medi - swaps Skin cleansing swaps from the chemist and that stuff you said when I got home

 

cool that should dry out the infected area and kill the backteria so... when it closes again the liquard should stay dryed up

if not then it would be vets for me or id just keep redoing what i told you till the wound dryed up not much the vet can do for that kind of thing really

hope shes better a tad

She is no better at all. The poor little thing. The side of eye I is all swollen, when CW and I lanced it we thought it would just pop and go down but it didn't after we got all the blood out it stayed the same size but it did look like she had a little relief. BUT all swollen again but she is looking so healthy, hasn't lost weight, not fluffed up, no messy bum everything looks good except her eye.

I am too scared to lance it on my own and more scared of giving her an infection. BUT I quess I have nothing to loose.

She is still on the doxy.

I think trip to the vet tomorow but I will ring first and see what he says.

im a lot more just do it i guess it isnt easy sometimes but i have done some prettyweird and yuk things to save birds and they have savived against all odds and would of died if i had not

my next move after vet would be to slice the blister clear off then wash it with the same thing i said but has to be diluted remember

 

 

but thats me vets better option

If i sliced it off Gb she would have a big hole in her head. It's pretty big. And I am scared I will kill her and what if it is that sinisits or what ever it's called.

I will see how she is tomorrow

Well Best of Luck whatever you decide to do.

If i sliced it off Gb she would have a big hole in her head. It's pretty big. And I am scared I will kill her and what if it is that sinisits or what ever it's called.

I will see how she is tomorrow

 

im not sugesting you do slice it off if their is a hole in her head then thats really weird

but i know you will consolt vet and go from their me i tend to fix anything the vet says is no hope by my far out antics but i only do when im defenent its life or death she seems happy bar the blister thing

u sure its not a bite from something

For the case it is a sinusitis, I found this:

http://books.google.de/books?id=6nngRlwIl5...tis&f=false

 

http://books.google.de/books?id=tN3pn2Psym...;q=&f=false

 

Hope, the Links will work. Try out to search after "budgerigar sinusitis" at http://books.google.com/ - there you can take a look in several books.

 

Also Google itself might help:

http://www.jstor.org/pss/1590898

http://www.officialbarrieshuttbudgerigars.com/sinusit.htm <<< seems to be a good link.

 

(I have not read any of the above, yet).

 

All the best,

Sandra

Yes I have looked some of that up and she is not unwell so I don't think it is the sinis thing but who knows.

I rang the vet and the avian vet is away until next Monday is wife who is a vet is there and she does have an interest in birds.

Anyway rather than go over there to someone who may not know I have sent them some photos first.

 

Hi I just rang about my birds eye, She has been on doxy for 14 days now with no improvement. I have been washing her eye with warm boiled salted water and the last few days applying chlorsig which is helping to keep the eye clear.

Thursday last week another breeder broke it with a sterile needle and we got a lot of blood out but the swelling didn’t go down it was like a big air bubble. It looks like it has filled with blood again.

It is like a big blister.

The bird is healthy has not lost any weight and is not fluffed, she is not bobbing her tail and she seems to be breathing normally. Some one told me it could be sinusitis but she doesn’t seem to have anything to suggest that except for the eye.

She has nothing coming out of her nose it is clean and dry (normal).

Could you please advice me I have attached a couple of photos of her eye, the swelling is not as red as the photo. You can see the eye is clear and no discharge.

Regards Julie

 

with these photos

wow julie thats like a orange to the poor bird

it is a very weird blood blister isnt it

looks like the eye duct gland is swollen id go to vet with her for a personal look

she knows birds a bit thats better than not at all

could be blocked duct which could be sinis related but mabe not due to cold mabe dust or something else blocked it

Waiting for to ring.

I just pricked again and the fluid is not as thick as the blood last time, Last week when we did it the blood was sort of sticky or guey just now it was watery blood more like fluid but I didn't get it all as she complained so much I was scared she would have a heart attack.

 

 

UPDATE

just rang the vet and she hasn't had a chance to have a look yet will ring when has

Edited February 1, 201015 yr by splat

The vet rang and had a look at the images I sent her and said it doesn't look like sinusitis but it looks like it is a blood filled tumor or cyst and either way it will need to surgically removed.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ **** everything happens at once, last week my car broke down after a few hundred dollars they inform the back shockers have gone and need to be fixed straight away now a operation for a bird that you have to pay for on the spot

I am scared if I go ahead and then she dies the next day I have heard of that happening .

Tumor is life threatening as it will keep growing inside. But she thinks by the image it is a cyst but still needs to be removed.

Doug won't be back until next Monday and he will have a look and advice me, in the mean time need to keep it clean and hope she doesn't get an infection. She doesn't think the doxy will be much good as there is no difference after 14 days use but she said it is the ideal antibiotic to you when it comes to the eye.

The vet rang and had a look at the images I sent her and said it doesn't look like sinusitis but it looks like it is a blood filled tumor or cyst and either way it will need to surgically removed.$$$$$$$$ **** everything happens at once, last week my car broke down after a few hundred dollars they inform the back shockers have gone and need to be fixed straight away now a operation for a bird that you have to pay for on the spot

I am scared if I go ahead and then she dies the next day I have heard of that happening .

Tumor is life threatening as it will keep growing inside. But she thinks by the image it is a cyst but still needs to be removed.

Doug won't be back until next Monday and he will have a look and advice me, in the mean time need to keep it clean and hope she doesn't get an infection. She doesn't think the doxy will be much good as there is no difference after 14 days use but she said it is the ideal antibiotic to you when it comes to the eye.

It never rains, it bloomin' pours!

 

okay, I would try and approach this rationally and not emotionally. Assess her age and projected life span and consider what her quality of life will be IF you remove it and IF you do not. Weigh up the risks and costs involved, then sleep on it and reassess the next day. When you have come to a decision it will feel straightforward.

she is only about 18months old so very young, and she is the hen I got 2nd at the uncapped shield, 14 in the hens class at the young bird shield and won best hen at the Riverina and Ky shows, so you can see she is my best hen and i really want babies from her.

Knock Knock Knockn on Heavens door .

Do yourself a favour and dont breed from this bird , you will only breed more trouble later.

Why is that Matt, I have others out of the same nest and all fine used the parents with different birds..... this is the first time I have ever had anything like this.

How do you know she will pass it on. That's if she recovers .

Hi all well CW and I operated of the hen today and the conclusion is a cyst amongst all the blood was the usual cheesey stuff you get with a feather cyst.

But once we got into it, out came this black thing like a seed, so we think a seed started it off and caused the infection well swelling went down straight away once Geoff got all the guk out.

But it does look like it is filling with blood again though.

But the hen looks as a happy as ever, she is not sick or anything, I really thought she would drop dead of a heart attack from all the stress but no she is bright eyed and bushy tail or what ever the saying is.

Yes Gb bathed it in the benadine or how ever it is spelled and use the medi wipes too.

The poor girl she looks like a new mutation" sky blue cinnamon opaline red head spangle"

 

Any saved a $200.00 vet bill

I was beginning to think feather cyst or similar as it has the appearance of one. Bugger of a place for her to be affected....poor hen Hope she makes a full recovery.

Edited February 2, 201015 yr by KAZ

I knew it wasn't the eye in the end because her eye is clear and bright.

Yes Kaz a rotten place for one

Wow what bravery! Great news the operation went well and all is good now!

Yes alls good so far.

Just bathed it with benadine (I just know I spelled that wrong)

Yes alls good so far.

Just bathed it with benadine (I just know I spelled that wrong)

 

i cant spell it either

im glad you took the chop as really you could see it was something blocking something and causing a blood blister

i would have gone the slice and dice myself

i usually do vets just a back up plan

and ive lost no birds dealing with things myself

but i do have a bit of an idea of what im doing and proper surgical blades extra and dont touch anything i dont know what needs doing unless vet says its going to die anyhow

benadine is awsome stuf make sure you get it right into the wound not her eye though

always needs to be watered down id cover the eye and squirt it right iside the opening of wound so it gets into the blood blister useing an eye dropper or even inject a small amount in to it next time u pop it before u squeze or relize blood out and splat give her a few days and go the squeeze let her squawk it will only hurt once get everything out but like i said inject a tad watered down ben that stuff lol into with the syringe before you squeeze it all out but do all at once does that make sence

 

as now you got the main infection if it bloods up again you need to dry it out one last time to stop reinfection

Edited February 2, 201015 yr by GenericBlue

It actually looks like it is filling up with blood again but it might take a few days to settle. I think she will be sore and sorry for a day or two

It actually looks like it is filling up with blood again but it might take a few days to settle. I think she will be sore and sorry for a day or two

 

let it fill splat see if it is yellow this time more than brown watery red

just now you have got the core of the blister it should fill up again and if no change in a bout three to for days a week if its stays stable then id splice it again but how i said to using the benidine as a wash out injection before you squeeze the blood out or liquored out not leaving anything in their as that is whats causing the re swelling its like our own blood blisters unless u uncover it to raw it blisters up again

you can get the stuff that our mums put on us that violet stuff its to dry out woonds you need that if you decide to cut it right off if you do you need twezers to hold the blister empty skin and a razor sharp surgical blade to gently cut around the bottom edge of blister till out off so theirs no skin covering wound it needs to be protected from infection but needs to air dry

 

not much else you can do bar vet apart from that

good luck hun

is she inside id bring her in if you open it right up

Oh the joys of breeding show budgies! A big welcome to you Splat!!!!!!! This is the pointy end of the stick, in the same position I would have done the same thing and tried to lance and clean as you did. The arguement for not breeding with your top bird is such a hard one when it really comes down to it. Do you breed the predisposition for feather cysts in a family by using her or will all be well. For me the chance of using her would outweigh the risks of doing so - THAT I guess is why we DO have the health problems in our birds that we do.

 

It's a nice moral agruement isn't it but one I only play around the edges of particularly because I WILL try and save a really good bird.

 

I really hope she has a full recovery splat!