okay here I go, I have had budgies for some time all in outside aviaries, I have just recently decided to breed them.

 

I have paired some of them up and I am just wondering what color babies I am likely to get, although from reading some posts I know without the parents genetics this may be difficult. As I have not really been worried about breeding from them before I was never really concerned about knowing all about the genetics and mutations......etc. So now that I have decided to breed from them I have spent weeks and weeks researching all about genetics and the mutations...etc, and I think I am slowly getting my head around it. So my point being I would like some opinions on my pairing and what color babies they are likely to hatch out. As I am just learning my colors you may have to be patient, I may get some wrong.

 

I will start with the 4 pairs I have in Breeding cages:

 

Cage 1 has got a normal violet blue Cock and a mauve dominant pied Hen.

Cage 2 has got a normal blue opaline Cock and a violet opaline cinnamon wing Hen. (sitting on 7 eggs)

Cage 2 has got a recessive pied cock and a violet clear wing Hen. (sitting on 7 eggs)

Cage 4 has got a dominant blue pied Cock and a Sky Blue spangle Hen.

 

In the outside aviaries there are the following pairs:

 

Aviary 1 (3 pairs)

1st pair- Recessive pied Cock and a normal grey Hen. (sitting on 6 eggs)

2nd pair- Sky blue clear wing Cock and a normal dark mauve Hen. (sitting on 5 eggs)

3rd pair- Normal grey Cock and a recessive blue? pied Hen

 

Aviary 2 (2 pairs)

1st pair- Dominant blue pied Cock and Normal Blue hen.

2nd pair- Both normal blues.

 

Aviary 3 (3 pairs)

1st pair- Golden face mauve Cock and a clear wing sky blue hen.

2nd pair- Normal blue Cock and a blue spangle Hen

3rd pair- Cobalt blue Cock and a dominant green pied hen. ( Not sure about this Hen, will post photos tomorrow)

 

Aviary 4 (2 pairs)

1st pair- Recessive green pied Cock and Blue dominant pied hen.

2nd Pair- Grey dominant pied Cock and sky blue clear wing hen.

 

Well thats about it, some of my colours may not make sense as I am just learning, please feel free to correct me, I will try post pictures of the pairs soon.

 

cheers

i would really like to help you but it would be nice to know what some of the blues are (sky,cobalt or mauve etc)

Sorry, as I did say I am only learning , I am going to post photos of them all today and then you can let me know...

okay, so I am new to this uploading from photobucket so I will see how I go, I will just post photo's of the pairs so that people help me out by telling me what colors they are, and what color babies I may get.

 

Some of the photos are not so good because I took them at 7am this morning so the hens were out of the nest and I could get photos without disturbing them too much.

 

This is my 1st pair they are in an aviary with 1 other pair.

 

This is my 2nd pair who share an aviary with the above pair.

 

This is my 3rd pair who share an aviary with 2 pairs below.

 

This is my 4th pair.

 

This is my 5th pair.

 

This is my 6th and 7th pair who both share an aviary together.

All 4 birds sitting in their pairs.

One pair

Photo of the pied male on his own.

 

My 8th pair, who live in an aviary with the following 2 pairs.

 

My 9th pair.

 

My 10th pair.

They are the 2 sitting together at the back.

 

 

The following birds are all being kept in Breeding cages.

 

My 11th pair.

 

My 12th pair.

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I am having trouble getting anymore to load so I will put another reply.

okay I have started a new post as I didnt have enough room for all of my photos on the last post

 

Once again you will have to excuse the quality of some of the photos as some of the hens are sitting and didnt really want their photos taken

 

This is my 12th pair.

 

My 13th pair.

 

My 14th pair.

This photo makes her look darker than she really is, was hard using the flash.

 

My 15th pair.

 

okay thats it for now, I have got pictures of other birds that are for sale, mostly blue males but I will post them at a later date.

Sorry but that is just a little bit overwhelming!!!!! You will get lots of different colours from lots of different pairs .

Ohhh, okay thats fine I guess it will have to be a surprise then......will keep updated as to what hatches what.

just then i was typing up the outcomes...but i accidently deleted it all!!!!!!! sorry mate about that...if no one else does it by today i will do it soon as possible promise but i gotta get ready for fathers day

just to let you know im learning too...were in it together (im 13)

okay I have made an attempt to answer these first lot. A lot of the results will also depend on what the birds might be concealing in the recessive form so opalines, cinnamons, inos, lacewings etc etc etc (any of the recessive traits) have a chance of popping out - particularly cinnamon and opaline.

 

okay, so I am new to this uploading from photobucket so I will see how I go, I will just post photo's of the pairs so that people help me out by telling me what colors they are, and what color babies I may get.

 

Some of the photos are not so good because I took them at 7am this morning so the hens were out of the nest and I could get photos without disturbing them too much.

 

This is my 1st pair they are in an aviary with 1 other pair. Light green recessive pied cock x Skyblue Greywing? Spangle? Dominant Pied. 50% chance Dom pieds, 50% normals - all split for recessive pied. All green unless boy is also split for blue. 50% chance of spangle (if hen is indeed spangle), all split for greywing (if hen is indeed greywing).

 

This is my 2nd pair who share an aviary with the above pair. Dom Pied Grey Cock x Skyblue clearwing hen. All blues (no green), 50% chance of grey (unless cock is double factor grey then 100% chance of grey), 50% chance of dominant pied, 50% chance of normal - all split for clearwing (unless cock is also split for clearwing).

 

This is my 3rd pair who share an aviary with 2 pairs below. Normal Skyblue cock x Spangle greywing hen. 50% chance of spangle, 50% chance of normal. All blue (no greens, no greys). All split for greywing (unless cock bird is also split for greywing).

 

This is my 4th pair. Normal skyblue cock x Single factor Goldenface Opaline Skyblue (or cobalt) Dominant Pied. 50% chance of goldenface, 50% chance of normals, all cocks split for opaline.

 

This is my 5th pair. Normal mauve cock x Cinnamon (?) Spangle Skyblue hen. All chicks cobalt (no greens, no greys). 50% chance of spangle, 50% chance of normals. If hen is indeed cinnamon then all cocks split for cinnamon.

 

This is my 6th and 7th pair who both share an aviary together.

All 4 birds sitting in their pairs.

One pair. Normal skyblue x Normal Skyblue. 100% normals (unless some unknown splits), all skyblue.

Photo of the pied male on his own. Skyblue dom pied x normal skyblue. 50% chance of dom pied 50% chance of normals, all skyblue (no greens, no greys).

 

My 8th pair, who live in an aviary with the following 2 pairs. Greywing (?) Spangle skyblue x Normal Mauve. All cobalts (no greens, no greys) 50% chance of spangle, 50% chance of normal. All split for greywing if cock is greywing.

 

My 9th pair. Single factor Golden face Cobalt (or skyblue) Dominant Pied Opaline x Normal Grey. 50% chance of GF, 50% chance of dominant pied, 50% chance of normals (golden faced or non), 50% chance of grey unless hen is double factor grey then 100% grey. All hens will be opaline all cocks will be split for opaline.

 

My 10th pair.

They are the 2 sitting together at the back. Normal grey cock x mauve recessive pied. All chicks will be normal split for recessive pied unless cock also split recessive pied. 50% chance grey, 50% chance cobalt unless cock is double factor grey then 100% grey.

 

 

The following birds are all being kept in Breeding cages.

 

My 11th pair. Cobalt Dominant Pied x Cobalt Spangle. 50% chance dom Pied, 50% chance spangle, 50% chance normals (spangle & dominant pied can appear together and still have an overall 50% chance of appearing either sigly or in combination). 25% skyblue, 50% cobalt, 25% mauve.

 

My 12th pair.

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Edited September 6, 200915 yr by KAZ

okay I have started a new post as I didnt have enough room for all of my photos on the last post

 

Once again you will have to excuse the quality of some of the photos as some of the hens are sitting and didnt really want their photos taken

 

This is my 12th pair. Greywing skyblue spangle x cinnamon syblue spangle. 25% chance double factor spangle, 50% chance spangle, 25% chance normal. All skyblue. All split for greywing, all cocks split for cinnamon.

 

My 13th pair. Normal cobalt x Dominant pied cobalt. 50% chance dom pied, 50% chance normal. 25% chance skyblue, 50% cobalt, 25% mauve.

 

My 14th pair.

This photo makes her look darker than she really is, was hard using the flash. Opaline skyblue x Cinnamon Opaline violet (violet cobalt maybe violet mauve - hard to tell in these photos). All opaline, all cocks split for cinnamon. Going with violet cobalt. 50% chance of violets (violet factor added to either sky or cobalt), 50% skyblue, 50% cobalt.

 

My 15th pair. Opaline grey dominant pied x albino. All cocks split for albino. Really depends on what the albino is masking (could be any number of things and the breeding results will give you some idea). 50% chance of grey just based on the grey cock, 50% chance of dom pied just based on cock.

 

okay thats it for now, I have got pictures of other birds that are for sale, mostly blue males but I will post them at a later date.

Edited September 6, 200915 yr by KAZ

Thank you so very much, you certainly know what you are talking about. I look forward to seeing what comes of these eggs. I will let everyone know what colors I get. Once again thank you Nubbly5

Well first baby has hatched out this morning, its a bit on the small side so hopefully it will do okay. And it is out of a pair that I forgot to post, cock is a green recessive pied and the Hen is a clear wing Violet. Hopefully we will see some more hatch out soon.

Wow you have allot of birdies!!!!!!

I love the female (?) in pair 13!!!!

Good Luck

Well first baby has hatched out this morning, its a bit on the small side so hopefully it will do okay. And it is out of a pair that I forgot to post, cock is a green recessive pied and the Hen is a clear wing Violet. Hopefully we will see some more hatch out soon.

 

 

Outcomes should be all normals (might be cinnamon or opaline hens come popping out - or some other recessive varieity if both are split for it), if the cock is split for blue then you will get greens and blues but if not they will all be green. If hen is visual violet as in cobalt violet then 50% chance of dark greens (or cobalts) and 50% chance of light greens (or skyblues), all with 50% chance of carrying the violet factor.

okay, I went out to check the new chick last night to see if it was going okay and..............surprise!!! there were 2 chicks (this hen has another hens eggs under her). This morning when I went out to check the birds I found I had another hatch out (from pair 8), but it was stone cold and not moving , so I got it out anyway and immediatly heated it up and it slowly started moving. I went and put it under another hen but it was to weak and she was just gonna flatten it so I bought it inside. I gave it a drop of sugar water and then attempted to give it some baby budgie mix, its crop looks to be fairly full so we will see how we go. It is moving around now so I have my fingers crossed.

Once the chick is active and warm and fed you should be fine to put it under a hen for ongoing raising. Good you discovered it in time

Yes it was lucky, I have the flu at the moment and it is keeping me up all night, so at 6am I went out and checked and thats when I found it, I have placed it back under the hen now and I am checking around the clock. It still seems as though she is squashing it more so than keeping it warm. If it is still looking like its not going to be okay under her I will bring it in, only thing is I do not have a heat source good enough to keep its temperature right.

I havn't been on for a few days so thought I would leave an update.

 

The little chick I was talking about in the last post has done extremely well, it is just as big as the hens original 2 babies. Since then she has hatched out another of her own also doing very well, but just yesterday I had to place another birds chick under her as the other hen wasn't feeding it and the hen it is under is currently the only hen I have with chicks. So I have a violet spangle hen sitting on 2 of her own babies and 3 from other pairs ( 8th , 1st and 14th pairs), so if successful in rearing all 5 she should have a very colorful nest of babies, the only problem arising from all this is that the hen has still got 3 eggs of her own but going by the dates I am thinking at least one is bad but because the eggs are so dirty it is hard for me to tell so I am just leaving them until her time is up. How will this hen go if the 2 good eggs do hatch? will she be able to rear 7 babies? and if so what is the chances of them being small and weeding because of the large number? I guess for now I will just wait and see :emoticon112: