why so much blue so your not that stupid your equal to me :rofl: shes yet to moult and as yours came out with half blue but in my case more like a single factor goldenface but unless the dad is goldenface in my case thats impossable and im sure dads not pretty sure :question:
July 2, 201014 yr Author looks like my dark green /rec pied heni to wondered why so much blue so your not that stupid your equal to me :rofl: shes yet to moult and as yours came out with half blue but in my case more like a single factor goldenface but unless the dad is goldenface in my case thats impossable and im sure dads not pretty sure :question: Wow! they do look alot alike. The parents are both caringing Rec pied gene. They have produced two Rec pied hens. I do believe this is a hen also. She's still very young not yet left the nest box or flew. She was born 31st May.
July 2, 201014 yr You have a Normal Dark Green/Rec Pied there Jodie! Dark greens often have blue around rump and vent.
July 2, 201014 yr Author You have a Normal Dark Green/Rec Pied there Jodie! Dark greens often have blue around rump and vent. Really....?? Cause I thought green rec pied looked like the two I already have. Could you explain other wise. Umm... these are the parents and I am going to tell you what they are carring. George I know his more cause I had him off a friend and she had his parents there. Okay he is split Opaline, Cinnamon, Rec pied and blue. Lumina Where as Lumina I bought from a pet shop and have no idea of what she was carring but through breeding know she is carring rec pied.
July 2, 201014 yr When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied
July 2, 201014 yr Author When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied Ohh! I get it now!!! Wow I am stupid somtimes >.< Alot of my the chick seem to carry rec pied. Is it domanent?? Where did the dark green come from?? Edited July 2, 201014 yr by Jodie
July 2, 201014 yr Recessive Pied, as it's title says, Is recessive This means both cock and hen birds can carry it (unlike sex linked, which only appears in hens as visual) . Both parents must carry the gene to reproduce visuals, but if you put the hen that is split rec. pied to a normal cock bird, you would get all normals split rec. pied.
July 2, 201014 yr Author Recessive Pied, as it's title says, Is recessive This means both cock and hen birds can carry it (unlike sex linked, which only appears in hens as visual) . Both parents must carry the gene to reproduce visuals, but if you put the hen that is split rec. pied to a normal cock bird, you would get all normals split rec. pied. Wow I have alot to learn about genetics. What would happen if you put a split rec pied to a visual rec pied??
July 2, 201014 yr then you can get rec pieds and normals hens or cocks and any normals in the nest will be defenantly split rec pied The Recessive Pied Pairings and Expectations Pairings Expectations Recessive Pied � Normal 100% Normal/Recessive Pied Recessive Pied � Normal/Recessive Pied 50% Normal/Recessive Pied 50% Recessive Pied Recessive Pied � Recessive Pied 100% Recessive Pied Normal/Recessive Pied �Normal/Recessive Pied 25% Recessive Pied 50% Normal/Recessive Pied 25% Normal Normal/Recessive Pied � Normal 50% Normal/Recessive Pied 50% Normal
July 2, 201014 yr When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied HE is a she........................Nubbly is female as per profile info to left of post. and I know for sure cos I have seen her in a dress or two Edited July 2, 201014 yr by KAZ
July 3, 201014 yr When he said Dark Green/ Rec Pied, the slash means split. So she is a dark green split for rec. pied HE is a she........................Nubbly is female as per profile info to left of post. and I know for sure cos I have seen her in a dress or two Sorry nubbly! I do know she is a female, sorry for my bad typing skills this is what happens when I have cold hands
July 7, 201014 yr Author Updated picture's Is she defonatley dark green?? The little thing just left the nest box yesterday. Wont stay in either when I put her back, XD Edited July 7, 201014 yr by Jodie
July 7, 201014 yr are you asking this as both peronts are light green so how did i get a dark green ??? cause if the answer to my question is yes then maybe i will say just maybe shes a violet light green but really mum and dad look nothing like violet modifier is in them and they either are violet light green or their not and both look not so >>>> im going to say its not violet light green if you were hopeful it is sorry but also cant be dark green if mum and dad are both light so it must be a very nicely colored light green chick if not dark when molts may lighten im not good with greens yet myself as only ever breed blue based pets before show birds im not much help sorry
July 8, 201014 yr Hmmm it does look like both parents are light green.......... And it looks like neither parents carry violet. Are you breeding in a colony situation? I ask this only to find out if there is any chance another cock could have mated with the hen. Oh and I got it a bit wrong - IF these parents are indeed the parents of this chick - there is a 25% chance of it carrying NO rec pied, 50% chance of it being /rec pied. Sorry about the / thing. I just assume that people know what it means - my bad. AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing. Edited July 8, 201014 yr by nubbly5
July 8, 201014 yr AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing. :rofl: :rofl: Yup, know exactly where ya coming from there Nubbs!
July 8, 201014 yr AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing. :rofl: :rofl: Yup, know exactly where ya coming from there Nubbs! Me too :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: found this photo already on BBC forum ............. Ghalib and Janice Al Nassar and ? Edited July 8, 201014 yr by KAZ
July 8, 201014 yr yep okay! But that could be a pair of overalls! Janice is a very lovely lady! Edited July 8, 201014 yr by nubbly5
July 8, 201014 yr Author Hmmm it does look like both parents are light green.......... And it looks like neither parents carry violet. Are you breeding in a colony situation? I ask this only to find out if there is any chance another cock could have mated with the hen. Oh and I got it a bit wrong - IF these parents are indeed the parents of this chick - there is a 25% chance of it carrying NO rec pied, 50% chance of it being /rec pied. Sorry about the / thing. I just assume that people know what it means - my bad. AND There is only one situation I can remember that you will have EVER seen me in a dress, Kaz! It's a VERY rare thing. No they are not bred in a colony situation I chose them both and put them into a breeding cage. So they are the only parents of the chick. But she/he is defonatly not in my oppinoin a light green, but other wise I have no clue what it is. I know the dads parentage. His father was a normal green split pied and blue. And the mother was a cinnamon opaline yf2 skyblue. And my hen the mother of these chicks I only know that she is split rec pied because of breeding, so in my opinion she could be masked something...I dont know.
July 9, 201014 yr Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible. So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on. Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid? Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green. Edited July 9, 201014 yr by nubbly5
July 9, 201014 yr Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible. So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on. Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid? Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green. yep everything nubbly said its impossable geneticlly
July 9, 201014 yr Jodie, in the pics you posted earlier in the thread you have two Recessive Pieds. I can see one is a baby but I cannot see the other too well to determine if it is an adult or not. Can you confirm it's age. As already mentioned the parents of the chick look like Light Greens. Violet Light Greens are darker so it does not look like you have and violet factor floating around. Is it possible that the Recessive Pied, if it is an adult, is the other parent as that bird is a Dark Green.
July 9, 201014 yr Author Well Jodie - then it's a bit of a mystery I reckon! The parents both appear to be light green (MAYBE one is actually a dark green?!) and neither look to have violet. The only real options that I can see is that the chick is either dark green or violet light green. Either of those options given that both parents seem to be normal light greens, without any violet, are impossible.So either it's one of those mysterious happenings or something else is going on.Another dumb question...... how long between taking the pair out of the general flight to when the hen laid? Could you take a picture of both parents together? It could be that the different light of the photo's above is hiding the fact that one of them is in fact dark green.My Hen and Cock are my pets and have always been in a cage together there is no chance at all she has bred with another cock he is the only one who been in her cage with her. As I have no aviary as of yet I am however going to build one in the coming months. I am also beating myself up because I have no clue to what colour the chick is and its making me really angry...so sorry if am too impulsive about wanting to know Jodie, in the pics you posted earlier in the thread you have two Recessive Pieds. I can see one is a baby but I cannot see the other too well to determine if it is an adult or not. Can you confirm it's age. As already mentioned the parents of the chick look like Light Greens. Violet Light Greens are darker so it does not look like you have and violet factor floating around. Is it possible that the Recessive Pied, if it is an adult, is the other parent as that bird is a Dark Green.The two rec pied I have are siblings though not of the same clutch one is a baby from this one the other is an almost 2 year old. And they are both HENS so that is impossible. And they are both children to Lumina so I would never let them intensionally breed.
July 10, 201014 yr Sorry Jodie, we are trying to help! Can you get a picture of the 2 parents in the same shot. The baby IS a dark green (or at a pinch a light green violet). So given the supposed impossibility of this outcome, I'd like to see if we have missed seeing something in the adults. OR it is possible that this is an mutation - extremely unlikely but still possible. Just noted something else - when I looked at the rec pied photo I noted that it looked to be dark green also. You said that they are siblings - are they also full siblings to the dark green chick? Edited July 10, 201014 yr by nubbly5
July 10, 201014 yr I am having an idea what we could be dealing with here but at this stage of the query I would rather not say. Like nubbly suggested, pics of parents in the same photo so to replicate exact same conditions. To get better photos do not take under incandesant light (light bulb), put them outside but not in direct sunlight. DO NOT use a flash!
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