I just thought I would update as to what's going on with Big Ted. Well, since I last posted (Nov 24, 09) BT continued to have his funny smell and his watery droppings. Though, following the outcome/diagnosis of the last vet visit I put it down to his 'fatty liver'.

 

Although I never did believe BT was ever a fat bird, as the vet had assumed by looking at him on my last visit, BT lost weight. I could feel this when I handled him. He got thinner, but his droppings didn't change. I also think he became slowly and subtly quieter over the month.

 

Then, over the weekend past, he started regurgitating (not in a happy budgie way). I could see seed come up into his mouth. He did it frequently and seemed distressed when it happened. He would then go over to his feeder and behave ravenously hungry but throw most of the food out of the feeder as if he were trying to look for his favourite piece. Next I could see him regurgitating a cloudy liquid mixed with seed and then he vomited clear liquid which stuck to his head/face feathers. Later he vomited a cloudy sort of liquid into his feeder as he tried to eat.

 

On Monday I took him to the vet who examined him and confirmed he was thin. I described his symptoms and the diagnosis given was psittacosis and suitable meds were prescribed. I enquired after a dropping analysis as well as a throat/crop swab both to confirm psittacosis and to rule out any other cause. The vet said he could send of a sample if I liked but thought starting treatment for psittacosis would be better and also he wasn't sure what diagnostic test was used on a ling bird to detect psittacosis.

 

I got home googled psittacosis and came across the Vetafarm website where they offer dropping analysis for, among other diseases, psittacosis. Luckily, I gave them a call to confirm if it was suitable for me, as a layperson to send my birds droppings for analysis. They were more than helpful and took a history of the situation with BT. After giving history/symptoms etc I was given a different diagnosis of Trichomoniasis – Canker. They were fairly convinced of this and that the bird should be treated for Canker and not psittacosis. They recommended a crop/throat swab to confirm it.

 

I then had the uncomfortable job of contacting my vet who was really good about it and said he would go with their diagnosis as they were the bird specialists. He is unable to carry out a throat swab though.

 

I am still going to send off the droppings 'just in case' and to rule out all other factors. Meds for Canker will be here tomorrow morning, thank goodness, as BT seems really quiet and overly sleepy.

I just thought I would update as to what's going on with Big Ted. Well, since I last posted (Nov 24, 09) BT continued to have his funny smell and his watery droppings. Though, following the outcome/diagnosis of the last vet visit I put it down to his 'fatty liver'.Although I never did believe BT was ever a fat bird, as the vet had assumed by looking at him on my last visit, BT lost weight. I could feel this when I handled him. He got thinner, but his droppings didn't change. I also think he became slowly and subtly quieter over the month. Then, over the weekend past, he started regurgitating (not in a happy budgie way). I could see seed come up into his mouth. He did it frequently and seemed distressed when it happened. He would then go over to his feeder and behave ravenously hungry but throw most of the food out of the feeder as if he were trying to look for his favourite piece. Next I could see him regurgitating a cloudy liquid mixed with seed and then he vomited clear liquid which stuck to his head/face feathers. Later he vomited a cloudy sort of liquid into his feeder as he tried to eat. On Monday I took him to the vet who examined him and confirmed he was thin. I described his symptoms and the diagnosis given was psittacosis and suitable meds were prescribed. I enquired after a dropping analysis as well as a throat/crop swab both to confirm psittacosis and to rule out any other cause. The vet said he could send of a sample if I liked but thought starting treatment for psittacosis would be better and also he wasn't sure what diagnostic test was used on a ling bird to detect I got home googled psittacosis and came across the Vetafarm website where they offer dropping analysis for, among other diseases, psittacosis. Luckily, I gave them a call to confirm if it was suitable for me, as a layperson to send my birds droppings for analysis. They were more than helpful and took a history of the situation with BT. After giving history/symptoms etc I was given a different diagnosis of Trichomoniasis – Canker. They were fairly convinced of this and that the bird should be treated for Canker and not psittacosis. They recommended a crop/throat swab to confirm it.I then had the uncomfortable job of contacting my vet who was really good about it and said he would go with their diagnosis as they were the bird specialists. He is unable to carry out a throat swab though.I am still going to send off the droppings 'just in case' and to rule out all other factors. Meds for Canker will be here tomorrow morning, thank goodness, as BT seems really quiet and overly sleepy.

well mate my birds had same simptomes and i had crop done on a dead bird a aurtopsy and my birds had no sighn of canker in its crop no sighn of megga or any of cocci i had liver tested for psittacosis.and still waiting on rezults but its not cannker i can tell you now eveyone told me canker it may be a few underlining issues id do the other treatment and poo sample if you treat for canker with turbosole you can treat for docxy at same time for the psittacosis incase its the other read my post on it gb my vet reports on it

I just thought I would update as to what's going on with Big Ted. Well, since I last posted (Nov 24, 09) BT continued to have his funny smell and his watery droppings. Though, following the outcome/diagnosis of the last vet visit I put it down to his 'fatty liver'.Although I never did believe BT was ever a fat bird, as the vet had assumed by looking at him on my last visit, BT lost weight. I could feel this when I handled him. He got thinner, but his droppings didn't change. I also think he became slowly and subtly quieter over the month. Then, over the weekend past, he started regurgitating (not in a happy budgie way). I could see seed come up into his mouth. He did it frequently and seemed distressed when it happened. He would then go over to his feeder and behave ravenously hungry but throw most of the food out of the feeder as if he were trying to look for his favourite piece. Next I could see him regurgitating a cloudy liquid mixed with seed and then he vomited clear liquid which stuck to his head/face feathers. Later he vomited a cloudy sort of liquid into his feeder as he tried to eat. On Monday I took him to the vet who examined him and confirmed he was thin. I described his symptoms and the diagnosis given was psittacosis and suitable meds were prescribed. I enquired after a dropping analysis as well as a throat/crop swab both to confirm psittacosis and to rule out any other cause. The vet said he could send of a sample if I liked but thought starting treatment for psittacosis would be better and also he wasn't sure what diagnostic test was used on a ling bird to detect I got home googled psittacosis and came across the Vetafarm website where they offer dropping analysis for, among other diseases, psittacosis. Luckily, I gave them a call to confirm if it was suitable for me, as a layperson to send my birds droppings for analysis. They were more than helpful and took a history of the situation with BT. After giving history/symptoms etc I was given a different diagnosis of Trichomoniasis – Canker. They were fairly convinced of this and that the bird should be treated for Canker and not psittacosis. They recommended a crop/throat swab to confirm it.I then had the uncomfortable job of contacting my vet who was really good about it and said he would go with their diagnosis as they were the bird specialists. He is unable to carry out a throat swab though.I am still going to send off the droppings 'just in case' and to rule out all other factors. Meds for Canker will be here tomorrow morning, thank goodness, as BT seems really quiet and overly sleepy.

well mate my birds had same simptomes and i had crop done on a dead bird a aurtopsy and my birds had no sighn of canker in its crop no sighn of megga or any of cocci i had liver tested for psittacosis.and still waiting on rezults but its not cannker i can tell you now eveyone told me canker it may be a few underlining issues id do the other treatment and poo sample if you treat for canker with turbosole you can treat for docxy at same time for the psittacosis incase its the other read my post on it gb my vet reports on it

Oh dear. I will be sure to read your post GenericBlue and I am sorry about your birds. At this stage I am very fearful of BT's survival - he has really gone downhill today and there's nothing I can do until meds arrive tomorrow. Poor little thing. He's still trying to eat though.

Medication arrived to treat BT's suspected canker. It is Vetafarm Ronivet-S (ronidazonle). I am wondering if this can be combined with the Psittavet (Doxycycline hydrochloride) for the psittacosis as in the post I have just read from GenericBlue.

 

BT is not good at all today, he is worse than yesterday but still trying to eat. He only wants to eat the wheat out of a canary mix I have given him. I have tried to tempt him with other foods but all he eats is the wheat. Today he is making a whitstling sound as he breaths, though he has no nasal discharge and is not sneezing at all. He had a good drink of the medicated water about an hour ago but not since. I am so upset as I think he might die the way things are going.

 

If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it as I feel a bit on my own, no vet here seems to know a whole lot about birds and my experience is basic.

Medication arrived to treat BT's suspected canker. It is Vetafarm Ronivet-S (ronidazonle). I am wondering if this can be combined with the Psittavet (Doxycycline hydrochloride) for the psittacosis as in the post I have just read from GenericBlue.

 

BT is not good at all today, he is worse than yesterday but still trying to eat. He only wants to eat the wheat out of a canary mix I have given him. I have tried to tempt him with other foods but all he eats is the wheat. Today he is making a whitstling sound as he breaths, though he has no nasal discharge and is not sneezing at all. He had a good drink of the medicated water about an hour ago but not since. I am so upset as I think he might die the way things are going.

 

If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it as I feel a bit on my own, no vet here seems to know a whole lot about birds and my experience is basic.

i was given a time table of meds you can combine i will look for it and see for you wont be long

 

 

okay

 

 

the awnsers no defenently not

 

nothing can be conbined with ronni vet

Edited January 13, 201015 yr by GenericBlue

okay. Thanks for looking though GenericBlue.

GenericBlue I just wanted to let you know that my bird, Big Ted, has turned the corner to recovery today. I am stunned and almost disbelieving, as yesterday, and particularly lastnight, I was sure he wasn't going to see morning.

 

It was devastating to see him in such a bad way, white liquid dribbling from his mouth and the whistling and crackling sound as he tried to breath. I think he was as close as anything to death. I stayed up with him until midnight and helped him drink some of the Ronivet which I believe was what saved him. When we got up this morning I let my partner go downstairs first as I was too apprehensive as to what I would find. When I heard 'I think he's turned the corner' I could hardly believe it. Of course he's still not 100% but, so, so much better, eating and even a little chattering song this afternoon.

 

I sent his droppings off yesterday for analysis so as to rule out diseases other that canker (I cannot test for canker up here as I was unable to find a vet to do a throat/crop swab).

 

I feel so grateful to the staff at Vetafarm who are analysing BT's droppings and who (it seems pretty much positive) diagnosed my bird over the phone. Needless, to say I am very relieved and a little wiser.

GenericBlue I just wanted to let you know that my bird, Big Ted, has turned the corner to recovery today. I am stunned and almost disbelieving, as yesterday, and particularly lastnight, I was sure he wasn't going to see morning.

 

It was devastating to see him in such a bad way, white liquid dribbling from his mouth and the whistling and crackling sound as he tried to breath. I think he was as close as anything to death. I stayed up with him until midnight and helped him drink some of the Ronivet which I believe was what saved him. When we got up this morning I let my partner go downstairs first as I was too apprehensive as to what I would find. When I heard 'I think he's turned the corner' I could hardly believe it. Of course he's still not 100% but, so, so much better, eating and even a little chattering song this afternoon.

 

I sent his droppings off yesterday for analysis so as to rule out diseases other that canker (I cannot test for canker up here as I was unable to find a vet to do a throat/crop swab).

 

I feel so grateful to the staff at Vetafarm who are analysing BT's droppings and who (it seems pretty much positive) diagnosed my bird over the phone. Needless, to say I am very relieved and a little wiser.

 

this is fantastic news

and just goes to show vet even at time yiu think its to far is worth it or knowledgeable people in you case

great news mate

im afraid mine tested nil for canker but were treated anyway