I have an opinion to be asked, thank you in beforehand! :fear

 

So I have these two birds. First one always I supposed to be a recessive pied, but just lately I found out, he has an iris ring. He was already 2 years old when he came to me (ring in his leg is for year 2006) so if he developed the iris ring only just lately, that's quite old, or then I just haven't noticed it, him having so typical recessive pied looks. Also the pink cere is kind of misleading, being so pink. What pied is he? Just weird australian pied?

 

EDIT: So I really just hadn't noticed it, even in those 2 years old pics he already has that iris ring. Funny really I have not seen it before!

 

 

Then I have this spangle, I think is just a badly marked one. Then I thought I have no experience on clearwings, could he match?? He looks messy because I had been treating him with paraffine oil for the mites in his beak and legs.

 

 

 

Edited November 18, 200915 yr by falki

that first bird has a red ring thats only o9 so im not sure where you get 06 from unless your in another country

 

funny anough i was chatting to rip this morn about conternental clear flights (dutch pied )

although she did say their markings are on top half more is it posable hes that ????

my only other guess is a mixed pied eg from a dom /rec breeding to a rec pied or a split rec pied

 

but i really dont know these just guesses

cant help on other one

wasnt much help anyway lol

Edited November 18, 200915 yr by KAZ

that first bird has a red ring thats only o9 so im not sure where you get 06 from unless your in another country

 

the member is from FINLAND GB

Yes, I'm from Finland and the ring colour red is 2006 in A.C. Hughes (UK) rings. He came to me march 2008 and was bought in a pet shop summer 2007 when he was told to be about 6 months old.

 

I tought about that split thing happening between a dom pied and a rec pied and sorry again calling a dominant pied "australian" before, it is called such here :fear

funny anough i was chatting to rip this morn about conternental clear flights (dutch pied )

although she did say their markings are on top half more is it posable hes that ????

 

Dutch pied has the markings on the lower half, not top. My bird is indeed like a copy of a dutch pied, but I have never ever seen more than one photo of a dutch pied, that one old too, so I really doubt I could have one, here in Finland...?? :fear

 

What is sad, is that I haven't been able to have any babies from him, only two empty rounds, tho with a same hen. He's now on a new try round after a years pause with a new, eager and experienced hen, so we will see. Dutch pied is a dominant gene, so this could finally give away who he really is.