Posted June 13, 201015 yr hey everyone just wanted to know if you could tell me the mutations of these two pairs' babies Yf violet opaline cock x sky blue rec pied hen and aslo sky blue opaline spangle cock x Gf cinnamon violet Thanks guys look forward to your answers
June 13, 201015 yr hey everyone just wanted to know if you could tell me the mutations of these two pairs' babies Yf violet opaline cock x sky blue rec pied hen All hens opaline, all cocks split opaline. All chicks split for recessive pied. 50% yellowface, 50% white face. 50% violet, 50% normal. 50% sky blue, 50% cobalt (assuming by 'yf violet cock' you mean 'visual violet' as in violet cobalt) Plus any sex linked mutations the cock is split for will show up in the hens. and aslo sky blue opaline spangle cock x Gf cinnamon violet All cocks split opaline AND cinnamon, all hens opaline. 50% goldenface, 50% white face (assuming the hen is single factor GF) 50% sky blue, 50% cobalt (assuming the hen is cobalt, otherwise all sky blues) 50% spangle, 50% normal. 50% violet, 50% normal. Thanks guys look forward to your answers I wont add up all the mutations to give you all the different variation combinations and the respective chances (eg the chance of getting a yf violet opaline sky hen, or a white face opaline cobalt hen etc etc).
June 13, 201015 yr Can you confirm the dark factors of the violet? Any split or hidden mutations that you are aware of?
June 17, 201015 yr Author Can you confirm the dark factors of the violet? Any split or hidden mutations that you are aware of? no sorry dean i forgot to ask the breader i bought him off. lets just go with cobolt
June 17, 201015 yr the golden face chicks you achieve will all be single factor golden face if that helps this just means thy will be suffused over their entire body when fully grown their for will look green so you will need to take note of what colour they are around lower chest area as chicks feather and on their back near rump eg cobalt violet or sky blue this is a sky blue single factor golden face fully matured she looks normal green she is however sky blue her golden face sky blue son / rec pied (not all split rec pied chicks get the feather spot on back of head only difference between these birds is she has yellow wings and spangle markings he is nornal wings and not spangled bellow is her father and his grand father a golden face cobalt note the deeper emerald green colour and a single factor violet golden face hes a bronzy looking green hope this helps some Edited June 17, 201015 yr by GenericBlue
June 19, 201015 yr Author thanks generic blue i understand but what will all of the chicks be mutation wise like 25% will be violet golden faced rec pied and 50% will normal cobalt opaline( not correct just trying to give an example)
June 19, 201015 yr In order to work out some percentages I have had to make certain assumptions regarding your birds possible visual indentity based on your descriptions. PARENTS Cock := YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Opaline Violet (sf) Cobalt Type II Hen := Danish Pied Sky Blue PROGENY PERCENTAGE DESCRIPTION 10.750 % Cobalt Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 10.750 % Cobalt / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 10.750 % Cobalt Violet(sf) Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 10.750 % Cobalt Violet(sf) / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 10.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Sky Blue Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 10.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Sky Blue / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 10.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Sky Blue Violet(sf) Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 10.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Sky Blue Violet(sf) / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 1.750 % Sky Blue Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 1.750 % Sky Blue / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 1.750 % Sky Blue Violet(sf) Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 1.750 % Sky Blue Violet(sf) / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 1.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Cobalt Type I Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 1.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Cobalt Type I / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock 1.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Cobalt Type I Violet(sf) Opaline / Dan Rec Pied Hen 1.750 % YellowFace Mutant 1 (sf) Cobalt Type I Violet(sf) / Dan Rec Pied Opal Cock Total Number of Progeny Types (including sexes) := 16 PARENTS Cock := Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Opaline Hen := Goldenface (sf) Cinnamon Violet (sf) Cobalt Type II PROGENY PERCENTAGE DESCRIPTION 5.375 % Cobalt Opaline Hen 5.375 % Cobalt / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Cobalt Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Cobalt Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Cobalt Spangle(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Cobalt Spangle(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Cobalt Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Cobalt Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Opaline Hen 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Spangle(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 5.375 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Sky Blue Opaline Hen 0.875 % Sky Blue / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Sky Blue Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Sky Blue Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Sky Blue Spangle(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Sky Blue Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Opaline Hen 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Spangle(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Spangle(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) Opaline Hen 0.875 % Aust YellowFace (sf) Cobalt Type I Spangle(sf) Violet(sf) / Opal Cinn-II Cock Total Number of Progeny Types (including sexes) := 32 Edited June 19, 201015 yr by KAZ
June 19, 201015 yr Author thanks rip budgies thats great but could you make it a bit more general please
June 19, 201015 yr thanks rip budgies thats great but could you make it a bit more general please you will get blue birds and violet birds with golden face from bottom pair some spangles some norm all cocks split to opaline and cinnamon and top pair cobalt,violet and skyblue half yf, half normal,and opaline hens all chicks split to rec pied all cocks split to opaline but will be normal you will get normal hens thats rips simplicized
June 19, 201015 yr I wont add up all the mutations to give you all the different variation combinations and the respective chances (eg the chance of getting a yf violet opaline sky hen, or a white face opaline cobalt hen etc etc). Jeddo, the above is what Dean_NZ posted for you and you came back with.... please do dean that was sort of what i was hoping for I made the effort to give you those combinations and respective percentages and you then come back and say it is too much. GB has given you the same as what Dean did, it is just worded differently. Edited June 19, 201015 yr by RIPbudgies
June 19, 201015 yr I wont add up all the mutations to give you all the different variation combinations and the respective chances (eg the chance of getting a yf violet opaline sky hen, or a white face opaline cobalt hen etc etc). Jeddo, the above is what Dean_NZ posted for you and you came back with.... please do dean that was sort of what i was hoping for I made the effort to give you those combinations and respective percentages and you then come back and say it is too much. GB has given you the same as what Dean did, it is just worded differently. you did a great job to rip it wont go to waste as i have a very same pairing :rofl: and its great to see detailed possable out comes
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