okay so here are some pics and just say what you see then i will explain why

these not mum and dad these foster birds

 

 

 

 

 

it is the lacewing on cage floor these birds not related yet same age

 

 

i put it in a plastic tub to get a clear picture for you guys

 

 

but didnt work well so

 

 

 

 

 

i supplemented it yesterday as it was not feed much

 

 

 

okay what do you guys think is it okay or something wrong with it

its 4 weeks old

it was hatched on jan 4th this year

its very light compared to my other chicks and its not got a full crop ever ???

can you see the feathers on its head they part and flop when it puts its blow on

is it me or could something be wrong with this chick

 

im hopeing its just a good bird and im on my way however im not to sure

Sorry GB but I really think you have a feather duster, it's got the shark thing happening too (long secondary flights).

 

BUT then it might not be, just watch it closely will be able to tell in a week. So far the wings are quite tidy but it does have that look about it.

 

Just had photo 3 and 4 I think looks more feather duster but then I have also seen that fluffed up look in my friends birds, she looks hungry so she's all fluffed.

Later later photos she looks fairly normal. You can tell by the time they are 5 weeks old if they are a mop or not.

Keeps us updated

Edited February 2, 201015 yr by splat

Sorry GB but I really think you have a feather duster, it's got the shark thing happening too (long secondary flights).

 

BUT then it might not be, just watch it closely will be able to tell in a week. So far the wings are quite tidy but it does have that look about it.

 

i was thinking

she is sitting very lazy though the wings look like all my other birds breed

the thing that gets me is is very light and very thin is feather mass is huge

but apart from that its feather develop meant is in time its beak is fine tail feathers and its quiet but when it does churp its normal and quiet loud

 

i guess i will have to wait and see i just wish i could tell now as i will send it to god soon as i know as i rather that than it suffer

( they do suffer )

Normally mops are big and fat while with the parents as they demand all the food because they can't get enough nutritian from their food so they always want more , something like that, BUT once out of the nest and the parents stop feeding them they loose weight quickly.

I agree - looks like a mop(feather duster) to me

I agree - looks like a mop(feather duster) to me

 

i thought their feathers were ment to grow at a rapped rate and also that the tail feathers were ment to be more than normal

mmmmmmmm and here i was thinking i finally got a goodn i did feel in my gut something was wrong ...however his sisters and brothers are all long feathered as she is and they are all also very big

this is whats confusing me

it was possable to get a supper chick from the pairing i paired so....thats why i was uncertain

but i will go with you guys on this however i will wait for a few more responces although you guys are probbly right id hate to send a good bird to god if were wrong but also i dont want to keep it alive if it is as its hungry

im feeding it extra twice a day

 

 

do people agree its a mop ????

thanks guys for your opinion i can get more pics if needed just let me know what to snap and i will

i really want to be sure on this one before i do anything hasty

GB by 5 weeks the wings should be messy like extra flights etc and they have this wow head about them that makes you think you have this wonderful bird

I would just leave her for the time being and see how she turns out if you think she is fine because I had 2 this year that I was quite sure the were mops with great feather and wow heads and they were normal not mops.

Look at the tail feathers, have the main two tail shafts grown beyond the other tail primaries, or is the tail still short. If the two main tail feathers are long then it will not be a mop, if they are short then chances are you have a very pretty mop. cheers Clearwing

Does she make a different chirp than the others?? FD's sound quite different.

Keep an eye on the head feathers - on a FD, the base of the feather shaft always has 2-3mm of sheath on it from continuous growing.

I agree the flights are fairly tidy for a FD but she defiantly looks like a FD to me otherwise.

 

Cirrus and Quilla at around 4 weeks old

Edited February 2, 201015 yr by **Liv**

okay guys i will look at tail shaft shorter mop longer normal

and i will check the feather sheath

 

she has normal sound when she does chirp

which is not much

her feathers are quiet tidy so

i will go and asess her as im going to feed her again if she has not feed herself or been feed

thanks guys i will get more pics too

okay my chick has a short tail but no shorter than anyone else in the clutch

the long one is longer than the other ones but not by much

the head feathers do not have sheaths on them and seem to be more balanced now when she blows

she is happy enough but still looks not feed

but then again this morning the whole clutch bar

two chicks seemed to be not feed and hungry

this is a clutch of all fosters bar one chick

i think mum and dad have just had enough of them all

but all other options bar rearing are gone so

looks like i may have to rear the chicks myself the oldest one is eatting its self i will leave it and the one being feed and feed others my self

 

it still most probably a mop though by sounds of everyone's thoughts so..

i will give her one welk more to see for sure

She looks mop in some photos and in others she doen't but these 2 pics she does look mop but she looks hungry all fluffed up maybe that is all it is but time will tell.

But if she has left the nest and the parents are feeding her that is a good sign that is a mop.

 

she hasnt left nest as it hot i have nest on floor and the door off the chicks just wander around i put them all back at night

she is hungry though in thoughs pick and i did feed her she was fine after that

i will update

i just rang breeder to see if any mops in his line of history

they are going to get back to me

She seems to be a feather duster and as with others, time will tell for sure.

She seems to be a feather duster and as with others, time will tell for sure.

Doesn't look quite the same as a mop but you'll see in time. What did you breed her from?

She ISN"T a Feather Duster and grows into her feathers!

Doesn't look quite the same as a mop but you'll see in time. What did you breed her from?

 

i breed her from one of my two split lacewing opaline grey green boys that i got just before i got your boys

the one that could fly is the dad the mum is a really big hen my biggest i have she has loads of feather

the cock comes from a breeder who has loads of feather and his mum was apparently a massive big lacewing hen

i rang him but he wont be home till tonight so i asked if he could look at the familey history a bit for me see if its anywhere in their

i know the hen has nothing in her history so...thats going right right back through alot of generations

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

older sister

 

 

her tail and older sisters tail they are same

 

other lacewing day youngers tail the same

 

another sibbling to this hen

 

 

 

 

the others still are not feathered but also big like her and the yf grey

Fingers crossed its just going to be the best chick you have bred so far

I think it just needs feeding, they say when you have good feather in your breedroom you undoutly get featherdusters.

All you can do is wait and see.

I think it just needs feeding, they say when you have good feather in your breedroom you undoutly get featherdusters.

All you can do is wait and see.

 

yes it does need feeding and i am feeding it myself and placing it back so it can be feed by other chicks mum dad what ever but seems that it just doesnt seem interested unless i feed it

so... and im not to well at moment so not really up to having a budgie 24 seven in my pocket as i may forget and hurt it

im feeding it two times a day but mabe it needs more im just hopeing it will get the hint like the other chicks and crack the seed its self

but its just contented to prune its self and sleep

im thinking of taking it to a freinds to get constant attention but if i do that i know they will fall in love and i will have to let them keep her as i will feel bad they did all the work

 

she doesnt eat much when i do feed her she doesnt seem hungry but does eat willingly from a eye dropper

Hi G. B., back in Nov I posted about my last lot of chicks. They were all feathers also and advice was, I had doubled up on long feather gene? I had four, 2 look pretty good now, last 2 are still "loose" feathered and one has short tail as if it's moulted out AND one has a very distinct loud chirp.They were very slow compared to others coming out of nest and very clumsy fliers as well.Their feathers arn't still growing like the pics of mops I saw. Maybe yours has a similar problem? Mine aren't for show so I don't mind, I just watch if I breed from them. Hope yours turn out o.k. (my parents were both big show stock olive cinnamon & gr Cinnamon). Thought this might be a clue.

Hi G. B., back in Nov I posted about my last lot of chicks. They were all feathers also and advice was, I had doubled up on long feather gene? I had four, 2 look pretty good now, last 2 are still "loose" feathered and one has short tail as if it's moulted out AND one has a very distinct loud chirp.They were very slow compared to others coming out of nest and very clumsy fliers as well.Their feathers arn't still growing like the pics of mops I saw. Maybe yours has a similar problem? Mine aren't for show so I don't mind, I just watch if I breed from them. Hope yours turn out o.k. (my parents were both big show stock olive cinnamon & gr Cinnamon). Thought this might be a clue.

 

thanks mate i am going to have to wait and see it is defenently hungrey as splat pointed out

so i am going to feed her myself so tomorrow im off to the dentist with a chick in my bag

the pub and out for a dinner with my friend lol all with chick in bag as its the only thing i can do

i found out i was expecting to much from her when it came to food i was trying to feed it 10 ml but two to three is ive been avised plenty so thats what shes been eatting from me so makes sence

i will keep you up dated lol

 

on the adventures of....zapdos

the lacewing.

comming friday to australian budgie sight .com.au

 

 

okay so here are some pics and just say what you see then i will explain why

these not mum and dad these foster birds

 

 

 

 

 

it is the lacewing on cage floor these birds not related yet same age

 

 

i put it in a plastic tub to get a clear picture for you guys

 

 

but didnt work well so

 

 

 

 

 

i supplemented it yesterday as it was not feed much

 

 

 

okay what do you guys think is it okay or something wrong with it

its 4 weeks old

it was hatched on jan 4th this year

its very light compared to my other chicks and its not got a full crop ever ???

can you see the feathers on its head they part and flop when it puts its blow on

is it me or could something be wrong with this chick

 

im hopeing its just a good bird and im on my way however im not to sure

 

I sent these pictures to Ray Welshman,this was hes reply.

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The picture. of the bird You sent does not look like a MOP as the tail feathers

are in line with the body, when it is a mop they are usually angled out about

30 degrees or more on each side. They just look natural feathers to me, they

appear to have plenty of blood in them I would be more worried about them

being french moulters than anything and I don't even think that is the case.

Hi G.B., Have you taken any more pics of your lacewing yet? How is it looking now? :rofl: