My perfect score on the recent quiz was spoilt by the violet / grey question. Not happy Jan !

 

 

That said, what does a Grey-Violet bird look like ? I read it would be grey and mask the violet completely, though still carrying the gene, and able to produce some violet chicks ?

 

Is there a way of telling whether a grey also has violet (or vice versa) ?

 

 

Is mixing them a good idea anyway ? I wouldn't have thought so.....

I'm pretty sure Violet and grey are both Dominant colours so if they were bred together one would have to become a recessive colour... But thats about as far as my knowledge today goes...

 

I'm sure others can give more info or correct if wrong...

I'm pretty sure Violet and grey are both Dominant colours so if they were bred together one would have to become a recessive colour... But thats about as far as my knowledge today goes...

 

I'm sure others can give more info or correct if wrong...

Do you recall yesterday Cec saying that the grey spangl;e chick he gifted you had a violet mother and may be carrying violet ? I think he said it was hard to tell one way or another and may or may not show at a later moult.

But being both dom colours one would still have to become a recessive colour wouldn't it, than making some chicks split for the other colour... But you can tell which colour will be dom or rec till their bred... isn't that how it works when you breed two dom colours together...

 

Geez, this genetic colour stuff is doing my head in...

Grey and violet are on seperate genes. Grey is a dominant colour modifier, violet is a partial-dominant colour modifier that lies on a seperate gene. They can co-exist and neither is suppressed by the other. I have a thread somewhere about a violet grey bird I had. Just as violet is difficult to visually identify in greens, so it is with greys. Often in the presence of strong colours like green and grey, the violet appears more as a dark factor and the violet sheen (although present) can be difficult to see visually, unlike with straight blue birds.

 

Edit: Here is the link to the violet-grey thread: > Click Here <

Edited April 19, 201015 yr by Dean_NZ

Thanks for that Dean_NZ that does make sense...

Grey and violet are on seperate genes. Grey is a dominant colour modifier, violet is a partial-dominant colour modifier that lies on a seperate gene. They can co-exist and neither is suppressed by the other. I have a thread somewhere about a violet grey bird I had. Just as violet is difficult to visually identify in greens, so it is with greys. Often in the presence of strong colours like green and grey, the violet appears more as a dark factor and the violet sheen (although present) can be difficult to see visually, unlike with straight blue birds.

 

everything he says and if you look at the cheek patches thats the key

they will be violet or a french blue not grey

All good to know. Thanks people.

 

Ripping thred Dean. Highly informative.

 

 

Clearly there is no loophole in that Quiz !!! Doh

it is funny to read back over that thread it was so confusing but in end we all got their

did that boy ever make breeding room or july comming ????