Posted September 8, 200915 yr I'm wondering if Tori is split for Recessive pied, or is a very lightly marked Clearflight Pied. Her parents were a Clearflight Pied mum and the dad was not visually Pied at all, though his parents are unknown. He doesn't have any pied spot at the back of his head, and I know the mum is not split for Recessive Pied. So, is she a Clearflight Pied with only a tiny pied spot and that's it, or is the dad split for Recessive Pied (but you can't see it)? If only one parent is split, you can get some splits also can't you? Here's a picture. She has no white on her front, no clear flight feathers, only that one white spot. The picture is a couple days old but the only one showing the back of her head properly..
September 9, 200915 yr She is not a lightly marked clearfflight pied at all. She is a normal, possibly split for recessive pied.
September 9, 200915 yr Author If she is not Clearflight Pied she is definitely split for Rec. Pied, right, as no normal would have the spot at the back of the head? This means her dad was split for Rec. Ped then? Another question, would breeding a bird to her half-nephew be too closely related? Or would it be fine to do? Edited September 9, 200915 yr by Jen144
September 9, 200915 yr If she is not Clearflight Pied she is definitely split for Rec. Pied, right, as no normal would have the spot at the back of the head? This means her dad was split for Rec. Ped then? Another question, would breeding a bird to her half-nephew be too closely related? Or would it be fine to do? Either parent can be split for recessive pied. Its a recessive gene and not sex linked.....so can come from either mum or dad. The half nephew breeding would be fine assuming there is no genetic faults that would come out.
September 9, 200915 yr Author Okay I did mention that the mum isn't split for Rec. Pied, so it must be the dad. Thanks.
September 9, 200915 yr If by Clearflight you are referring to a Dutch Pied otherwise known as a Clearflighted Pied or Continental Clearflight Pied then it is quite possible for the pairing to produce a youngster that appears to be normal with a few "pied" feathers on the back of the head. Some years ago when I was breeding Dutch Pieds I found the pied markings to be quite variable and below is a photo I have posted on this site before of a Dutch Pied Olive cock. Both his parents were Dutch Pieds with father a double factor Dutch Pied Mauve. You'll notice an opalencent bloom but no pied feathers except the couple on the back of his head.
February 23, 201312 yr Hi it's a hard one he looks like maybe he is a lightly marked recessive pied, if he was a dutch pied I think he would have a blue cere. Has he got solid eye colour? Cheers Jenny
February 23, 201312 yr That's a good point about the cere, Jenny. I was leaning towards recessive pied, too. But I wasn't sure how much variation a clearflight pied could have. If it has no iris rings, then I would say it must be recessive pied.
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