When I got him on the 18th of the 8th, Zorion looked like this.

 

 

 

He had no bars on his head, had a faint iris ring, and his cere was pretty much all pink with some blue. Now he looks like this, about the same but with a white iris ring and his cere is slowly turning blue.

 

 

About how old does he look? I'm guessing he'd be about 6 months old now, making him around 4 months in the first picture..

 

Now he looks a whole lot less babyish and is flirting madly and mating with one of the females in the aviary, and based on that, his iris ring and how he looked before I think that he was about 3-4 months old in the first picture.

 

Also, how old does this bird look? She looked like this when I got her, on the 14th of the 5th:

 

 

 

And is like this now:

 

 

I'm thinking about 1 and 1/2, 2 years old, but I really don't have much of an idea..Got her from the petshop so no clue as to when she was born.

 

Opinions? Also, are either/both of them old enough to breed? I know Ashley (ino girl) would be, but I'm not sure about Zorion, I think he is too young, yes?

 

Edited October 27, 200915 yr by Jen144

They all look between 3-6 months to me

Edited October 27, 200915 yr by **Liv**

i would want to say how old when you got her,... she is no older than 9 months though

as for cock i think take a month off say 4 to 5 now five months is my guess he is still very young looking

So the male is 5 months and the female is 9 months..you mean 9 months now or 9 months when I got her? Can I ask why you say they are those ages, I'm really not sure how to tell other than when they are older than 3 months!

So the male is 5 months and the female is 9 months..you mean 9 months now or 9 months when I got her? Can I ask why you say they are those ages, I'm really not sure how to tell other than when they are older than 3 months!

 

well i say the hen is only 9 months now not when you got her

reason i say this is that the yellow is much brighter suggesting she has had a molt

the first picture you can see shes just coming out of one and i can tell that she is no more than 3 months their so when you look at it that way liv is correct she would be 6 months maybe 7 but always go on the youngest guess ( i do )

 

the cock bird looks to be no older than to months when you got him possibly younger as he has molted into his first molt he could not be more than 4 to 5 months again choosing four as the base age

 

that's how i concluded the around about age of them both and taking in their date of purchase

 

 

and i wouldnt be breeding either till this time next year just to be sure

I would say she is older than the cock, and as GB says most likely around 9 months maximum. The cock you said has WHITE iris rings but he doesnt ...they are still beige brownish and his cere isnt full coloured yet. I agree with GB. I wouldnt try and breed them for another 5 months maybe more.

This seems like a good place for me to add some input. Please, I am no expert, but these types of feedback back and forth can help Jenn144 and me (and others) to learn.

 

So here is how I figure my birds' ages:

 

If it has bars all the way to its cere when I buy it, I figure it hasn't had its first moult yet. Then I assume that it was taken from its parents at the youngest possible age (bad breeder- out to make a buck! ) So I figure it is about 1-2 months old. (This is to err on the young side.) Then I wait for it to go into its first moult, and count back 3 months to see if my first guess was close. Then I sort of make an average of the two guesses, as to how old it is. Then I wait for its second moult, and check back to see if the original guesses place it in the 6-9 month range. I will sometimes make an adjustment as to when I think its birthday is, but I still try to err on the young side.

 

If I buy one who already has its cap, and or iris rings, I check it over for pin feathers, and make a guess based on if I think its still in its first moult (3-4 mos), or if I think it's well past it's first moult. (5-6 mos) Then again, I wait for the next moult. If I have to wait a long time, I figure it was young when I bought it, and barely out of it's first moult. If the next moult comes quick, I figure it must have been a little bit older, so maybe almost 6 months old when I bought it.

 

So what do you guys think? Am I on the right track, here? Critiques and pointers would be good for us newbies

This seems like a good place for me to add some input. Please, I am no expert, but these types of feedback back and forth can help Jenn144 and me (and others) to learn.

 

So here is how I figure my birds' ages:

 

If it has bars all the way to its cere when I buy it, I figure it hasn't had its first moult yet. Then I assume that it was taken from its parents at the youngest possible age (bad breeder- out to make a buck! ) So I figure it is about 1-2 months old. (This is to err on the young side.) Then I wait for it to go into its first moult, and count back 3 months to see if my first guess was close. Then I sort of make an average of the two guesses, as to how old it is. Then I wait for its second moult, and check back to see if the original guesses place it in the 6-9 month range. I will sometimes make an adjustment as to when I think its birthday is, but I still try to err on the young side.

 

If I buy one who already has its cap, and or iris rings, I check it over for pin feathers, and make a guess based on if I think its still in its first moult (3-4 mos), or if I think it's well past it's first moult. (5-6 mos) Then again, I wait for the next moult. If I have to wait a long time, I figure it was young when I bought it, and barely out of it's first moult. If the next moult comes quick, I figure it must have been a little bit older, so maybe almost 6 months old when I bought it.

 

So what do you guys think? Am I on the right track, here? Critiques and pointers would be good for us newbies

 

well all birds i buy i ask to hold to check over if i cant do that i dont buy but if hen has no sighn of age i feel to see if she has layed yet .. if yes well thats 6 months straight their

as around here the breeders breed them young sometimes before culling ( crul but they do it )

so then i look at way they sit is it slouched ,tall, is she active so on

if i decide to by i just call her 6 months as that way she is covered

cocks also i look for their masculinity

but its easyer now as i just look for the colour ring with the show birds

and with the pet types well i breed my own hens as you do for show and used same principle

This seems like a good place for me to add some input. Please, I am no expert, but these types of feedback back and forth can help Jenn144 and me (and others) to learn.

 

So here is how I figure my birds' ages:

 

If it has bars all the way to its cere when I buy it, I figure it hasn't had its first moult yet. Then I assume that it was taken from its parents at the youngest possible age (bad breeder- out to make a buck! ) So I figure it is about 1-2 months old. (This is to err on the young side.) Then I wait for it to go into its first moult, and count back 3 months to see if my first guess was close. Then I sort of make an average of the two guesses, as to how old it is. Then I wait for its second moult, and check back to see if the original guesses place it in the 6-9 month range. I will sometimes make an adjustment as to when I think its birthday is, but I still try to err on the young side.

 

If I buy one who already has its cap, and or iris rings, I check it over for pin feathers, and make a guess based on if I think its still in its first moult (3-4 mos), or if I think it's well past it's first moult. (5-6 mos) Then again, I wait for the next moult. If I have to wait a long time, I figure it was young when I bought it, and barely out of it's first moult. If the next moult comes quick, I figure it must have been a little bit older, so maybe almost 6 months old when I bought it.

 

So what do you guys think? Am I on the right track, here? Critiques and pointers would be good for us newbies

 

well all birds i buy i ask to hold to check over if i cant do that i dont buy but if hen has no sighn of age i feel to see if she has layed yet .. if yes well thats 6 months straight their

as around here the breeders breed them young sometimes before culling ( crul but they do it )

so then i look at way they sit is it slouched ,tall, is she active so on

if i decide to by i just call her 6 months as that way she is covered

cocks also i look for their masculinity

but its easyer now as i just look for the colour ring with the show birds

and with the pet types well i breed my own hens as you do for show and used same principle

 

 

Wow, that's interesting. Maybe when I gain some experience, I will be able to tell if a hen has layed, or what signs of masculinity are.

This seems like a good place for me to add some input. Please, I am no expert, but these types of feedback back and forth can help Jenn144 and me (and others) to learn.

 

So here is how I figure my birds' ages:

 

If it has bars all the way to its cere when I buy it, I figure it hasn't had its first moult yet. Then I assume that it was taken from its parents at the youngest possible age (bad breeder- out to make a buck! :glare: ) So I figure it is about 1-2 months old. (This is to err on the young side.) Then I wait for it to go into its first moult, and count back 3 months to see if my first guess was close. Then I sort of make an average of the two guesses, as to how old it is. Then I wait for its second moult, and check back to see if the original guesses place it in the 6-9 month range. I will sometimes make an adjustment as to when I think its birthday is, but I still try to err on the young side.

 

If I buy one who already has its cap, and or iris rings, I check it over for pin feathers, and make a guess based on if I think its still in its first moult (3-4 mos), or if I think it's well past it's first moult. (5-6 mos) Then again, I wait for the next moult. If I have to wait a long time, I figure it was young when I bought it, and barely out of it's first moult. If the next moult comes quick, I figure it must have been a little bit older, so maybe almost 6 months old when I bought it.

 

So what do you guys think? Am I on the right track, here? Critiques and pointers would be good for us newbies

 

well all birds i buy i ask to hold to check over if i cant do that i dont buy but if hen has no sighn of age i feel to see if she has layed yet .. if yes well thats 6 months straight their

as around here the breeders breed them young sometimes before culling ( crul but they do it )

so then i look at way they sit is it slouched ,tall, is she active so on

if i decide to by i just call her 6 months as that way she is covered

cocks also i look for their masculinity

but its easyer now as i just look for the colour ring with the show birds

and with the pet types well i breed my own hens as you do for show and used same principle

 

 

Wow, that's interesting. Maybe when I gain some experience, I will be able to tell if a hen has layed, or what signs of masculinity are.

 

 

basiclly i look at his little balls

around that area

see how developed it is down their

 

also you can tell if a hen has layed more than twice in her life its a bit soft and spungy not to mistaken for tummor or the likes usually the bones are close together if you can place your pointer finger in the pelvic bone area and it fits chances are she has layed

how ever this is just a detumination does not nesaceraly mean she has