April 30, 201015 yr Author Well at last a bit of good news........little baby had food in crop when I got home so I decided to leave her be....will check again around midnight.... GB..You are correct...baby was a bit pale "in patches".... Splat....The mum and Dad seem in perfect health....so they are just carrying this salmonella??
April 30, 201015 yr Well at last a bit of good news........little baby had food in crop when I got home so I decided to leave her be....will check again around midnight.... GB..You are correct...baby was a bit pale "in patches".... Splat....The mum and Dad seem in perfect health....so they are just carrying this salmonella?? If Yellowbelly is seen in a newly hatched chick it is about an early hatching not salmonella in my opinion. I had two such chicks while you have had this topic due to the mother opening the eggs when she heard pipping. They died. Edited April 30, 201015 yr by KAZ
April 30, 201015 yr All my yellow belly chicks were from the same hen too. I watch my eggs like a hawk around hatch time, and I know when they first start making moves inside and can guess the hatch time within about 2 hours accuracy. All my yellow bellies started chipping the egg late evening and should have been due about lunch the following day, but they were long dead by early morning each time. I think they may even have been helped out of the egg by the hen before midnight, just too eager. Usually happened with the first 2 eggs and she seemed to stop for the last 3 of each clutch. Eager mum Just a bit tooo eager :hmm:
April 30, 201015 yr its another one of though debate able things but im with splat i been told its illness not prems but prem can do italso but that chick was not to well weak so id say mum didnt feed as it was weak you fed it enough to gain enigy and hen warmed it more and then it was able to ask for food and was feed if left with mum would have died as she had already decided it was not right good job mate feels good saving one hay i had one like it but i moved straight away its healthy as two days it gained colour back new mum really took care as for if peronts are well or not unless you leave chicks their you wont know they will die anywhere from now to around two weeks if the mum and dad are sick they will look normal just bit white not pink when first hatched they die with food in crop usually prem is a cause but so is selmonelladont write it off
May 1, 201015 yr Hi, just asking if anyone has known hen's to break chicks out early on LAST eggs? Two I've lost were last of clutch, both overnight hatchings, Hulks chick still had a white membrane around it but had died. Aquarius's had sort of hatched but stuck to shell both a day early to my records. Not yellow belly looking just dead. Good luck with your pinky's anne. :hmm:
May 1, 201015 yr Author At last some good news for me......foster mum is feeding little Kazzy, I have'nt had to feed her all day...
May 1, 201015 yr Great news Anne, If she's started to feed her I don't think she would stop now. Any news on other eggs?
May 3, 201015 yr Sorry you lost other eggs Anne. Maybe you could try hen again, I had one last season who was totally scatty, kicked eggs everywhere, etc. only hatched 4 from 9 eggs. This season she's terrific, she has my foster chicks (3) and her own 3 and this time can't fault her. First time Mum's might take a while to settle.
May 3, 201015 yr Author Not sure if I'll try her again Robyn....she's done her dash with me for a while!!!! Picture of babies.....2 smallest ones are the fosters and the littlest one is Kazzy!!
May 3, 201015 yr well looks like kazzy was white from being cold and weak as shes brightened to the right colour now i dont see you haveing problems with her now good going glad things are looking up
May 4, 201015 yr Agree with G.B. now Anne, she's looking great heaps better than last picture. Funny how each Hen, or Cock for that matter, have their own way of doing things. Some are great first time and other's not.
May 6, 201015 yr Author Just an update...I think Kazzy may have been VERY early hatched....she is going great... full crop and growing, but only half a dozen little bits of fluff...no pin feathers, just pink and a few bits of fluff.... She is just over a week old now, there is the other foster chick that is a day or two older than her and she has heaps of "pins"...... Maybe I'm making something out of nothing but I think she should have developed a bit more...
May 6, 201015 yr One little point of interest here - an observation I picked up in reading that does work - Gerald Binks mentioned in an article once that he was visiting Daniel Lutolf, and Daniel had a baby that was pale and white, compared to the rest of the nest. He got a crop needle, and put a small amount of Olive Oil direct into the crop, and in a matter of minutes, you could not differentiate the colour of the chick. I had been meaning to try it myself, and a couple weeks ago, the opportunity arose, and I have to say I was stunned. I had a white chick, that looked like it was on death's door. He would have been about three or four days old. I took the crop needle, and put about 0.2 mL of olive oil into it, and shot it direct into the crop. I went about my business, and came back to the cage about 20 minutes later, and could not tell which chick had the olive oil into the crop, it changed colour THAT quickly. I also tried it with a chick who appeared stunted. The others in the nest were growing on, and he seemed to stay the same age and size. I put the olive oil in his crop, and he got some meat onto his legs, and started growing within days. I dont know why it works, but it does....
May 6, 201015 yr One little point of interest here - an observation I picked up in reading that does work - Gerald Binks mentioned in an article once that he was visiting Daniel Lutolf, and Daniel had a baby that was pale and white, compared to the rest of the nest. He got a crop needle, and put a small amount of Olive Oil direct into the crop, and in a matter of minutes, you could not differentiate the colour of the chick. I had been meaning to try it myself, and a couple weeks ago, the opportunity arose, and I have to say I was stunned. I had a white chick, that looked like it was on death's door. He would have been about three or four days old. I took the crop needle, and put about 0.2 mL of olive oil into it, and shot it direct into the crop. I went about my business, and came back to the cage about 20 minutes later, and could not tell which chick had the olive oil into the crop, it changed colour THAT quickly. I also tried it with a chick who appeared stunted. The others in the nest were growing on, and he seemed to stay the same age and size. I put the olive oil in his crop, and he got some meat onto his legs, and started growing within days. I dont know why it works, but it does.... I recall reading this too but I have never tried it..........thanks Troy for telling us it works. I will definitely try it next time I have an afflicted chick :rofl:
May 6, 201015 yr Author Thanks for the info Troy..... I'd need a lot more experience before I could try a crop needle on such a small chick though...
May 9, 201015 yr Author pictures from today......I'm hoping they are like mum...Mint green and Yellow.... Kazzy....the smallest one - doing really good!! Edited May 9, 201015 yr by anne101
May 9, 201015 yr Isn't he a bit young to jump the box? Or is he trying to get away from you opening the box?
May 17, 201014 yr Author Latest picture of this clutch............. You can tell whick are the two fostered!!!! Chick 1 Chick 2 Chick 3 Chick 4 (foster) Chick 5 (fostered) Kazz
May 17, 201014 yr One little point of interest here - an observation I picked up in reading that does work - Gerald Binks mentioned in an article once that he was visiting Daniel Lutolf, and Daniel had a baby that was pale and white, compared to the rest of the nest. He got a crop needle, and put a small amount of Olive Oil direct into the crop, and in a matter of minutes, you could not differentiate the colour of the chick. I had been meaning to try it myself, and a couple weeks ago, the opportunity arose, and I have to say I was stunned. I had a white chick, that looked like it was on death's door. He would have been about three or four days old. I took the crop needle, and put about 0.2 mL of olive oil into it, and shot it direct into the crop. I went about my business, and came back to the cage about 20 minutes later, and could not tell which chick had the olive oil into the crop, it changed colour THAT quickly. I also tried it with a chick who appeared stunted. The others in the nest were growing on, and he seemed to stay the same age and size. I put the olive oil in his crop, and he got some meat onto his legs, and started growing within days. I dont know why it works, but it does.... What Gauge crop needle did you use on a 4 day old chick?
May 23, 201014 yr Do they come that small Matt? Exactly my question. I cant see you crop feeding a 4 day old chick . Im still waiting on a reply?
May 24, 201014 yr Latest picture of this clutch............. You can tell whick are the two fostered!!!! Chick 1 Chick 2 Chick 3 Chick 4 (foster) Chick 5 (fostered) Kazz They are so pretty! And looking really healthy! Great stuff. Facintating suggsting too. Can't help wondering if the mum's over eager for want of calcium herself? Any thoughts? Jo
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