Thank you, Spooky. I have been told about the milk thistle, and I'm looking into finding it. I will also have to check about the amino acids, too then.

 

Hey Finnie,

just don't buy milk-thistle-seeds, which are very fatty. It really needs to be the extract. I do not know, if it is called "Silymarin" in English, too. Usually this is sold for humans in capsules. You can open these capsules and give some of the powder over the seeds. Its hard do overdose. Healthy birds can eat it, too. (like all the other things I named)

Alle the best,

Sandra

It is called sylmarin in English, too. I will look for capsules, then. I was under the impression it was a liquid and I would have to be very careful with the dose. Powder form sounds safer.

 

I was also told that apple cider vinegar would help, too, since it has vitamins and helpful enzymes.

As far as I know, the liquid forms of silymarin are usually with alcohol, which ist not so good for the liver, especially if its already damaged a bit.

 

I never heard, apple vinegar would benefit the liver? If anyone does, I'd be interested, too!

In Germany some people are using this to minimize pathogenes (right word?) in the drinking water, like e.g. trichomonasias (not to cure, just preventive!) - And it is usually used if you have a bird with megabacteria. But for other reasons I never heard. After all it should do no harm. Just, as far as I know, vingar should not be mixed with amino acids.

 

 

Kind regards,

Sandra

As far as I know, the liquid forms of silymarin are usually with alcohol, which ist not so good for the liver, especially if its already damaged a bit.

I remember now, the information said to make sure there was no alcohol in it.

I never heard, apple vinegar would benefit the liver? If anyone does, I'd be interested, too!

In Germany some people are using this to minimize pathogenes (right word?) in the drinking water, like e.g. trichomonasias (not to cure, just preventive!) - And it is usually used if you have a bird with megabacteria. But for other reasons I never heard. After all it should do no harm. Just, as far as I know, vingar should not be mixed with amino acids.

I guess there are a lot of claims of how great ACV is for everything under the sun! Personally, I use it when I chop their apples up, to keep them from turning brown. So my birds have been getting it all along.

 

I have to be going to the pharmacy today for a prescription, so I will ask about the milk thistle and about amino acids. (Not about bird questions, just if they have the stuff. )

 

 

 

Kind regards,

Sandra

I won't take amino acids from the pharmacy. I'm sure there are plenty of products for you to get which are especially developd for birds. Amino acids can be overdosed and at least I won't know how to dose a human product in this case on birds.

Especially important should be Methionin.

If you really don't find a bird-product you could maybe use spirulina or "brewers yeast", which you can get both as a powder.

Best wishes,

Sandra

Ausgezeichnet, Sandra! When you mentioned bird formulated product, it got me to check the labels on the stuff I have been giving them. This 'Zoo Med's Avian Plus' has a lot of amino acids, including Methionine! Danke zehr!

 

Oops, I'm a little distracted today by my first ever chickie, and I forgot to add the picture of the Zoo Med! :rofl:

 

 

 

 

Edited January 4, 201015 yr by Finnie

I let about four weeks go by this time before I trimmed Sorcha's beak. It got quite long:

 

 

I was a little overconfident on my 3rd time trimming, and I accidentally cut too short. Barely at all, but it did bleed a little. Right away I put black pepper on it (didn't have white handy) and I think that helped it to not bleed much. The next photo shows it with blood and pepper. It's not a pretty sight. But within a couple of hours, she looked clean and fine again.

 

Next time I will have a better feel for how short is too short, so I'm sure it will be okay. Might just be happy to leave it a little long, next time.

 

Here's the after photo:

 

 

 

 

 

Don't worry, it's been several day since this photo was taken, and she is fine, eating as normal, doing well, for her. (She's always quiet and doesn't play much.)

Often with our birds, there is a large learning process. You are doing well, fear not.

I was under the imrpession the longer you leave it go between trimming, the longer beak gets a blood supply further down into the beak. If this is true then leaving it too long between trims may not be a good thing.

I was under the imrpession the longer you leave it go between trimming, the longer beak gets a blood supply further down into the beak. If this is true then leaving it too long between trims may not be a good thing.

 

Sorry, I just meant not to trim it quite so short so that I get into the blood. That kind of "longer" :rofl:

 

I do think I'm getting a feel for it. I could tell that the last cut I made "felt" different than when I was clipping the dry, dead part. Next time I think I will be better at leaving a small margin. Thanks for the encouragement, Dave! :rofl:

I let about four weeks go by this time before I trimmed Sorcha's beak. It got quite long:

 

This is what I meant when I said laft it longer to trim between beak trimmings :rofl:

I was referring to the four weeks.

Edited February 6, 201015 yr by KAZ

I let about four weeks go by this time before I trimmed Sorcha's beak. It got quite long:

 

This is what I meant when I said laft it longer to trim between beak trimmings :laughter:

I was referring to the four weeks.

 

 

Oh, gotcha!

 

I agree, 3 weeks seems like a better time period.

Hi Finnie just wondering how Scorcha's beak condition is going.