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Thank you. I'll keep them until they moult then decide whether I want to keep it. As the dad is split opaline, it could be split.

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Those interesting flight feathers you mentioned......is it because of the dark edge ?

If so................all these chicks have the same look

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Is that unusual too? I was thinking that.

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Those interesting flight feathers you mentioned......is it because of the dark edge ?

If so................all these chicks have the same look

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im not sure but i would say its as the colour of each bird is on the feather intill it gets to the dark points you can see

do i make sence

 

normal birds would have just plain black all along

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So that black isn't meant to be there?

I think its the reverse guys - note the flights are dark toward the tips as normal, but the main colour of the flights appears more yellow/golden with normal black edging. I think given the unusual yellow in the flights makes sense when you consider the tail - a bluey turqoise (as you would normally expect) with extra yellow pigment would become more green. So if anything, we could be looking at a genetic redistribution of yellow pigment which I havent heard of yet. Of course it could dissapear with the first moult, but as with 'crest bred' birds, perhaps it is one of those complicated genes or perhaps it is a recessive or partial dominant mutation that needs to be doubled up on before it really shows itself.

 

For example cock birds split opaline (melanin redistributing gene) often display a great deal of opalescence in the shoulders and neck, just in the way this bird might be split for some sort of yellow redistribution gene? Just some thoughts :)

 

Like others have said, time will tell...

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Hmmm.... I can see what you mean. But I hate waiting.

I think its the reverse guys - note the flights are dark toward the tips as normal, but the main colour of the flights appears more yellow/golden with normal black edging. I think given the unusual yellow in the flights makes sense when you consider the tail - a bluey turqoise (as you would normally expect) with extra yellow pigment would become more green. So if anything, we could be looking at a genetic redistribution of yellow pigment which I havent heard of yet. Of course it could dissapear with the first moult, but as with 'crest bred' birds, perhaps it is one of those complicated genes or perhaps it is a recessive or partial dominant mutation that needs to be doubled up on before it really shows itself.

 

For example cock birds split opaline (melanin redistributing gene) often display a great deal of opalescence in the shoulders and neck, just in the way this bird might be split for some sort of yellow redistribution gene? Just some thoughts :wub:

 

Like others have said, time will tell...

 

 

thats what i ment thanks dean

:D

time and crossing back to the peront of opozed sex isnt that how its done i dont know i have no clue

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I've read you shouldn't start out line breeding, but if it does keep it's tail then I may have to.

I have a picture of the secondry tail feathers for you.

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Line breeding is breeding closely related siblings (like cousin to cousin for example). What you need to do to establish new mutations is actually INBREEDING. Normally this is very strongly advised against as it doubles up on good AND bad genes (including any lethal, blindness or other nasty ones). However inbreeding is the best chance of securing any new mutation as it is not always clear if the mutation has occured uniquely in the chick, or if it is a combination of a hidden mutation carried by both or one parent.

 

In this case no-one would be critical of you inbreeding :wub:

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Makes sense. I could need some help if I had to do that. Also is this normal?

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Yep, that will certainly dissapear after the first moult. I've seen it a few times and always in young chicks.

dont know how true it is but i read somewhere that chicks with barring going along toward chest could be carrying clearwing genetics

anybody else hard this or is it just another myth

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Could be true... Skye and Marigold were pet shop birds ( got really lucky there).

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I just checked my birds and Marigold has the barring too. I couldn't get a good photo of it as she kept flying about and I didn't want to scare her in case she is carrying an egg. ( she looks egg bum) Skye has it too. :wub: I thought they grew out of it?

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dont know how true it is but i read somewhere that chicks with barring going along toward chest could be carrying clearwing genetics

anybody else hard this or is it just another myth

 

 

I believe it to be a myth, as I have seen it many times and none of those birds were from clearwing breeding or genetics.

dont know how true it is but i read somewhere that chicks with barring going along toward chest could be carrying clearwing genetics

anybody else hard this or is it just another myth

 

 

I believe it to be a myth, as I have seen it many times and none of those birds were from clearwing breeding or genetics.

 

yeah i tend to be with you their kaz but i heard it so ...

just putting it out their

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I've just been told that it is normal for a light green. :D

Its not exactly normal and in chicks often disappears. But I have a certain line of birds from a breeder who shall remain unmentioned whose birds even as adults often carry barring above the butt of their wing as your yongster does. It's one of the ways (along with looks) that I can recognise this very well known breeders birds. I even noticed it on a bird of theirs at last years nats.

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They are moulting at the moment I think so I'm seeing how it all goes. Could somebody post a picture of a normal birds wings and flight feathers? I think somebody mentioned how the flights were different. My birds have body colour going through the flights. The also have a V-shape on their backs.

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Actually a green tail budgie is something i dreamed of since i was young, but guys did you notice the legs they are pink not grey as suppose to be, (do the faded have a green tail ?!)

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Really? Yes, all of their legs are pink. What do you mean by the faded having the green tail?

Faded is a mutation in budgie, but i don't know whether it have a green tail or not , i don't think i saw it in real before, but i think we are dealing with a mutation here, just keep the bird safe, and if the others are his siblings keep them as well, maybe they are split to it!

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