Posted February 2, 201015 yr This morning I awoke and as usual took my morning coffee over to the aviary to check on everyone and I was heartbroken to see little Luvie on his own in the middle of the aviary floor looking very glum. Lou Lou, the tart, was off elsewhere getting chatted up by someone far more to her liking. I tutted to him and he perked up and then waddled over to some other budgies and tried to make out he was part of their conversation. But they gave him the cold shoulder and once again he was on his own. Luvie all on his lonesome: You may ask, What does it matter? He'll be right in a few days! Well no, he won't. I don't know whether it's 'cause he has never grown a tail and doesn't fly around like most of my other budgies but Luvie is not the most popular of budgies and it is really sad as budgies are very social birds. SO, I have decided to give him another girlfriend and bring him inside. First job, scrub down the perches and bake them in the oven. A tip for beginners, don't forget them! Here's the clean cage with rather singed perches: As I looked around the aviary I realized that most of them are in breeding condition so choosing a gal for him wasn't too difficult. In the end I settled upon a lovely Recessive Pied hen I bred in 08 from a Manno x Manno pairing. She has already bred for me last year and most importantly she has a very sweet nature. I have named her Rose. A 'happy snap' of them together: I am considering letting them go down. More on that later!
February 2, 201015 yr lol dont forget them ...was that tip as yours are burnt me id start a kitchen fire im sure so will stick to the white king and sunshine im glad he looks happyer already
February 3, 201015 yr Author In an interesting twist I had to pull Lou Lou from the aviary last night and bring her indoors to a holding cage. Her right eye has swelled right back up to where it was last week. All within a space of 36 hours. I am thinking she may have an allergy? In any case she is back on the Ionic Silver drops till recovery and then I will pop her in amongst the Young Uns, she is only a Red Runger after all. Of course the ungrateful hussy is livid to see that Luvie has a new girlfriend and is making her feelings known with even more noisy squawks! And she is refusing to eat again. For his part Luvie looks rather bashful while Rose is non-plussed!!!
February 3, 201015 yr poor luvie oh well looks like he will settle in with is new girlfriend. Bad new about Lou Lou, hope she gets better completely soon. Perches I scrub mine down then wash with a solution of domestoc and then spray them and everything with verkonS. Sorry NO ovens. not here.
February 3, 201015 yr One thing about the cooked perches,the birds can eat them & get there supply of charcoal.
February 3, 201015 yr Author I have come to the conclusion that little Lou Lou is high maintenance. Her outraged squawkings are inhibiting Luvie's bonding with Rose, so something needed to be done. I have found another carer for her, a Gary Armstrong DF Spangle forthwith known as Doug. He is another sure fire cock bird and quite the gentleman with the ladies, if I ever have any concerns about a maiden hen I put him in with her and he trains them up perfectly. Here is Lou Lou and Doug: (moments after being put together you can see he is hanging off the wire - he knows she's "trouble"! ) (a little bit later, I can tell she quite likes him - she has gone all quiet and dopey!) Of course, the main priority is to get Lou Lou out of Luvie's eye sight so he can get on with seducing Rose .... So I have stacked the cages with Lou Lou and Doug at the bottom: Now I will wait and see how things develop.
February 3, 201015 yr Author The curious thing about Lou Lou's eye is that amongst the redness there was a little white spot. No photo's I'm afraid, I didn't fancy my chances of getting a good close up and besides after some Ionic Silver drops it disappeared. I did notice that last week too. Would anyone like to speculate?
February 3, 201015 yr Author What on the eye iteslf or on the skin aorund the eye. It is the inner eye lid that swells up and partially covers the eye (which is fine) and on the cere side towards the bottom I saw a tiny white dot, like a stye on a human eye.
February 3, 201015 yr It could be the start of a cyst or it could be a bit of seed hush and they tend to stick to the skin in the eye. See if you can flush it out with slightly warm boiled water with salt added I just crab a big pinch of it or you can buy the solution from the chemist. My hen started out with a sore eye like your bird but boy did it good to BAD. Good luck with her.
February 3, 201015 yr Author It could be the start of a cyst or it could be a bit of seed hush and they tend to stick to the skin in the eye. See if you can flush it out with slightly warm boiled water with salt added I just crab a big pinch of it or you can buy the solution from the chemist.My hen started out with a sore eye like your bird but boy did it good to BAD. Good luck with her. It's gone now but I will boil up some water and give her eye a good flush tonight as you've recommended.
February 3, 201015 yr Author I have discovered that there is a disadvantage to catching Lou Lou for her drops - Doug at first glance looks just the same! Just as well Lou Lou is a squawker other I'd be catching the wrong bird all the time!
February 3, 201015 yr I have discovered that there is a disadvantage to catching Lou Lou for her drops - Doug at first glance looks just the same! Just as well Lou Lou is a squawker other I'd be catching the wrong bird all the time! :rofl: ren have you put lou lou on doxcy yet as i think she should go on it my friend had samething with same reacurance we doxcyed him seperatly with his long time breeding partener for 45 days the swelling is gone and has not returned they will stay seperate from her flock for 6 months to be sure as slight para what ever it is can cause this exact eye thing and the reacurance of it just think about it
February 3, 201015 yr Author I have discovered that there is a disadvantage to catching Lou Lou for her drops - Doug at first glance looks just the same! Just as well Lou Lou is a squawker other I'd be catching the wrong bird all the time! ren have you put lou lou on doxcy yet as i think she should go on it my friend had samething with same reacurance we doxcyed him seperatly with his long time breeding partener for 45 days the swelling is gone and has not returned they will stay seperate from her flock for 6 months to be sure as slight para what ever it is can cause this exact eye thing and the reacurance of it just think about it Actually, now you come to mention it, that is a very good idea. Everyone is due to go on an extended course of Doxy ... I have done the Carlox preventative medication routine and everyone is jumping out of their skins with vitality ... I will see how I go, might get Lou Lou back to normal and then commence the Doxy course. :rofl:
February 3, 201015 yr Renee maybe you should her on doxy now I think what GB is trying to say is that it could be Chlamydia ( Psittacosis ), The vet told me the same thing. http://www3.sympatico.ca/davehansen/sinus.html
February 3, 201015 yr Author Renee maybe you should her on doxy now I think what GB is trying to say is that it could be Chlamydia ( Psittacosis ), The vet told me the same thing.http://www3.sympatico.ca/davehansen/sinus.html Except she doesn't have any watery discharge at all and no cheesey bits either ... but I am considering that the white dot I saw was the lachrymal duct and that as soon as the swelling dropped it disappeared? I will sleep on it and check her eye in the morning and take it from there.
February 3, 201015 yr But Renee if her eye is sore and the feathers around looked wet to me that means she must have some fluid leaking out just like our eyes.
February 3, 201015 yr Author But Renee if her eye is sore and the feathers around looked wet to me that means she must have some fluid leaking out just like our eyes. The feathers are wet due to run off from drops. Patience, patience, I am not saying no - just need to think a bit more
February 3, 201015 yr But Renee if her eye is sore and the feathers around looked wet to me that means she must have some fluid leaking out just like our eyes. The feathers are wet due to run off from drops. Patience, patience, I am not saying no - just need to think a bit more whats their to think about you plan to doxcy her anyway or are you planing on breeding loulou soon ren i personally think what your doing is a bad example to the people on here whom are not show breeders and know no differences in illnesses and issues or even whom are not show breeders and breed budgies pet type for one you have subjected 4 birds to a possible illness and two you have not even consulted your vet you have no clue what your dealing with and the problem has recurred the eye does not need to leak liquard nor have cheesey gunk on it as you said it does not need to be a bad case of parra birds hold it at different degree of leavels the eye only need to be swollen and the few feathers surrounding be removed from rubbing whats to think about ren your always going on about good old doxcy yet now you have a real reason to use it not just as a preventative you need to think about it sorry but i think thats a bit hypercritical of the advice you so often give a sick bird so anyone whom does not understand the importance of illnesses and the need to work out whats going on to prevent other birds from getting same issue needs to be removed from all other birds at least untill you have pin pointed the issue causing the bird s signs needs to be quarantined four a period of at least 4 weeks after problem is resolved ,...unless not life threatening and you know it can not pass on to other birds before the bird is then reassessed and cheacked over before releasing back to flock at a healthy weaight im sorry ren but your not dealing with this issue in my veiw your just band aiding it with that stuff vet doxcy what ever but it needs something not a friend it is not not eating as its alone its sick with what that's your job to discover and find out then treat appropriately all your doing is risking birds to what ever she has your birds ....my opinion
February 3, 201015 yr Author But Renee if her eye is sore and the feathers around looked wet to me that means she must have some fluid leaking out just like our eyes. The feathers are wet due to run off from drops. Patience, patience, I am not saying no - just need to think a bit more whats their to think about you plan to doxcy her anyway or are you planing on breeding loulou soon ren i personally think what your doing is a bad example to the people on here whom are not show breeders and know no differences in illnesses and issues or even whom are not show breeders and breed budgies pet type for one you have subjected 4 birds to a possible illness and two you have not even consulted your vet you have no clue what your dealing with and the problem has recurred the eye does not need to leak liquard nor have cheesey gunk on it as you said it does not need to be a bad case of parra birds hold it at different degree of leavels the eye only need to be swollen and the few feathers surrounding be removed from rubbing whats to think about ren your always going on about good old doxcy yet now you have a real reason to use it not just as a preventative you need to think about it sorry but i think thats a bit hypercritical of the advice you so often give a sick bird so anyone whom does not understand the importance of illnesses and the need to work out whats going on to prevent other birds from getting same issue needs to be removed from all other birds at least untill you have pin pointed the issue causing the bird s signs needs to be quarantined four a period of at least 4 weeks after problem is resolved ,...unless not life threatening and you know it can not pass on to other birds before the bird is then reassessed and cheacked over before releasing back to flock at a healthy weaight im sorry ren but your not dealing with this issue in my veiw your just band aiding it with that stuff vet doxcy what ever but it needs something not a friend it is not not eating as its alone its sick with what that's your job to discover and find out then treat appropriately all your doing is risking birds to what ever she has your birds ....my opinion Yes, yes Thank goodness for Freedom of Speech. You are a little late though - I have already put everyone on Doxy.
February 3, 201015 yr But Renee if her eye is sore and the feathers around looked wet to me that means she must have some fluid leaking out just like our eyes. The feathers are wet due to run off from drops. Patience, patience, I am not saying no - just need to think a bit more whats their to think about you plan to doxcy her anyway or are you planing on breeding loulou soon ren i personally think what your doing is a bad example to the people on here whom are not show breeders and know no differences in illnesses and issues or even whom are not show breeders and breed budgies pet type for one you have subjected 4 birds to a possible illness and two you have not even consulted your vet you have no clue what your dealing with and the problem has recurred the eye does not need to leak liquard nor have cheesey gunk on it as you said it does not need to be a bad case of parra birds hold it at different degree of leavels the eye only need to be swollen and the few feathers surrounding be removed from rubbing whats to think about ren your always going on about good old doxcy yet now you have a real reason to use it not just as a preventative you need to think about it sorry but i think thats a bit hypercritical of the advice you so often give a sick bird so anyone whom does not understand the importance of illnesses and the need to work out whats going on to prevent other birds from getting same issue needs to be removed from all other birds at least untill you have pin pointed the issue causing the bird s signs needs to be quarantined four a period of at least 4 weeks after problem is resolved ,...unless not life threatening and you know it can not pass on to other birds before the bird is then reassessed and cheacked over before releasing back to flock at a healthy weaight im sorry ren but your not dealing with this issue in my veiw your just band aiding it with that stuff vet doxcy what ever but it needs something not a friend it is not not eating as its alone its sick with what that's your job to discover and find out then treat appropriately all your doing is risking birds to what ever she has your birds ....my opinion Yes, yes Thank goodness for Freedom of Speech. You are a little late though - I have already put everyone on Doxy. well you changed your mind quick i only said that as you were sleeping on it I will sleep on it and check her eye in the morning and take it from there. glad you saw reason
February 3, 201015 yr Gee your Lucky Renee you can give your birds stuff in the dark , I can't go near my birds in the dark they friek out smash against everything. I am glad you have put her and all your birds on the doxy Renee because that was the first thing my vet told me to do. He said most important and actually I couldn't understand why but it is a broadspretrum antibiotic but at the same time he might of being thinking something more serious Clamidia or how ever you spell it. So I am really pleased you did it. It would be ashame for a disease like that go through your aviary. I new my hen didn't have it as I couldn't find anything under the microscope. Edited February 3, 201015 yr by splat
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