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This budgie is beeding o f mine and I had never have know variety, I thought about INO, but eyes are not so many red; Lacewing trhe same; fallow doesn't have any other feather color than yelow, white or cinnamon. Also pictures are recents, she is more than a year old.

 

eyes:_ dark red

 

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bacK: you can see, any other c

olor than yelow, cinnamon or white

 

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down seeing: only yelow

 

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Budgie behind she is her father

 

parents: male dilute sky CA II female malve spit to dilutte

 

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there are three more sisters but they are ot CA only white some with a lot of cinnamon marks and dark red ayes, and an other almost white (the withe on the left.)

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okay this are almost all dates I have.

What do you think about variety?

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this picture here has a rec pied sky blue yf in bottom left

im asumming this has also pink eyes

or not ????

are all these chicks with red eyes hens or cocks also that would help deturmain if they are sexlinkage

ca bird what is this ???is this ring code or you refering to something else ???

two split dilutes will give you dilutes in nest but not all,..how ever it is possible

the bird is yf 2 or could even be australian golden face as if they are diluted it would explain the sea foam colour (the blue turned green)

the pink eyes its possible to have pink eyed pieds but if we could find out if it was sex linked or rececive it would be a good start

so are all the pink eyed chicks hens or are they also cocks ???

 

by way i love the dad im in love :rofl:

 

 

only your in mexico so :D

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This budgie has scalyface mites and needs ivermectin spot on treatment.

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This budgie has scalyface mites and needs ivermectin spot on treatment.

 

Done yesterday, I thought it was because moulting.

 

GB:

 

this picture here has a rec pied sky blue yf in bottom left

im asumming this has also pink eyes

or not ????

No, she hasn't. In this pictures there are there famili kids, one is rec. pied and also YF; the other family on right both sky blue and albino (HE ans SHE respectly) of course ALBINO has red ayes no problem.

And tle one that look with second left to right is a sister of the first budgie I upload (the one with mites, not anymore certainy).

This picture purpose is to compare two white budgies, the very right one is sure albino (not familiar) and the second fom left to right is a siter from an other lay. Diferences within sisters one is YF and the other no, one looks a lot of cinnamon an the other has cinnamon but not so much.

 

are all these chicks with red eyes hens or cocks also that would help deturmain if they are sexlinkage

ca bird what is this ???is this ring code or you refering to something else ???

 

All chicks are sisters (the first YF and an othar three hens look like the one in the last picture) with red eyes an more or less cinamon markings, never a cock neither no markinks.

 

two split dilutes will give you dilutes in nest but not all,

 

but not all? explain what it be?, Mother was split ddo dilutte.

 

 

are all the pink eyed chicks hens or are they also cocks ???

All are females.

 

by way i love the dad im in love wub.gif

me to :)

 

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I didn't undestand this part.

In Mexico people doesn't know a lot of budgies varietis, neither genetics. There is a person who knows a little more than me but I don't know what she thinks. In a Spanish forum one person (taht I think knows a lot about this he talk this birds is 'Merengue' (merigue) a personal word to describe Sky Dilutte cinnamon, I don't agree with the Sky part because if father is a Sky colored and mother was a malve colored she must be cobalt, there isn't another way and also I think that being cobalt (this is sure) if she is dilutted it must see a little ( althought a very very very light) blue on all feathers (because two desmelanin (?)colors in one budgie) but it isn't there's no blue color at any sister (there are 4 sisters, only one FY)

I hope wrote this enought clear.

 

One curious thing: When all fou little ones were at firts growing feathjers, canyons (I don't know idf this is the correct word) saw darks not pinky like them look in albino's canyon.

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I didn't undestand this part.

 

 

I understand it to be that GB meant that she's in love with the "dad".. but a bit sad because you're in Mexico.. and that means she cant have him! :)

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I still think its a YF2 lacewing dilute possibly with some suffusion.

 

The sisters are albinos/lacewings. The father is a dilute YF2 sky blue - going by the chicks he is also split for ino and cinnamon. If the hen is a mauve split dilute then the bird you are looking at would logically be a YF2 dilute lacewing cobalt hen.

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I still think its a YF2 lacewing dilute possibly with some suffusion.

 

The sisters are albinos/lacewings. The father is a dilute YF2 sky blue - going by the chicks he is also split for ino and cinnamon. If the hen is a mauve split dilute then the bird you are looking at would logically be a YF2 dilute lacewing cobalt hen.

 

this make sence my other option if it was not sex linked was fellow yf 2 but cant be that

and if the pied has nothing to do with it then their goes my fellow yf pied thery lol and no thk i ment that being in mexico it couldnt mean it was australian golden face so has to be yf2

but i think you have a good out come with deans anilise of the mutation

 

lacewing yf cobalt dilute :P agreed

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lacewing yf cobalt dilute cool.gif agreed

 

It's reasonable but somethig make me noise, somethig like: If father is split to ino and cinnamon is not posible that gives me inos hens and cinnamon hens ?

 

I understand it to be that GB meant that she's in love with the "dad".. but a bit sad because you're in Mexico.. and that means she cant have him!

 

okay thanks, If you want it you can come and take it.

 

Now wich is next pass to prove this? may be matting with father? or matting with an ino budgie (not familiar)? or what do you recomend?

 

And thank you for spend your time in this post. :rolleyes: :rofl:

i would breed father to a normal hen no other mutation

see what you get

 

and breed a son to a normal hen also

and if you have two boys breed one to a albino hen see what you get their

 

you can over time get lacewings from cinnamon and ino breeding if cross over occurs but im not the one to awnser that mabe dean could help again with that

or someone else with full knolage on the allie gene conection :rolleyes:

lacewing yf cobalt dilute cool.gif agreed

 

It's reasonable but somethig make me noise, somethig like: If father is split to ino and cinnamon is not posible that gives me inos hens and cinnamon hens ?

 

The two genes are seperate. A lacewing cock paired to a normal hen will only produce lacewing hens and cocks split for ino and cinnamon. A cock split for ino and cinnamon should give you ino hens, cinnamon hens, and lacewing hens. Its just luck of the draw that the ino seemed to pop up so much in this clutch but one or two of the sisters also got ino+cinnamon (lacewing).

 

Now wich is next pass to prove this? may be matting with father? or mating with an ino budgie (not familiar)? or what do you recomend?

 

And thank you for spend your time in this post. :rolleyes: :rofl:

 

It depends what you want to do to reproduce this. If you pair her the same hen, you may get more of this particular chick. If you pair her to a dilute blue hen, you will get all dilute chicks, so then all you need to roll the dice on genetically and cross your fingers for is the YF2 and the ino + cinnamon passing on.

 

Alternatively, pair him to a cinnamon hen and if you get any cinnamon cocks you know the cock is split cinnamon.

Pair him to an ino hen, get any ino cocks and you know he is split to ino.

 

Pair him to a lacewing hen and if you get any lacewing cocks, you will know he is split for both ino and cinnamon.

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DEAN_NZ

Alternatively, pair him to a cinnamon hen and if you get any cinnamon cocks you know the cock is split cinnamon.

Pair him to an ino hen, get any ino cocks and you know he is split to ino.

 

I've never thought about this, well, I bought a lutino cock for this lady, but I never thought abou father crossing, This lady mother have died las week.

 

I only have one cinnamon hen but she is recesive pied althought It´s a good Idea next time, because 'Canela' now have two chicks.

 

And also I have a cremino hen (she is Canela daughter).

 

Pair him to a lacewing hen and if you get any lacewing cocks, you will know he is split for both ino and cinnamon

 

I´ve never seen lacewing in Puebla.

 

Now I have one yaer of chicks with MR yelowface II.

 

I'll give you results.

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Yesterday looking for an other bird picture I found this pictures from his father. I really never seen that father is cinnamon (look eyes in this picture). My question is that this change dougther variety. Did you undersatand me?

 

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I dont think the father is cinnamon because he has daughters that are NOT cinnamon. Therefore he could only be split for cinnamon which we already guessed. It doesn't change the daughters variety, I still believe she is what we mentioned above.

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okay you are the experts.

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I dont think the father is cinnamon because he has daughters that are NOT cinnamon. Therefore he could only be split for cinnamon which we already guessed. It doesn't change the daughters variety, I still believe she is what we mentioned above.

 

Hi again...

Sorry about fotgot you more than 2 months.

 

Dean, I'm not sure about firt part of your answer

"I dont think the father is cinnamon because he has daughters that are NOT cinnamon"

I want to make mind but certainly I don't remember but I think all dougters are cinnamon.

Althought she actually has 2 or 3 eggs who are borning next wensday I will rigth news.

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