Posted April 23, 201015 yr Just wanting to verify the colours of these three Spangles. There's the dad, a Dark Green? And his two daughters(I think they are female, not sure). A Light Green? Olive Green or maybe Violet Green? Opinions on the genders of the last two would be great too. Thank you. Also, the mother of the two above is a Cobalt SF Violet. Edited April 23, 201015 yr by Jen144
April 23, 201015 yr Just wanting to verify the colours of these three Spangles. There's the dad, a Dark Green? And his two daughters(I think they are female, not sure). A Light Green? Olive Green or maybe Violet Green? Opinions on the genders of the last two would be great too. Thank you. Also, the mother of the two above is a Cobalt SF Violet. you dont get cobalt single factor violet anne you can get skyblue sf violet which looks like a cobalt bird and dad being a dark green and mum im guessing sf sky violet or their wouldnt be a light green chick i honestly ant even going to go into if they are violet or not but im telling you that with a sky violet whic is sf and a dark green you can get green dark green and olive so i say second chick will turn out dark green and so will the last chick as their split blue they get a sufused look intill they moult :hap: so you wont be able to tell till then violet green is a hard call in true to life so im not going to try judge two chicks in baby feather by picture but if they are will only be sf violet like mum im pretty sure , i could be wrong on that but im pretty sure
April 23, 201015 yr cobalt violets would look mauve. so you are right in saying the mum is most likely a sky blue violet. Agree with Neville that the 2nd chick looks grey-green but the cheek patches don't appear grey to me, i picture of their tails would help but i would say they are olive.
April 23, 201015 yr Author Okay the mum is 100% a Cobalt SF Violet, as has been proven by babies she's had before which simply would not be possible if she were a Skyblue SF Violet. And you're saying the dad is a Dark Green, so really it would be possible to get a Light Green out of that pairing, right..I mean, I'm sure I've seen it where a Cobalt to a Cobalt pairing can have Skyblues, Cobalts, and Mauves? 1st is a Light Green for sure then according to all of you, thanks. :hap: 2nd one could be an Olive but no one is sure yet? Here are some more pics of her, she is not a greygreen as her cheek patches are a sort of dark purply-blue colour. (hard to describe) I would have gotten pics of her tail too but she is very young and her tail is still really short, plus she decided to half sit in the water container today....I'll get some later if you want but it just looks like a yellow tail that a Spangle would have.
April 24, 201015 yr Author Anyone know what the colour of the youngest is or will I have to wait until she is older or..?
April 24, 201015 yr Two bottom ones look like olives but could also possibly be violet dark greens but with the violet coming from the cobalt side this is less likely (that crazy linkage thing). Dark purple cheek patches and grey green shade to body colour would indicate more likely olives but they can sometimes be a bit tricky. With mum being a Cobalt SF Violet (which you definitely CAN get - also called a visual violet) it's possible to get light green, dark green and olive in the same nest when paired to a dark green dad. Shame dad does not seem to be split blue or might have got some more violets. Oh and cobalt violets LOOK violet. This is the combination you need to aim for to get the best violet colour as the violet modifier (especially if it is a df violet but still with sf violets) combines best with the colbalt to give you that nice rich violet colour (visual violets in other words). Edited April 24, 201015 yr by nubbly5
April 24, 201015 yr Two bottom ones look like olives but could also possibly be violet dark greens but with the violet coming from the cobalt side this is less likely (that crazy linkage thing). Dark purple cheek patches and grey green shade to body colour would indicate more likely olives but they can sometimes be a bit tricky. With mum being a Cobalt SF Violet (which you definitely CAN get - also called a visual violet) it's possible to get light green, dark green and olive in the same nest when paired to a dark green dad. Shame dad does not seem to be split blue or might have got some more violets. Oh and cobalt violets LOOK violet. This is the combination you need to aim for to get the best violet colour as the violet modifier (especially if it is a df violet but still with sf violets) combines best with the colbalt to give you that nice rich violet colour (visual violets in other words). yea cobalt sf is stupid to call it though if its visual then its violet ??? visualy so vishulalviolet skyviolet not always being visual hence the single factor but i know you know and explain things better than me mate so im out of this one but i thought a sf violet was only in sky as cobalt sf was classed as a visual violet so their for just violet ??? isnt it texnical
April 24, 201015 yr Hey GB I think things get a bit confused when we dicuss sky violets cobalt violets etc. But I understood the sf to be explaining the violet portion not the cobalt portion so the bird in question was cobalt AND sf violet. So from my point of view it's easier to say something like sky df violet (menaing a skyblue bird with 2 violet genes) or muave sf violet (meaning a mauve bird with 1 violet gene). So for me the cobalt sf violet is a way more accurate way of saying visual violet. If I'm off on completely the wrong track here I'm hoping Jen will set me straight!
April 25, 201015 yr that is how i read it too nubbly and i didn't realize both birds in question where spangles so the tail colour will not help. looking at the new ones i still thing olive
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