Hi all, I realise that show budgies are large, but how large? Can anyone tell me how long a bird should be before it might realistically be a contender? And how are they to be measured considering tail feathers can reduce overall length heaps by falling out? I am thinking that "Eagle" may have been mistakenly culled and who knows? I might have a "sleeper". This has been on my mind for a while now...He has no problem being held so if anyone can tell me what measurements I should look to exceed and where to measure I would greatly appreciate it. He would have turned one at the beginning of november if that helps. thanks, Richo

A show budgie isnt just about a measurement, a length........... its breeding, having a legring, and having overall features that make it a show bird. Its not like with horses........so many hands high is a pony and so many hands high is considered a horse. Its much more.

Edited January 5, 201015 yr by KAZ

Well National winners of certain dominant varieties do have an 'ideal' length ... can't remember off the top of my head ... maybe 22 inches?

 

However, I heard via the water cooler that one of our top breeders has a picture of the Aussie standard bird and culls birds that do not meet it .... not sure how much truth there is in that

 

But as Kaz says, as important as Length is, there are other qualities such as deportment, shoulders, backscull, feather quality, etc. that need to be considered too. :hi:

Well National winners of certain dominant varieties do have an 'ideal' length ... can't remember off the top of my head ... maybe 22 inches?

 

:hi: dont you means cms ?

Edited January 5, 201015 yr by KAZ

Well National winners of certain dominant varieties do have an 'ideal' length ... can't remember off the top of my head ... maybe 22 inches?

 

:hi: dont you means cms ?

 

I really hope it is centimetres, otherwise not just my birds, but kaz's birds, renee's birds, ***, birds of a lot of top breeders that I have seen, are going to fail to meet the desired length requirements.

 

Maybe if i crossbred my budgies with, I don't know, a flamingo -

Thankyou, o.k. 22 cms, would that be from the tip of the tail to the top of his head?

I believe so

Thankyou, o.k. 22 cms, would that be from the tip of the tail to the top of his head?

22 cms does not make a show budgie unfortunately or we would all be at the nationals with every long bird we had.

I think Richo obviously realises that a lot goes into a show budgie.

 

His first thing he is looking at is the length.

 

Richo, if you think that the bird in your avatar is a show budgie, and might have been accidently culled, then you need to think again.

Maybe if i crossbred my budgies with, I don't know, a flamingo - :hi:

 

THAT would be one massive gangly legged long necked budgie!! Hahahaha I wonder how you'd get them to perform the mating ritual Least if it were purely based on size, you'd have a winner!

 

Back on topic though, I have wondered what the requirements for showing is too, though i'm no where near that stage yet.

well 22 cm is still long i think you will find its 12 cm from cere to tail tip anything more is a bonus

but i cant remember i will get out the book and come back

The ideal length of a budgie is 240mm that's what the standard says, which is 24cm from head to the tip of the tail.

The bird should be sleek and clean with no signs of injury or disease. It should be perfectly balanced and steady on the perch at an angle of 30 degrees from the vertical.

 

This is one of my show birds I don't know if you can see clear enough but you can see she sits right and she has alovely head and plenty of feather with good denisty, she has directly feather her only down fall is that she is a cinnamon opaline spangle so she is classed as bad variety but I have won a lot with her. Judges don't like opaline or cinnamon spangles well not around here. She is the bird in my avitar.

 

this is her dad and he is an outstanding bird but again his problem is he has bad green suffusion but still I have won a lot with him. I hope this gives you a bit of an idea

Edited January 5, 201015 yr by splat

That photo was at around twelve weeks and at the time I believe he was stretching, hence the interesting shot.[i thought so] I suppose he is pretty much in that proportion, albeit much bigger. Dave, thank you for your honesty, I suppose it is easy to become delusional waking to such an exquisite [in my eyes] creature each day...

The ideal length of a budgie is 240mm that's what the standard says, which is 24cm from head to the tip of the tail.

The bird should be sleek and clean with no signs of injury or disease. It should be perfectly balanced and steady on the perch at an angle of 30 degrees from the vertical.

There you go, I knew someone would know for sure! :hi: 24cm that sounds right!

The ideal length of a budgie is 240mm that's what the standard says, which is 24cm from head to the tip of the tail.

The bird should be sleek and clean with no signs of injury or disease. It should be perfectly balanced and steady on the perch at an angle of 30 degrees from the vertical.

There you go, I knew someone would know for sure! 24cm that sounds right!

 

beter than my 12 cm lol

im glad i dont go by that book i was going to go get a tape measure and measure a bird as i thought i must have monsters by the book :hi:

dont know where it got 12 from infact im sure it said 10 cm long

 

thank you splat for clearing that up

also rico the avatar is small as so

really ......but his markings do sugest pet breeding as he looks like a compositive pied by what i can see which isnt much to tell truth

i got pets as big as shows but they dont have all the other stuff to go with it

That photo was at around twelve weeks and at the time I believe he was stretching, hence the interesting shot.[i thought so] I suppose he is pretty much in that proportion, albeit much bigger. Dave, thank you for your honesty, I suppose it is easy to become delusional waking to such an exquisite [in my eyes] creature each day...

 

Richo,

 

I did nto base my judgement on size alone. I based it on head shape, on colours, and mutations, as well as size. Even for a young bird, body shape is all wrong.

 

I know he is stretching, but the front of the head does not change that much.

 

Post a picture of him now. That is the easiest way to show us all.

Wow Splatt, those shots look amazing, can more people post pictures of ribbon winners please? A picture really does tell a story... would love to see a show winner same variety as "Eagle"

Wow Splatt, those shots look amazing, can more people post pictures of ribbon winners please? A picture really does tell a story... would love to see a show winner same variety as "Eagle"

 

what is eagle mutation rico

"Eagle" is a harlequin

"Eagle" is a harlequin

No such mutation. It is a made up name for a recessive pied also known as danish pied.

"Eagle" is a harlequin

No such mutation. It is a made up name for a recessive pied also known as danish pied.

 

usually of the sky blue gf typeing

it is a true name kaz im sorry to start this but.....

 

its just very old school

like larruel ..as in green and white wing as in clear wing

 

Harlequin is just a nother name for par blue rec pied or danish pied as you said

 

or golden face rec pied sky blue

 

harlequin was the given name due to the mix of colors

 

so ...although the turm is not used now

it still is a turm for them just one most show breeders hate sorry if your going to tell meim wrong

cause im right but who cares its corent name is as you stated

 

 

a...... gf skyblue danish or receive pied

it was begain to be used to easily distinguish between breeders blue based no gf birds and their blue based gf birds of rec pied typeing so you are tecnacally right it was made up fort that reason

Edited January 5, 201015 yr by GenericBlue

"Eagle" is a harlequin

No such mutation. It is a made up name for a recessive pied also known as danish pied.

 

usually of the sky blue gf typeing

it is a true name kaz im sorry to start this but.....

 

its just very old school

like larruel ..as in green and white wing as in clear wing

 

Harlequin is just a nother name for par blue rec pied or danish pied as you said

 

or golden face rec pied sky blue

 

harlequin was the given name due to the mix of colors

 

so ...although the turm is not used now

it still is a turm for them just one most show breeders hate sorry if your going to tell meim wrong

cause im right but who cares its corent name is as you stated

 

 

a...... gf skyblue danish or receive pied

it was begain to be used to easily distinguish between breeders blue based no gf birds and their blue based gf birds of rec pied typeing so you are tecnacally right it was made up fort that reason

 

 

okay mate

If you go to the standards book

it has the standard size for a budgie

& all the the other standards.But

like all things,people interput the standard

through there eyes.

I am thinking that "Eagle" may have been mistakenly culled and who knows? I might have a "sleeper". This has been on my mind for a while now...

 

 

Just wondering Richo......WHY exactly you think he may be a show budgie cull ?

"Eagle" is a harlequin

No such mutation. It is a made up name for a recessive pied also known as danish pied.

 

usually of the sky blue gf typeing

it is a true name kaz im sorry to start this but.....

 

its just very old school

like larruel ..as in green and white wing as in clear wing

 

Harlequin is just a nother name for par blue rec pied or danish pied as you said

 

or golden face rec pied sky blue

 

harlequin was the given name due to the mix of colors

 

so ...although the turm is not used now

it still is a turm for them just one most show breeders hate sorry if your going to tell meim wrong

cause im right but who cares its corent name is as you stated

 

 

a...... gf skyblue danish or receive pied

it was begain to be used to easily distinguish between breeders blue based no gf birds and their blue based gf birds of rec pied typeing so you are tecnacally right it was made up fort that reason

 

 

okay mate

 

we will just agree to disagree then hay as i stated you are right it was made up but for the reason stated above