hi guys

so in breeding my birds i am trying to work out how do i distinguish between a grey-green with dark factor grey

 

a grey-green with single factor (medium grey)

 

and one with light grey (no dark factor grey green )

 

and one with double dark

 

also the same again but in green

eg

dark green / blue, in medium

dark green /blue ,in light

dark green / blue ,one with medium factor

one mabe / mauve or violet blue

or am i totally confused and you cant get these

 

thanks in advance

Oh I read something about dark factors the other day... bugger... I'll have to find it for you GenericBlue it was good reading too... *off i go to find some info*...

 

 

 

I found it... LoL... This is what I read the other day on the dark factors...

 

http://www.birdhobbyist.com/parrotcolour/parblu02.html

 

Hope it helps... Sorry if it doesn't...

Edited February 14, 201015 yr by LittleBudgie2005

All I can say is "f-ing hard". Greys and grey greens tend to hide dark factors really well. You can sometimes get a HINT of it by comparing light, dark and double dark factors together but often you just can't tell either.

 

I have had a couple of birds that you NEVER EVER consider to carry a dark factor pop out a dark green chick. Best way i have found to figure it out is with breeding results.

 

Sorry, not much help there.

Edited February 14, 201015 yr by nubbly5

thanks for trying guys

nubbly im trying to work it out so i don't need to test breed to see what dark factors if any are held

so i can pair appropriately the first time round

just i think i breed a grey green bird with double dark making him olive but he is actually grey green to look at but he is definitely green not grey green his mum was grey medium id say and dad was grey green double dark id say

what should be out come of that might be easyer to get a colour expectation chart for that ..???

 

grey medium factor

to..... grey green double dark/blue

out come ...????????????

Since I like to have fun with Punnet squares, I gave this a try, GB. But I can only work out the percentages of each gene separately. I know there's a way to get percentages of all 3 combined, but it's too complicated for me.

 

So, I think you said pair a grey bird with single dark factor to a green bird, split for blue with grey factor and double dark factor. I'm not sure if you mean single grey factor or double grey factor, so I went with single for both birds. Here goes.

 

As far as getting green series or blue series offspring, you would get 50% green split for blue, and the other 50% just blue.

 

Now as for the dark factor, 50% would have double dark factor (olive or mauve) and 50% would have single dark factor (dark green or cobalt).

 

Then for grey factor, you would get 25% double grey factor, 50% single grey factor, and 25% no grey factor.

 

 

Maybe someone will come along with a genetic calculator and get the percentages of each that would combine all three genes.

Just reading this thread made my head explode!!! You know, I'm fine with human genetics and in my line of work I've had to study it extensively but budgie genetics is something I can't wrap my head around!!!! I'm so grateful for the experts in this area even though I rarely understand what you are saying !!!

Just reading this thread made my head explode!!! You know, I'm fine with human genetics and in my line of work I've had to study it extensively but budgie genetics is something I can't wrap my head around!!!! I'm so grateful for the experts in this area even though I rarely understand what you are saying !!!

 

keep bashing your head mate and maybe it will

EXPLODE (blood everywhere ) :rofl:

sorry :mallet: does my head too some days :raincloud: :laughter: :wine

I am trying to work out if a pairing I am planning is worthwhile or not.

Cock is OLIVE greywing

Hen is Dark Green split blue greywing.

Any ideas ?

Or is it a bad pairing ?

Edited March 29, 201015 yr by KAZ

in my opinion after extensive research and testing your budgie is of a green colour?

Edited March 29, 201015 yr by Houman

GB you can definitely tell the diference between a grey green and an olive - easily! Grey greens cheek patch is grey or steely blue, olive has violet coloured cheek patch.

 

The issue is that a double dark factor (olive) plus the grey factor (so an olive grey green in effect) looks like a grey green with the cheek patch AND body colour affected by the grey factor so unfortunately it won't look much different from a normal grey green or even a single dark factor grey green.

GB you can definitely tell the diference between a grey green and an olive - easily! Grey greens cheek patch is grey or steely blue, olive has violet coloured cheek patch.

 

The issue is that a double dark factor (olive) plus the grey factor (so an olive grey green in effect) looks like a grey green with the cheek patch AND body colour affected by the grey factor so unfortunately it won't look much different from a normal grey green or even a single dark factor grey green.

 

so this does further backup my theory that indeed the budgie is green

I possess an extremely dark Grey Green. I know by the depth of colour he is not a no dark factor or in other words Light Grey Green. I suspect he is either a Dark Grey Green (1 dark factor) or an Olive Grey Green (2 dark factors). There is also the possibilitiy of Violet being present. I did not buy this bird so he is unknown quantity. He is paired to a Cinnamon Dilute Light Green (BES). This pairing will result in all green offspring spring for Dilute, unless of course they are both split for blue but this is of no concern anyhow. Depending upon results I will have a good idea of what this bird is carrying.