I am getting ready to pair up soon....trying to figure out my options.....

 

What might the results be of these two??

 

Cinnamon violet cock.....

 

 

 

Hen - double factor spangle

 

 

 

 

 

 

And....

 

 

Dom pied Hen.........(old picture, wings have healed nicely)

 

 

 

 

Recessive pied cock......

 

 

 

 

Thoughts from the guru's?

 

I'm not a guru and I don't remember what effect the violet has on percentages, Your DF Spangle is YF so that should add another percentage into the mix

 

Look forward to hearing from the guru's....

I am getting ready to pair up soon....trying to figure out my options.....

 

What might the results be of these two??

 

Cinnamon violet cock.....

 

 

 

Hen - double factor spangle

 

 

 

Well with those two you are going to get all spangles. The DF is a yellowface white DF spangle too, so all babies will be blue series and some will be yellowface, some will be cinnamon. as for percentages I cannot tell you. DF spangle mask other mutations in the same kind of way that inos do so there may be surprises.

 

 

As for the other pair I wouldnt mix two kinds of pieds myself.

Edited March 17, 201015 yr by KAZ

As for the other pair I wouldnt mix two kinds of pieds myself.

 

 

Bearing this in mind KAZ would you change the pairings around so the DF was paired to the Rec Pied Cock and the Violet paired with the Dom Pied Hen or would you not pair a DF Spangle to a Pied either?

As for the other pair I wouldnt mix two kinds of pieds myself.

 

 

Bearing this in mind KAZ would you change the pairings around so the DF was paired to the Rec Pied Cock and the Violet paired with the Dom Pied Hen or would you not pair a DF Spangle to a Pied either?

 

Spangle of a decent size and quality is likely to improve the size of a recessive pied, but a DF spangle could be hiding anything so unless you know what its a gamble.

Are we sure that he is a recessive pied and not a DF Dominant Pied? Very little markings make me think he ight be a double factor dominant pied.

Thanks to everyone for replying...What's the reason you don't breed pieds together Kaz?

Are we sure that he is a recessive pied and not a DF Dominant Pied? Very little markings make me think he ight be a double factor dominant pied.

Is there a way I can tell Dave?

Thanks to everyone for replying...What's the reason you don't breed pieds together Kaz?

You do breed pieds together just usually not recessive and dominant together.

Are we sure that he is a recessive pied and not a DF Dominant Pied? Very little markings make me think he ight be a double factor dominant pied.

Is there a way I can tell Dave?

Iris rings or not.

Well as I found out this morning the cock in question has an iris ring in one eye and not in the other.....

So I guess I'll never know.....

 

 

 

Well as I found out this morning the cock in question has an iris ring in one eye and not in the other.....

So I guess I'll never know.....

 

 

 

 

 

Then I would suggest it is double factor dominant pied and since markings are light around the head area it may also be greywing.

So if you were a pet type breeder....would you pair them up? they have bonded?

So if you were a pet type breeder....would you pair them up? they have bonded?

As you are a Pet type breeder it doesnt matter about mixing combinations

Again....thank you so much for your advice Kaz.....

So I guess you can expect some dom pieds out of that pairing then df dom pied X dom pied what is the percentages on that 50% double factor dom pied 50% single factor dom pied? Or is is 25% chance of DF dom pied? Need to get my books out...

JB, I think it's....

 

50% dom pied (SF)

50% dom pied (DF)

Well I paired up the 4 birds above as well as 4 other pairs so I will see what happens.... so far 9 eggs all together.

Well I paired up the 4 birds above as well as 4 other pairs so I will see what happens.... so far 9 eggs all together.

im no guro but that df dom is opaline i bet :glare:

How can you tell GB??

Well as I found out this morning the cock in question has an iris ring in one eye and not in the other.....

So I guess I'll never know.....

 

 

 

 

 

well apart from the fact i had one just like him

his lines are actually blue not grey

would i be right

hes not grey wing hes opaline cobalt

you can also tell hes double dom from where the cut off to his head strips are theirs the faintest tiniest few lines past the cheek stripping not sure if you can see it but i can

not very good pics so cant be positive but bet you get opaline hens i also say he would be split rec pied but thats just as one eyes normal one ringed

the golden face sky blue hen does she have all mint green markings or does she have blue (sky)visible on rump

Edited April 9, 201015 yr by GenericBlue

Well as I found out this morning the cock in question has an iris ring in one eye and not in the other.....

So I guess I'll never know.....

 

 

 

 

 

well apart from the fact i had one just like him

his lines are actually blue not grey

would i be right

hes not grey wing hes opaline cobalt

you can also tell hes double dom from where the cut off to his head strips are theirs the faintest tiniest few lines past the cheek stripping not sure if you can see it but i can

not very good pics so cant be positive but bet you get opaline hens i also say he would be split rec pied but thats just as one eyes normal one ringed

the golden face sky blue hen does she have all mint green markings or does she have blue (sky)visible on rump

 

 

I think GB is right too :rofl:

Well as I found out this morning the cock in question has an iris ring in one eye and not in the other.....

So I guess I'll never know.....

 

 

 

 

 

well apart from the fact i had one just like him

his lines are actually blue not grey

would i be right

hes not grey wing hes opaline cobalt

you can also tell hes double dom from where the cut off to his head strips are theirs the faintest tiniest few lines past the cheek stripping not sure if you can see it but i can

not very good pics so cant be positive but bet you get opaline hens i also say he would be split rec pied but thats just as one eyes normal one ringed

the golden face sky blue hen does she have all mint green markings or does she have blue (sky)visible on rump

 

 

GB..... I think all the markings on his head are grey except his cheek patch(he only has one) is purple? - I will have a look at him again today to be sure.......

 

The hen is all mint green .....

Yep... all head markings on the white cock are grey.

 

There is no blue on the hen... all mint green and yellow and black.

Edited April 10, 201015 yr by anne101

Yep... all head markings on the white cock are grey.

 

There is no blue on the hen... all mint green and yellow and black. :laughter:

 

 

okay maybe he is greywing but looked blue to me i must be going blind

but i still think hes opaline

be interesting to see

oh and my one he was single facter dom not df and spitting image to yours exept blue on head not greay

i remember as his clutch had doms and rec and a normal

 

the yf hen i asked as i was going to say something but i forgot so its all good

if i remember what i was going to say

shes single factor golden face or just yf do you know

she is pretty do you have a resent picture??

 

anyway what ever their very pretty and you will get beautiful chickens

Thanks GB..... colours can be very hard with monitor colours being different.....

 

I don't have a recent photo of the hen, she is sitting on 6 eggs at the moment, so as soon as she starts coming out of the nestbox more I will get a new picture...

 

Will keep you posted if there are opaline chicks...

This is the two pieds second clutch.....just thought I'd let you know how the chicks turned out....