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Finnie's Flock Part Ii

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It's my intention to get pictures of all my birds up, little by little as I am able to get decent pictures of them. Since I got two new hens today, this seems like a good time add the next installment. ^_^

 

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Picture quality is not that great, but what you are seeing is one violet cinnamon recessive pied, and one yf2 sky blue opaline with either grey wings or cinnamon wings. I can't quite decide if they look greyer or browner. She's going through her first moult right now, so maybe her adult feathers will be more defined in their color.

 

What I've really really been wanting to find is a cinnamon opaline, and it would probably be too good to be true for her to be one. But at least the whiter hen is definitely cinnamon, so I think I will just have to breed my own line of cinnamon opalines. B)

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They are very pretty Finnie, B) both look cinnamon to me, but all monitors are different... ^_^

I cant quite see the yellowface but i'll take your word for it. On that note, YF cinnamon opaline sky blue. And the other one is either a cinnamon recessive pied cobalt, or a recessive pied SF violet sky blue as I cant tell from the pics if her head barring is brown or black. She looks cinnamon to me from the wing markings tho.

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i think that you have a sky blue opaline CINNAMON looks brown to me :wub: so it looks like your wish was granted

 

and the other is absolutely adorable, and i think she is a recessive pied, violet, cinnamon

and i am not sure due to unclear pictures but she may be a spangle!

as i can see brown rims not the usual black with white rims??

 

ps: with the violet, is it a colour in itself OR... is it an adding factor

so in this case a sky blue or cobalt with violet added on top?? very pretty though

 

alpaca.boy.

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Violet is a color adding factor, Grant. When you have a sky blue or a mauve bird, it can have the violet factor, and you can't usually see it. But when you have a cobalt bird, the violet factor changes the color to the violet we all seem to love, and that's when you have a visual violet. So when we say we have a violet bird, that's just a way to say we have a cobalt bird with the violet factor.

 

Here's some more pictures I was able to get outside today, hopefully they are better.

 

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I'm leaning towards that recessive pied to NOT be a spangle. I know a lot of times when I look at my recessive pieds, they seem like they might be, but I guess that is just the way the rec. pie gene affects the markings. If you look at her secondary flight feathers, they seem to be filled in all the way. Also, I've NEVER seen a spangle bird at any pet store I've gone to, so it would be odd for her to be the only one. On the other hand, out of 16 stores I canvassed yesterday, she was one out of only 4 cinnamons, so who's to say she couldn't be the only spangle? :D

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Time to add a few more pictures. This is Neil ( On the left, sky blue opaline grey wing male.) He also has the pied spot on the back of his head, so I'm counting on him being split for recessive pied. :hurryup:

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Next picture is older, and behind him is Aveline, a dominant pied violet cinnamon wing hen

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Aveline again, on the left:

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Here is Ariel, in between Neil and Aveline:

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Ariel has a little bit of a gender identity crisis. In the store, I thought she looked male, but when s/he was caught up, I was sure there was white on her cere. I've watched her a lot the last 6 months, and always walk away feeling that the ring area around her nostrils was too white for her to be a boy. HOWEVER, after all this time, the other hens her age have gotten tan and brown ceres, and Ariel's is still the pinky purple color. And Ariel has really bonded with another hen, always preening and feeding each other.This is the first time I've noticed that in the picture above, she looks really male. I'm thinking I might have to come up with a better name, Ariel doesn't quite fit for a boy.

 

Photobucket has stopped responding, so I'm going to have to post this much before it gets lost, and then hopefully add more pics when photobucket behaves itself. :ohmygod:

 

Photobucket working again. More pics of Ariel. In the left one, the top half of cere looks paler:

 

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Here s/he is with her best friend, Teagen. Unfortunately, I don't have any more shots of Ariel that show the cere.016-1.jpg

 

Teagen is even harder to get photos of. I can't get near her with the camera, or she flies away. So digital macro setting rarely works. Sometimes using flash will catch her in motion, but I took 80 some pictures yesterday, and here are the only few decent ( :blush: ) ones.

 

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My guess for Teagen is light green opaline recessive pied (or maybe a combination pied?), with grey wing. I'd like for her to be spangle, but no matter how hard I stare at her markings, I don't seem to be able to shrink them down to the tips of the feathers! :rofl:

 

Well, that's it for now. I've shrunk my flock down to 15. I think the only ones left to get up here are Aiden and the 3 bubs I kept, Riley, Nelly and Kelpie. I'm waiting on getting some good pin-head shots of those 3. :laughter:

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