Renee I am fairly sure you Clearwings have come from the same source as mine. If my assumption is correct the chances of the Clearwings having Cinnamon in them would be almost nil. Changes of there being Dilute in the background, well there is always that chance.

 

Well actually no, NOT the cock bird.

 

I always post this on this forum when there is a bird in nest feather but here I will post it again.

 

A BUDGIE IN NEST FEATHER WILL NOT SHOW FULL COLOUR IN ANY FEATHER AS THE FEATHER IS NOT FULLY MATURED!

 

From the photos provided the bird looks like a Clearwing Light Green. I would also say that if the markings are that pronounced as a baby they will be darker once it moults.

 

okay

 

Also forget the damn standard when trying to classify any bird. The standard is a guide produced with a set of parameters to aid in the classifcation of a bird in relation to showing. It can be used as a rough guide but that's all. As far as some varieties as concerned it causes more problems than it solves.

 

Good point.

This is a Cinnamon Clearwing Light Green hen. Note the cheek patches are paler than for a Clearwing and a Cinnamon. There are also no cinnamon markings evident in this photo, although if you could look closer you would have found a slight brownish hue to the flights and tail feathers. Also this bird is in fully matured feather.

 

Edited September 30, 200915 yr by RIPbudgies

the birds on this reply are nubbly5 i am gust using these as example

 

normal clearwing

 

This is a dilute version of the violet.

 

This is one of his full colour siblings in dark green.

 

And this is another one of his siblings this time a diluted dark green (or olive).

 

Out of a nest of seven chicks 4 were dilutes and 3 were full coloured - bred from an olive clearwing cock to a dark green clearwing hen. You can imagine my surprise - first year into breeding clearwings - when these popped out. My idea of dilutes were what you would normally see with wing markings so I was very perplexed about these and started asking around. From what I understand these are dilutes but with their wing markings modified by the clearwing. Almost another arguement for a co-dominant trait like the full body colour greywings now breeding as 100% greywings but with a full body colour.

 

you tell me what you think

Edited September 30, 200915 yr by shannon bird breeder

Can't help with the mutation Renee ....but I must say he/she is the sweetest little budgie!!

 

the birds on this reply are nubbly5 i am gust using these as example

 

normal clearwing

 

This is a dilute version of the violet.

 

This is one of his full colour siblings in dark green.

 

And this is another one of his siblings this time a diluted dark green (or olive).

 

Out of a nest of seven chicks 4 were dilutes and 3 were full coloured - bred from an olive clearwing cock to a dark green clearwing hen. You can imagine my surprise - first year into breeding clearwings - when these popped out. My idea of dilutes were what you would normally see with wing markings so I was very perplexed about these and started asking around. From what I understand these are dilutes but with their wing markings modified by the clearwing. Almost another arguement for a co-dominant trait like the full body colour greywings now breeding as 100% greywings but with a full body colour.

 

 

Love the photos, thanks for sharing

Just cooking my dinner when I remembered what I was gonna to add to my post before and forget.

 

If the cock is split for Cinnamon he will only produce a Cinnamon hen. The youngster in the photo looks like a cock bird. Also the bird would have had a plum in when born. Keep your eye out on the next round for any eye colour differences.

and kaz you delited my point and i lost it ......the plot woops all its time for me to go now

owch bye

 

Sorry about the edit, but what you posted was without quote tags and it had member info all mixed through so it didnt make sense...the quote thing cant have worked properly for you. ....came out all jumbled.

and kaz you delited my point and i lost it ......the plot woops all its time for me to go now

owch bye

 

Sorry about the edit, but what you posted was without quote tags and it had member info all mixed through so it didnt make sense...the quote thing cant have worked properly for you. ....came out all jumbled.

 

i tottally understand i just look more stupid writting my case when what i was refering to was gone :rofl: :rofl: but honestly really you get that im all good wasnt really pissed just sometimes things come across nasty but coms dont have faces so the real emotion is not their just little cute things

and behind sences i actually got an apoligy she knows who she is

thanks and im sorry to kaz your good just doing your job

I am not sure Dave where you got clearwings cheek patches are light?

 

I have no problem with being corrected Elly when I am wrong, but you have misinterpreted what I typed here.

 

I said there is no way this bird is a clearwing as the cheek patches are light. If you read this correctly, I am saying it is NOT a clearwing as clearwings have violet cheek patches.

 

 

 

And vice versa, I apologize for not reading it correctly.

 

Misinterpretation on the www is a lot more common than people think. Easier to misinterpret what a person types, as opposed to waht they say inthe real world.

I mentioned that too RIP, that unless it was a hen it could not be a cinnamon . I think waiting it out watching this bird mature if it is a hen would be best. Beautiful birds.

I am not sure Dave where you got clearwings cheek patches are light?

 

I have no problem with being corrected Elly when I am wrong, but you have misinterpreted what I typed here.

 

I said there is no way this bird is a clearwing as the cheek patches are light. If you read this correctly, I am saying it is NOT a clearwing as clearwings have violet cheek patches.

 

 

 

And vice versa, I apologize for not reading it correctly.

 

Misinterpretation on the www is a lot more common than people think. Easier to misinterpret what a person types, as opposed to waht they say inthe real world.

 

yes why its important to comunicate clearly and as some people can not eg me due to diffrent reasons and cercumstances

why it pays to be a duck on here sometimes and beable to be stood corected

 

mistakes are made to learn by, the only bad mistake is the one you learn nothing from

I've followed Kaz's advice re photos ....

 

 

 

 

Looks pretty darn clearwing to me. Not all of my clearwings have really violet cheek patches and some are almost like spangle patches with a bit of silver/white through them. Never been picked up for it though so I'm assuming it's not a problem?........

 

I would definitely pitch for clearwing cock bird and a fairly nice one at that.

 

Let him moult out and then see what the cheek patch and markings do. My guess is that he will be slightly marked but a nice example of a clearwing. He's go a brilliantly clear tail!!!

I've followed Kaz's advice re photos ....

 

 

 

 

Looks pretty darn clearwing to me. Not all of my clearwings have really violet cheek patches and some are almost like spangle patches with a bit of silver/white through them. Never been picked up for it though so I'm assuming it's not a problem?........

 

I would definitely pitch for clearwing cock bird and a fairly nice one at that.

 

Let him moult out and then see what the cheek patch and markings do. My guess is that he will be slightly marked but a nice example of a clearwing. He's go a brilliantly clear tail!!!

Thank YOU! First person to say it is a Clearwing (which is what I was hoping for all along). I am going to resist the temptation to bring it along for you this Sunday for the Brasea and follow RIP's advice and let it go through at least one moult as it only came out of the nest a week ago. By that stage I will know the sex for sure

 

This is the first green series Clearwing breeding that I attempted. I am hoping that the brownish tinge to the markings that I identified is normal on the yellow wings ....

 

The cock in question is down to another hen and the eggs are hatching this week, I am rigorously checking eye colours and so far 2 black eyes!

Hehehe no i think actually RIP first said that it was a clearwing so I can't claim the glory on that but the fact that i was away with work meant that I didn't get a chance to get in first

 

He looks great! See you on Sunday then.