Here is the basic design of the aviary its dimensions are 3.6m x 3.6m and is 2.4m High

 

 

There will be a security door, 600mm x 600m in the front left corner. (not pictured)

 

The back will be fully colorbond and each side will be half colorbond and half wire. This is explained with colour in the paint picture.

 

The roof will be half colorbond and half wire in line with the sides. The colorbond area will be insulated with some spare insulation sheets leftover from doing my house to keep em cool. A shade cloth will also be used to prevent even more heat.

 

$392 The concrete 4m x 4m x 100mm thick from shop $332 delivered plus $60 hire for mixer (may be getting cheaper through a friend)

$201 Wooden beams 18 lengths 2.4m + 16 lengths 3.6 m

$098 Aviary Wire 30m x 1.2m with gaps 12.7mm x 12.7mm

$060 6 Fibro panels for roof (insulation free)

$282 20 Colorbond panels 1.8m x 600mm

$1033 Total Cost (however looking for longer colorbond panels for walls) so likely to increase $30-$40

Plus additional costs which will be added later on such as breeding room, and perches

 

What are your thoughts?

Great space

 

Couple of thoughts.....

 

1. if you colourbond the front and sides up from ground 2 ft you will stop mice running through. YES mice do get through that size mesh.

 

2. mesh of that size catches feathers...I was told this valuable piece of info AFTER I meshed mine with some of that size mesh. Wont vacuum off or brush off easily, Burns off with hand held blowtorch. What guage mesh have you chosen ....try and go OVER 1mm into the 1.4 or more. The thin guage stuff ( inder 1mm ) from bunnings etc is very fine and hard on their feet, and does actually get opened up by hawks very easily.

I sourced my own mesh via a mesh suppler not the hardware store and was way cheaper.

 

3. Wood ? What type ? and will birds be able to chew it ? Metal c channel from bunnings 3 metres lengths is around $6-$7 a length.

 

 

Try sourcing your colourbond through a salvage yard or recycle at the tip...you can get new sheets for very little money there and all they may have is a few scratches easily touched up by a matching colour spraycan.

 

Edited December 16, 200915 yr by KAZ

okay Im going to get some mice proof wire for around the bottom up 2 ft. How did you find the mesh suppliers?

 

The wood I havee lined up is untreated pine yes the birds will be able to chew on the wood. However i can make it so they dont get the opportunity.

 

I am going to look around recycling yards for the colorbond. Just got a price from bunnings.

Edited December 16, 200915 yr by Rodiss

okay Im going to get some mice proof wire for around the bottom up 2 ft.

Wont work......its like giving the mice a ladder to climb up to where they can get through.

 

How did you find the mesh suppliers?

I let my fingers do the walking......through the yellow pages or online phone directory

The wood I havee lined up is untreated pine yes the birds will be able to chew on the wood. However i can make it so they dont get the opportunity.

 

I am going to look around recycling yards for the colorbond. Just got a price from bunnings.

Here is the basic design of the aviary its dimensions are 3.6m x 3.6m and is 2.4m High

 

 

There will be a security door, 600mm x 600m in the front left corner. (not pictured)

 

The back will be fully colorbond and each side will be half colorbond and half wire. This is explained with colour in the paint picture.

 

The roof will be half colorbond and half wire in line with the sides. The colorbond area will be insulated with some spare insulation sheets leftover from doing my house to keep em cool. A shade cloth will also be used to prevent even more heat.

 

$392 The concrete 4m x 4m x 100mm thick from shop $332 delivered plus $60 hire for mixer (may be getting cheaper through a friend)

$201 Wooden beams 18 lengths 2.4m + 16 lengths 3.6 m

$098 Aviary Wire 30m x 1.2m with gaps 12.7mm x 12.7mm

$060 6 Fibro panels for roof (insulation free)

$282 20 Colorbond panels 1.8m x 600mm

$1033 Total Cost (however looking for longer colorbond panels for walls) so likely to increase $30-$40

Plus additional costs which will be added later on such as breeding room, and perches

 

What are your thoughts?

Sounds pretty good. If you have access it could work out easier to use pre mixed concrete, delivered to site you just have to spread it. We worked it out to be nearly as cheap as getting your own gravel,sand cement etc. plus the labour not an easy job.Been there done that!! If you have it all boxed up you could lay it in a couple of hours.

Also, 100mm isnt necessary for a shed or aviary. I was going to do 100mm but a bigger better show budgie breeder who has been a builder all his life said I only needed 75mm and so did the concrete guys. Less concrete....cheaper too

Edited December 17, 200915 yr by KAZ

Here is the basic design of the aviary its dimensions are 3.6m x 3.6m and is 2.4m High

 

 

There will be a security door, 600mm x 600m in the front left corner. (not pictured)

 

The back will be fully colorbond and each side will be half colorbond and half wire. This is explained with colour in the paint picture.

 

The roof will be half colorbond and half wire in line with the sides. The colorbond area will be insulated with some spare insulation sheets leftover from doing my house to keep em cool. A shade cloth will also be used to prevent even more heat.

 

$392 The concrete 4m x 4m x 100mm thick from shop $332 delivered plus $60 hire for mixer (may be getting cheaper through a friend)

$201 Wooden beams 18 lengths 2.4m + 16 lengths 3.6 m

$098 Aviary Wire 30m x 1.2m with gaps 12.7mm x 12.7mm

$060 6 Fibro panels for roof (insulation free)

$282 20 Colorbond panels 1.8m x 600mm

$1033 Total Cost (however looking for longer colorbond panels for walls) so likely to increase $30-$40

Plus additional costs which will be added later on such as breeding room, and perches

 

What are your thoughts?

I like your vision.

 

As Kaz has mentioned there are cheaper ways of doing things so long as you give yourself a little time to source the materials. Personally I went with the "snake and mouse proof" wire from Bunnings and I have yet to find any evidence of mice inside both the aviaries we built - that gives me peace of mind - but it is more expensive then going direct to the wholesaler and I do think it is a bit more flimsy.

hmmm it makes sense that the mice proof wire does could in handy as a ladder for mice. That is something I shall have a think about.

 

If i have the untreated pine wood structure on the inside of the cage what can i put in to prevent the birds getting to it?

 

I got a half quote from my friend and he is gunna do it for material cost if i provide some labor to help him. he thinks maybe $260-$280 delivered just gotta pile it in. the colorbond at the moment i have found a little cheaper but still searching so might be creeping under the $1000 dollar mark.

 

Also with the concrete I intend on moving the aviary with me when i get my own house. So I want 100 mm thick so dad can use the slab to put a shed on it. Unless he grows attached to it, then i get to plan a whole new aviary.

 

I have planned to call around for materials all week but keep getting distracted with every one else... Especially watching the budgies hehe.

If i have the untreated pine wood structure on the inside of the cage what can i put in to prevent the birds getting to it?

 

Well I used untreated pine to make my aviaries and I painted it with non-toxic paint to ensure its longevity - However, my budgies still like to give it a good chew ... to no ill effects though cause it is safe.

Unless your Dad is driving a car over the slab you dont need 100mm. 75mm is fine for any shed. My concrete guys said so and mine was 6m by 4.3m. Colourbond sheets I bought new from recycle part of the rubbish tip and the salvage yard varied between $5-$7 a sheet. If your wood is inside and you dont want the budgies chewing it, just wrap the wood with leftover aviary mesh.

If i have the untreated pine wood structure on the inside of the cage what can i put in to prevent the birds getting to it?

Well I used untreated pine to make my aviaries and I painted it with non-toxic paint to ensure its longevity - However, my budgies still like to give it a good chew ... to no ill effects though cause it is safe. :grbud:

Most paint is toxic to budgies ( and that can be compared to quantities ingested too ).......unless you bought child safe paint. The green paint you used is normal fence paint, water based, I believe.My budgies chew the paint in my aviary too. Wish I hadnt painted some surfaces........I may yet cover them....the ones they get at anyway

Edited December 17, 200915 yr by KAZ

If i have the untreated pine wood structure on the inside of the cage what can i put in to prevent the birds getting to it?

Well I used untreated pine to make my aviaries and I painted it with non-toxic paint to ensure its longevity - However, my budgies still like to give it a good chew ... to no ill effects though cause it is safe. :grbud:

Most paint is toxic to budgies ( and that can be compared to quantities ingested too ).......unless you bought child safe paint. The green paint you used is normal fence paint, water based, I believe.My budgies chew the paint in my aviary too. Wish I hadnt painted some surfaces........I may yet cover them....the ones they get at anyway

Yes, that's the stuff - child proof paint.

Unless your Dad is driving a car over the slab you dont need 100mm. 75mm is fine for any shed. My concrete guys said so and mine was 6m by 4.3m. Colourbond sheets I bought new from recycle part of the rubbish tip and the salvage yard varied between $5-$7 a sheet. If your wood is inside and you dont want the budgies chewing it, just wrap the wood with leftover aviary mesh.

If i have the untreated pine wood structure on the inside of the cage what can i put in to prevent the birds getting to it?

Well I used untreated pine to make my aviaries and I painted it with non-toxic paint to ensure its longevity - However, my budgies still like to give it a good chew ... to no ill effects though cause it is safe. :grbud:

Most paint is toxic to budgies ( and that can be compared to quantities ingested too ).......unless you bought child safe paint. The green paint you used is normal fence paint, water based, I believe.My budgies chew the paint in my aviary too. Wish I hadnt painted some surfaces........I may yet cover them....the ones they get at anyway

 

yes kaz im in middle of covering wood painted with a mixed batch of thind down paint

my dad used

i have lost birds resently and i belive its to poisioning

im getting all wood removed and replaced with untreated pine this week end and am covering all painted framework with metal plates washing it down thoroghly and putting a metal edgeing along the bottom of my newly paved terracota tiles as so birds can not get damp edging

im a fraid birds may of had cocci or poisioning or both its undesided as yet so doing proventitive for both will find out soon which it was or if both

but better to cover it now and be safe before returning birds to flight

yes kaz im in middle of covering wood painted with a mixed batch of thind down paint

my dad used

i have lost birds resently and i belive its to poisioning

im getting all wood removed and replaced with untreated pine this week end and am covering all painted framework with metal plates washing it down thoroghly and putting a metal edgeing along the bottom of my newly paved terracota tiles as so birds can not get damp edging

im a fraid birds may of had cocci or poisioning or both its undesided as yet so doing proventitive for both will find out soon which it was or if both

but better to cover it now and be safe before returning birds to flight

Ooooooh, that's no good Have you done a post motum to check for sure?

A couple of things have happened since my last post but the aviary construction has begun.

 

I am going to get concrete delivered some time in the next two weeks, maybe/hopefully this saturday. but i have already leveled off the area for the slab to be put in. So here are the photos of the job waiting for the cement.

From afar

Closer up

 

 

The birds watching construction take place (lol)

Edited December 29, 200915 yr by Rodiss

A couple of things have happened since my last post but the aviary construction has begun.

 

I am going to get concrete delivered some time in the next two weeks, maybe/hopefully this saturday. but i have already leveled off the area for the slab to be put in. So here are the photos of the job waiting for the cement.

From afar

Good position!

Looking good............will be a decent size wont it

love the birds veiw pissa :rofl:

Here is the basic design of the aviary its dimensions are 3.6m x 3.6m and is 2.4m High

 

 

There will be a security door, 600mm x 600m in the front left corner. (not pictured)

 

 

What are your thoughts?

Since I have seen your location of the aviary..................why have the security door inside the main section ?

You have the right sized gap at the right of the aviary between it and the Shed ? Garage? carport ? Why not make an external security door section on the right hand side ? Even the full length of it back of that area could be used for storage.

 

Just a thought

Edited December 29, 200915 yr by KAZ

I have 1 suggestion, and that is to have a covered roof because other wise you will get wild birds pooping in your aviary and infecting your birds.

 

What do others think?

Job Finished and birds are currently loving their new home.

I officially had finished on sunday releasing my 6 original budgeys and my quarantined birds went in monday. I will give a detail price list once i sort out all my dockets, but yeah all is looking good. Here are a couple of pics.

 

Tha back wall

 

The Frame

 

First Use (obviously didnt have quite enough straw)

 

Birds enjoying the dowel perch i had hanging up (now a ladder because I found some nice branches)

 

The finished product

This is a picture with only 8 budgeys and 13 quails within the cage as it stands at the moment. (plus 4 more birds)

A really nice large space...................good height too

Its height is 2.4m at the front and 2.34m at the rear, also with the remaining dementions being 3.6m x 3.6m what would be a safe & good number of budgeys to have within the aviary keeping in mind colony breeding will be attempted around september until early november, before backing off due to heat.

 

I will attemp breeding the 2 pairs that are over a year old at the moment in seperate cages in the coming months. Also may be getting a few experienced pairs from my cousin who may have to move house, which ill do the same with.

Wow that is huge, I love it. Well done.

Its height is 2.4m at the front and 2.34m at the rear, also with the remaining dementions being 3.6m x 3.6m what would be a safe & good number of budgeys to have within the aviary keeping in mind colony breeding will be attempted around september until early november, before backing off due to heat.

 

I will attemp breeding the 2 pairs that are over a year old at the moment in seperate cages in the coming months. Also may be getting a few experienced pairs from my cousin who may have to move house, which ill do the same with.

I wont advise you on nunbers if you are colony breeding............a search on thsi forum will show how what a bad idea that is to do. Even recently members have had disasters occur due to colony breeding. AND you wont be home 24 hours a day to watch and take immediate steps should things go horribly wrong will you ?

Buy or build some breeder cages.............less chance of damaged eggs and or killed chicks.

Edited January 26, 201015 yr by KAZ

Well with breeding boxes is it safe to put them within the aviary? or would i need to make a seperate room for them?