Hello,

recently I have read cayenne pepper may benefit to budgie's health.

For example, here: http://www.officialbarrieshuttbudgerigars....esmedicines.htm

 

Its said, beneath other things, that it "speeds up" digestion and helps burning fats.

 

Does anyone of you give his/hers budgies cayenne poweder?

How much then???

Do they really like it sooo much?

Do you feel its good for them?

 

And whats my special interest, do you think it might benefit a slightly overweight budgie with a fatty liver? Maybe someone even has experience?

 

 

Thank you and best wishes,

Sandra

Sandra, if you would like more information on this from Barrie PM me for his contact details.

Thank you KAZ, I admit this idea didn't even come to my mind. Barrie has his email on the webpage, so if no one can help me here, I'll probably try to write him, why not. Thanks for the hint!

 

It seems little strange, on the one hand there are only quite few people in the web writing on Cayenne for birds/budgies, - but on the other hand it seems all of them who use it appreciate it very much.

 

In German I almost did find nothing to "Cayenne & Birds", therefore I'm asking you here and would be happy to get as many experiences as possible! (-;

 

 

With best wishes,

Sandra

Sorry but Barrie appears to have plagarised this information from another website. If you think I am wrong then check this link out.

 

http://www.herbalextractsplus.com/cayenne.cfm

 

This site contains the article found on Barrie's web site. He has omitted certain paragraphs.

 

The photo he has used to represent Hippocrates is also pulled off another website. Which one I am not sure. If you do an image search on google it comes up a few times but the original can be found here. It also states clearly the images on tha page are copyrighted. Link to this site here. Scroll down to the third line of images, look on the far right.

 

http://www.janleighton.com/index_new8.html

 

He seems to have a habit of plagerising others work or just using photos etc for his own website. I speak from experience as he pulled photos off my web site without my authorisation and I chatted him about it.

 

As for Cayenne pepper. All I have to say is that the article and the research into Cayenne is for human physiology. As far as I am aware birds do not produce gastric juices the same way we do. They do not have a stomach like us. They have a crop and a gizzard. The crop stores food and does secrete a juice of some description which aids to soften the food. The food then moves down to the gizzard where powerful muscle action takes places to grind the food. The food then moves through the intestinal tract where particlar nutrients are removed and finally excreted. At which point, if any, Cayenne is benefical to the bird is not known. I am not aware of any studies into Cayenne uses for birds.

Edited May 10, 201015 yr by RIPbudgies

Thanks for your reply! Sad, but good to know about Barrie.

 

I absolutely agree it can be dangerous to simply carry knowledge concerning humans onto birds! I came onto this Cayenne more accidently via Google through this:

http://www.allthingsfeathered.net/index.ph...amp;#entry40469 (Post 7 and 11)

 

Unfortunately she also just gives a mix of her own experience and of infos that are not clearly concerning birds.

 

Furthermore I found out at least one sort of Harrison Pellets contains 1% Cayenne (but I'm not feeding pellets).

 

And I found a German site where someone gave water with cayenne directly into the beak after birds had worse accidents. This has helped to prevent a shock. It was a canary and two bigger parrots. Altough I don't know if the thing with the shock is really true or if it would have happend the same without Cayenne - at least its an example that it seems it doesn't harm the birds and maybe can do good.

 

 

All together this is enogh to make me little curious, but not enough to say I'll try it out. - Of course I don't want to start and do wild experiments with my birds.

 

Therefore this thread - experiences wanted! (-;

 

 

Best wishes,

Sandra

Thank you KAZ, I admit this idea didn't even come to my mind. Barrie has his email on the webpage, so if no one can help me here, I'll probably try to write him, why not. Thanks for the hint!

 

It seems little strange, on the one hand there are only quite few people in the web writing on Cayenne for birds/budgies, - but on the other hand it seems all of them who use it appreciate it very much.

 

In German I almost did find nothing to "Cayenne & Birds", therefore I'm asking you here and would be happy to get as many experiences as possible! (-;

 

 

With best wishes,

Sandra

Dont always believe what you find around on the Net , You have done the right thing and asked for a second opinion, Barrie has gotten himself into plenty of trouble before over things on the net .

Cayenne Pepper is a Hot spice , Same Family as the Chilli . I cook with it and would doubt that the birds would eat it naturally. Best to feed the bird less and more exercise to reduce the birds weight rather than to resorting to potions.

Hello Matt, yes you are right, but sometimes these methods don't help. My six budgies can fly around in the room the whole day and they get a very low fat seed mix (around 4-4.5% fat) and from this as less as possible concerning the lightest one.

 

The one bird got the fatty liver around 3 years ago when I fed another seed mix containing a couple of oilseeds, bad mistake.

 

Fortunately it seems he doesn't feel ill at all, just the beak is growing and he was x-rayed.

 

I have done strict diet combined with shooing (right word?) the bird - and this was a succes, but as soon as I loosened the "sports", he inceased his weight again. It cannot be a solution forever to force the bird to fly everyday (of course he also does fly on his own, but compared to the others he's a rather lazy guy, more a "singer" - and furthermore he likes to eat - bad combination).

 

So I stumbled upon the cayenne some days ago and I thought if its harmless in any case (that is what I'm trying to find out in the first place) - why not give it a try.

 

I've read the fats that make up a fatty liver are often so called triglcerides and that Cayenne can help to reduce triglyceride-levels --- but this, of course, concerning humans.

 

Oh, I can imagine birds might like the taste of chili and pepper, why not. They don't have receptors for this kind of "hotness" and cannot feel it like we do!

 

But when no one is beneath you who has ever given this to his birds; or even worse you haven't heard of it at all - I agree I probably should think of discarding this idea.

 

 

Kind regards,

Sandra

Cayenne Pepper:

Cayenne pepper is loaded with Vitamins A and C, B-complex, potassium, iron and calcium. It increases fat metabolism and reduces fat deposits – great for birds with, or with proneness to, fatty liver disease. It stabilizes bleeding, shock and has been known to stop heart attack. It returns blood pressure to normal and improves circulation.

 

 

http://www.birdtricks.com/blog/spices-to-a...nd-good-health/

Wow, thanks KAZ.

This sounds pretty fine, sure!

I admit I was a little hoping for anserws like this when I started this thread.

Now the new question............. does anyone of you know this site or its owner little more and can tell if it should be reliable?

Thanks once more,

Sandra

There is a contact us link on the page

 

 

and they are very well known parrot trainers http://www.birdtricks.com/about-us.html

Edited May 10, 201015 yr by KAZ