Posted January 12, 201015 yr I was taught a long time ago that the best way to stop the bleeding that was occurring from an attacked chick was with white pepper. I had leanrt previously to use flour from this forum and other places. Flour was very messy. I decided to give the pepper a goas the advisor was a budgerigar breeder of some standing and he was most insistant. Well, it worked better and faster than the flour method with a whole lot less mess. So, I have always advised it myself when we have such questions as my budgie is bleeding etc etc. Today I have received a lot of abuse over such advice. I have been threatened with being reported for animal cruelty as well as being told I was running a bird mill. I am putting it out there...................is pepper a good blood stopper or not ? Anyone else use it ? If anyone has, what results ? The results of internet searches give you these answers and interestingly enough also black pepper and cayenne pepper is advised for stopping bleeding http://tipnut.com/stop-bleeding-ground-black-pepper/ Q. Last night I sliced my finger on the inside of a can that I was rinsing out. It was a fairly significant cut. I rinsed it and applied pressure, then went to the cupboard and pulled out a packet of black pepper (which had been stored in the cupboard specifically to treat cuts). I put black pepper on the bleeding cut and then bandaged it and it seemed fine. After a few minutes, I started to think maybe it wasn't such a good idea to put pepper into an open wound. I decided to rinse out the cut and make sure it was clean, then wrap it again and start over. But when I took the bandage off, the bleeding had stopped and the cut was basically sealed. I rinsed it and put a new bandage on. This morning, I looked again and it hardly looks like there was a cut at all, though it's still quite tender. I’m amazed this worked so well! A. Thanks for your story. Other readers have reported that ground black pepper does seem to help stop bleeding, but a serious cut requires medical attention instead of home remedies. Whilst slicing enthusiastically into a watermelon for dessert this evening, I managed to open a gaping wound across the pad of my left thumb. This led to a violent stream of colourful piratical expletives and, indeed, blood. I stopped leaping around when I realized I was giving the kitchen a new spatter paint job and decided to do something more constructive, like plunging the offending gash into a pile of white pepper which my mother had thoughtfully dumped onto the kitchen counter. White pepper is an oft-ignored cure for most of the problems related to lacerations of the flesh. It creates an artificial scab almost instantaneously and disinfects the wound to boot. This is something people always seem surprised to learn -- perhaps because the standard associations one has with pepper aren't exactly in the "soothing cure-all" vein -- but it has proved invaluable on numerous occasions. My accuser writes.................. PLEASE DON'T USE WHITE PEPPER! TALK ABOUT TORTURE!! Cuts cause pain, so does pouring salt in a wound, and so does introducing white pepper, cayenne pepper, or any other type of pepper into an open wound. To do such a thing to a helpless pet bird would be no less than torture and animal abuse, and is a matter for PETA, in my opinion. To Me as part of an email Your animal abuse and budgie-mill practices would NEVER be tolerated here in the U.S. You would be in JAIL where you belong with the other sociopaths. Enjoy it nowcause in the next lifeyou will not be so lucky. ......I hope you are proud of yourself and may you be reborn in the next life as a poor parakeet owned by some kid who took your advice of pouring pepper in your woundspoking at them and causing you unnecessary painand otherwise giving you the horrible life that you have earned in this one. am I wrong ? Edited January 12, 201015 yr by KAZ
January 12, 201015 yr well i must be really crule then not only did i use black pepper to stop bleeding but i cut off my budgies leg as a result i saved his life :rofl: mind u it was all done with proper surgical blade and knowledge of the ingery i tryed the flour first as said on this sight but to no advail and as said messy as flower every where then i decided to use black ground pepper corns as i remembered that in my herb book this was a remidy to stop fast and continuous bleeding the bleeding stopped with in a few seconds the pepper clots blood :rofl: bird was taken to vet soon as could to have bone removed from leg to finalize his life saving usual but necessary incident
January 12, 201015 yr Author Did anyone observe the unnecessary pain inflicted on the birds ? Edited January 12, 201015 yr by KAZ
January 12, 201015 yr Did anyone observe the unnecessary pain inflicted on the birds ? um no but then im not a budgie but when put on human cuts no pain by way salt and pepper two diffrent things salt pain pepper no pain and relife
January 12, 201015 yr I have in the past lost birds due to blood loss caused by injury/accident but never since using white pepper to stop the bleeding. I wonder what is more painful for the bird pepper or DYING - I wonder what PETA would say about that. God that person is as stupid as they come!
January 12, 201015 yr Send me the forum & I will,apply a little of my charm on there forum. :rofl: :rofl: :D :D
January 12, 201015 yr Send me the forum & I will,apply a little of my charmon there forum. :rofl: :rofl: Please do Kaz!
January 12, 201015 yr I've not heard of doing that BUT if it works, then why not? I would think that a little bit of sting from pepper is much better than a sad slow death from blood loss. Besides - don't we sting when we put betadine/antiseptics or salt/salt water/sea water in our wounds? Wounds always seem to heal much better, don't they?
January 12, 201015 yr quote]My accuser writes.................. PLEASE DON'T USE WHITE PEPPER! TALK ABOUT TORTURE!! Cuts cause pain, so does pouring salt in a wound, and so does introducing white pepper, cayenne pepper, or any other type of pepper into an open wound. To do such a thing to a helpless pet bird would be no less than torture and animal abuse, and is a matter for PETA, in my opinion. To Me as part of an email Your animal abuse and budgie-mill practices would NEVER be tolerated here in the U.S. You would be in JAIL where you belong with the other sociopaths. Enjoy it nowcause in the next lifeyou will not be so lucky. ......I hope you are proud of yourself and may you be reborn in the next life as a poor parakeet owned by some kid who took your advice of pouring pepper in your woundspoking at them and causing you unnecessary painand otherwise giving you the horrible life that you have earned in this one. am I wrong ? Reading this, it is obvious that this person is ranting and irrational. I would guess that they are all bark and no bite. I think you are best off ignoring them, and not letting them get your heart rate up. If they are truly threatening you, I don't think there is much they can do. Anyone they complain to would probably write them off as a lunatic. And PETA only cares about high profile cases where they can draw in a lot of donations if they publicize it. And besides, PETA has no authority. They are just loud and obnoxious. You would not be on their agenda. Another thing, their opinion of what is tolerated here in the U.S. .... They are off in La-La Land!! And for their calling you a sociopath. What kind of sociopath would think up the word sociopath to threaten someone with...? How dare they threaten our KAZ?! You go, Macka, sic'em!!
January 12, 201015 yr Send me the forum & I will,apply a little of my charmon there forum. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :bliss: oh macka i dont want to share you with others i love you your our macka you belong on here with us all giving us you wize words and charm as its put
January 13, 201015 yr I went and had a scrounge around last night! What a treat I had to laugh at some of the answers (and shook my head in amazement at some others) - wow how do you get away with spouting so much rubbish! I couldn't handle being on there for long. You'd better watch out there Macka they are all so incredibiliy intelligent!
January 13, 201015 yr kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong.....
January 13, 201015 yr Author kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong..... There is no pain from the pepper. Test it on myself all the time....I work with glass....dont you guys think I cut myself..........and OFTEN ?!
January 13, 201015 yr kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong..... There is no pain from the pepper. Test it on myself all the time....I work with glass....dont you guys think I cut myself..........and OFTEN ?! i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times Ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ...
January 13, 201015 yr Author i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... dont worry gb..........I have also said that the pepper doesnt sting and also I have been ignored too. Its peoples assumption that pepper would sting that causes a problem.
January 13, 201015 yr kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong..... There is no pain from the pepper. Test it on myself all the time....I work with glass....dont you guys think I cut myself..........and OFTEN ?! i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times Ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... Maybe you think you write things... but then don't and it is just in your head???!!! I do it too though... Often posts get skimmed over by members and not read properly... then something you wrote gets repeated and everyone is like... Yes I agree... and you're like WHAT!!! do I not exist!?!?!? Not just you love...
January 13, 201015 yr Send me the forum & I will,apply a little of my charmon there forum. Priceless!i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times Ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... No GB you are never ignored. quote]My accuser writes.................. PLEASE DON'T USE WHITE PEPPER! TALK ABOUT TORTURE!! Cuts cause pain, so does pouring salt in a wound, and so does introducing white pepper, cayenne pepper, or any other type of pepper into an open wound. To do such a thing to a helpless pet bird would be no less than torture and animal abuse, and is a matter for PETA, in my opinion.To Me as part of an email Your animal abuse and budgie-mill practices would NEVER be tolerated here in the U.S. You would be in JAIL where you belong with the other sociopaths.Enjoy it nowcause in the next lifeyou will not be so lucky.......I hope you are proud of yourself and may you be reborn in the next life as a poor parakeet owned by some kid who took your advice of pouring pepper in your woundspoking at them and causing you unnecessary painand otherwise giving you the horrible life that you have earned in this one.am I wrong ?Reading this, it is obvious that this person is ranting and irrational. I would guess that they are all bark and no bite. I think you are best off ignoring them, and not letting them get your heart rate up. If they are truly threatening you, I don't think there is much they can do. Anyone they complain to would probably write them off as a lunatic. And PETA only cares about high profile cases where they can draw in a lot of donations if they publicize it. And besides, PETA has no authority. They are just loud and obnoxious. You would not be on their agenda.Another thing, their opinion of what is tolerated here in the U.S. .... They are off in La-La Land!! And for their calling you a sociopath. What kind of sociopath would think up the word sociopath to threaten someone with...?How dare they threaten our KAZ?! You go, Macka, sic'em!!Well said Finnie! And Oh bless her! I am all for everyone expressing an opinion and for there to be a variance of thoughts .... but really, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO AGREE! Or for that matter take it seriously. Edited January 13, 201015 yr by renee
January 13, 201015 yr Author i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... dont worry gb..........I have also said that the pepper doesnt sting and also I have been ignored too. Its peoples assumption that pepper would sting that causes a problem. kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong..... There is no pain from the pepper. Test it on myself all the time....I work with glass....dont you guys think I cut myself..........and OFTEN ?! i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times Ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... Maybe you think you write things... but then don't and it is just in your head???!!! I do it too though... Often posts get skimmed over by members and not read properly... then something you wrote gets repeated and everyone is like... Yes I agree... and you're like WHAT!!! do I not exist!?!?!? Not just you love... Edited January 13, 201015 yr by KAZ
January 13, 201015 yr i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me i recon some times they do as many times ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... dont worry gb..........I have also said that the pepper doesnt sting and also I have been ignored too. Its peoples assumption that pepper would sting that causes a problem. kaz, everyone here knows you are a very good budgie breeder and understand what they do or dont like. i mean, if you put pepper on the bird and you saw the bird screeching or something like that, with all your experience, im sure youd realise what you did was wrong..... There is no pain from the pepper. Test it on myself all the time....I work with glass....dont you guys think I cut myself..........and OFTEN ?! i think i wrote pepper does not sting as a posed to salt does everyone just ignore me :raincloud: i recon some times they do as many times Ive said something only for 10 posts to go by and someone else say same thing and then everyone listens maybe im a small voice amongst many others mabe i write things wrong does anyone ever understand me i wonder at times ... :hmm: Maybe you think you write things... but then don't and it is just in your head???!!! [/color] I do it too though... Often posts get skimmed over by members and not read properly... then something you wrote gets repeated and everyone is like... Yes I agree... and you're like WHAT!!! do I not exist!?!?!? :question: Not just you love... ha ha well i am mentally ill ... arnt i Edited January 13, 201015 yr by GenericBlue
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