Today i saw my 3 month old albino girl hanging around the gound area tired and sleep, which is unusual because when they sleep they sleep at the top...She has soiled her vent feathers, extremely easy to catch and ver tired, and her feet are all dirty as weel and her wings are drooping and bothe feet are on the perch when fluffed up.

 

These seem to be bad signs and i am obviously worried for this girl...What can i do for her tommorow at home

 

I want to say i dont have a 40 watt light here and no other budgies have similar symptons

Is she likely to be eggbound ? When was she breeding last ?

Is she likely to be eggbound ? When was she breeding last ?

 

she may have chill or anything ...

but to see if she is egg bound take a look under her tail and if their is a bump looks like her bumb is going to explode then chances are she is if this is so i suggest you give her a half teaspoon of cod liver oil in her seed this will clean her out egg and all

if this does not work then a vet trip is needed

 

birds catch draft really easy specially in this weather

so im guessing she is sick with cold or she is really sick with illness

is she thin can you feel her keal bone ?

when birds get to the floor stage it is hard to bring them back

as the dehydrate themselves as they dont have strength to do anything not even drink

they die shortly after

have you wormed your birds latley ?

birds should be wormed every 4 months

their are so many things that can make a bird sick but mainly they have been not good for a while ,they hide it well as so others dont pick on and kill them

the vet really is the only one who can give a true awnser relying on us the people of the sight is not a good thing

many of us can help with certain issues but none of us are able to give a true diagnosis so really its always best to go to the vet

soon as your bird looks sick as it wont get any better only worse with out a real diagnosis and the right medication

you also may save other birds by picking up a illness that may be hiding in your flock

so many illnesses have similar sighs but some are as simple as a few days in side warm others are not so easy

only a vet can tell the diffrents

 

if a vet is not open

keep warm

i teaspoon of cold black tea to 1ooml boiled water

and offered to bird on a spoon may just help till you can get her their

 

i took one same symptoms to vet today

she was euthanasized and sent for testing how ever i caught mine while still active just with stained bum

removed in morn to cage in home and by lunch she was on the floor hardly moving

i figured thats 4 birds dead in 1 and half months so even though symptoms a bit diffrent their has to be underlying issue

so two birds sent for autopsy now answers on monday night

so vet vet vet vet vet is all i can spell out and thats not being nasty to you this is to every one

behaviour questions are one thing but defenent sighns of illness need vet

she may have chill or anything ...

 

so im guessing she is sick with cold or she is really sick with illness

 

Good advice GB. I did want to point out that birds don't get colds like us humans, when birds get sick they need immediate attention by being seperated from the flock and being examined by an avian vet along with being kept warm in a make shift hospital bed. Keeping your bird warm (above 75F) is one of the KEY factors of pulling your bird through being sick.

 

Also to the Original Poster you said the other birds were not showing signs that doesn't mean much especially if she is not egg bound, I really suggest that you take her to an avian vet, get her checked out, poop sampled etc..even if she doesn't make it it could save all your other birds, according to your profile you have 49.

Edited August 6, 200915 yr by Elly

okay i said in my first post she is 3 months and she hasnt mated or has got a partner so being egg-bound would be at the bottom of my list...

cold,,,,i havent seen her sneezing. but it might be a possibility

i have mite sprayed a few of them lately, and she doesnt have a case of scaley face as i can see.

 

GB are you saying i might need to keep her in the house..? if so can i leave her in the balcony because my mum wont be very happy Shes outside at night right now with all the others.

 

tommorow i ll keep her in a seperate cage in case she has a disease or something and the otheer s wont catch it. ill try and take care of her the best way i can.

 

Ill give her the blaak teaa stuff, but what else can i give her o get her to feel better?

First thing i do for any sick birds with poopy bum is bring them inside, and give them a crop feed with Sulphadim in it.

If your mum won't let you bring her into the warm it may get difficult to save her, as in this cold she'll not be able to fight as much against it due to being light (no energy/fats) to protect her...

I'm in Perth so if your mum is having difficulties letting you help her ask if you can drop her here so we can try to help.

First thing i do for any sick birds with poopy bum is bring them inside, and give them a crop feed with Sulphadim in it.

If your mum won't let you bring her into the warm it may get difficult to save her, as in this cold she'll not be able to fight as much against it due to being light (no energy/fats) to protect her...

I'm in Perth so if your mum is having difficulties letting you help her ask if you can drop her here so we can try to help.

 

nice offer libby

 

you should remove any sick bird from flock soon as its spotted

i remove birds that stay just a slight bit ruffled if the bird has not moved in 4 to five hours even if it pulls together and creats a chase just to remove it

then it is housed in a cage in shed for up to my descreshion depending on other behavior

and if im not sure as it looks good but still ruffled it gets moved to a bit bigger cage and sits for two weeks their in case

my birds rearly get unwell but by staying on top of them i lessen chances of spred through out flock

First thing i do for any sick birds with poopy bum is bring them inside, and give them a crop feed with Sulphadim in it.If your mum won't let you bring her into the warm it may get difficult to save her, as in this cold she'll not be able to fight as much against it due to being light (no energy/fats) to protect her...I'm in Perth so if your mum is having difficulties letting you help her ask if you can drop her here so we can try to help.

nice offer libby you should remove any sick bird from flock soon as its spotted i remove birds that stay just a slight bit ruffled if the bird has not moved in 4 to five hours even if it pulls together and creats a chase just to remove it then it is housed in a cage in shed for up to my descreshion depending on other behavior and if im not sure as it looks good but still ruffled it gets moved to a bit bigger cage and sits for two weeks their in case my birds rearly get unwell but by staying on top of them i lessen chances of spred through out flock

 

 

Thankyou libby for the nice offer, and gb for the info...this is a good learning eperience but i have now placed her in the bathroom where there are four heat lights...

shes looking sicker than ever!I also placed some mineral supplemetn in the water for the extra boost, and the heat seems to be going well done in the cage.

She isnt doing muchI was shocked how fragile, skinny she was when i caught her and her eyes are always half closed:( i dont want to lose this bird :sad

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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n the last picture the space between her rump and wings make her seem so skinny

is it a good idea to cover the cage with material to trap the heat in??

Thanks again to all the reples and may someone please reply asap as this birds minutes are counted

Edited August 7, 200915 yr by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB

try to give it a crop feed if you can if not try some black tea or chamoile tea made up put a bit on a spoon and see if it will drink it that way

it needs some energy soon dear

can i hold her and put it in by a spoon or something or will that choke her?

hand feeding anything by spoon is very risky. you will have to be very careful she doesnt aspirate.

If you dont do it though i think she wont make it very long. Do your best. I am thinking of you and i hope she pulls through.

can i hold her and put it in by a spoon or something or will that choke her?

 

yes you can and just put the tinyest bit on the spoon at a time dont fill it right up theres not much else at this stage left to do if something not done quickly the longer a bird sits not doing anything the more downhill it goes darl

may i be a tad rude and ask why you are trying to save the bird with god knows what illness and have not given her the best chance and taken her to the vet

but also adding that you are doing all you can but i think she is past the pull up stage

he needs medication to actually win this battle only a vet can say what one

Take up Libbys offer and get the bird to her ASAP.....its thin and dehydrated. It needs a crop feed by an EXPERIENCED person. Libby is in the PARKWOOD area.

Please get the bird to her tonight or early tomorrow. She can do for this bird what you cannot. The bird is very thin and that hunched look is what they do when they have little reserves left to fight........she hasnt been eating.

Edited August 7, 200915 yr by KAZ

may i be a tad rude and ask why you are trying to save the bird with god knows what illness and have not given her the best chance and taken her to the vet

but also adding that you are doing all you can but i think she is past the pull up stage

he needs medication to actually win this battle only a vet can say what one

 

Have to say I agree with GB here. When a bird has all the symptoms your girl has it's a case of booking her a visit to the vet's asap.

 

Is there any reason why you haven't done this already?

Edited August 7, 200915 yr by renee

okay i said in my first post she is 3 months and she hasnt mated or has got a partner so being egg-bound would be at the bottom of my list...

 

If a baby budgie is in an aviary with nestboxes and 3 months old they will mate and they will get eggbound. While this may not be happeneing in this case, it CAN happen........so never put it at the bottom of a list if they are in a breeding aviary.

Take up Libbys offer and get the bird to her ASAP.....its thin and dehydrated. It needs a crop feed by an EXPERIENCED person. Libby is in the PARKWOOD area.

Please get the bird to her tonight or early tomorrow. She can do for this bird what you cannot. The bird is very thin and that hunched look is what they do when they have little reserves left to fight........she hasnt been eating.

 

yes i agree with all and just read all the post libby offered hours ago would of been better for the bird i thought it just happened in which case tea gives bit of energy to get to proper vet help

By the look of that bird it will no longer eat or drink and needs emergency feeding by crop needle. I would bet it is thin and lightweight and on its last legs.

Edited August 7, 200915 yr by KAZ

okay i said in my first post she is 3 months and she hasnt mated or has got a partner so being egg-bound would be at the bottom of my list...

 

If a baby budgie is in an aviary with nestboxes and 3 months old they will mate and they will get eggbound. While this may not be happeneing in this case, it CAN happen........so never put it at the bottom of a list if they are in a breeding aviary.

 

yes birds will breed at 4 weeks of age and up it is important to have a flight for all young hens up till 1 year if you are going to breed colony style or you risk them getting egg bound

I agree at this point Libby is your best bet even if you can take the bird to the avian vet she will be able to give it the 100% care it needs, PLEASE consider it and keep us updated.

I'll be on call all night if you need me and avaliable all day tomorrow if you can convince your parents to take you to the vet or here.

She needs electrolytes and glucose desperatly, but with a bird this sick crop feeding is detrimental and even then they can bring it back up from their shrunken crop and aspirate. Once she's fitting she's only minutes off death so she needs nutrience before this happens. If you do try to feed her off the spoon, which i doubt she'll take she'll more than likely take it into her lungs. IF this happens you'll find she'll go immediatly limp (suffocating) You need to hold her tightly in both hands ( like they do with newborn pups and kittens) support her head well and hold her still and give her a slight forward flick movement. This will remove the liquid and food from her lungs. Although i highly recommend not trying to feed her off a spoon.

Libby right now i am going to pm you aboout tommorow

 

THANKS so much to everyones tips it is very help ful and i hope it helps us keeping this precious bird through the night

I'll be on call all night if you need me and avaliable all day tomorrow if you can convince your parents to take you to the vet or here.

She needs electrolytes and glucose desperatly, but with a bird this sick crop feeding is detrimental and even then they can bring it back up from their shrunken crop and aspirate. Once she's fitting she's only minutes off death so she needs nutrience before this happens. If you do try to feed her off the spoon, which i doubt she'll take she'll more than likely take it into her lungs. IF this happens you'll find she'll go immediatly limp (suffocating) You need to hold her tightly in both hands ( like they do with newborn pups and kittens) support her head well and hold her still and give her a slight forward flick movement. This will remove the liquid and food from her lungs. Although i highly recommend not trying to feed her off a spoon.

this time im going to differ in opioion because for the last couple of days we have had a bird just sitting there wasting away while questions have been asked and offers put out but not being able to be taken up on we have a young person that probably hasnt got a crop tube well obiousbly hasnt done it anyway even if they did whereas on the other end everyone has a spoon and its not beyond her age and experience to try and bird is dieing anyway i know how hard it is for a adult to crop feed a very sick bird and the spoon for a young person in that situation in far better than keeping looking in the cage doing nothing but questioning you have nothing to lose in that situation at all

just a thought

A bird in the condition this one obviously is will not take a feed off a spoon without aspirating. Libby has offered to take the bird and do what needs to be done.........they dont live that far apart that the bird cannot be got to Libby. Its up to CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB to recognise that the need to accept help is URGENT and get the bird to Libby. If no vet, then Libby is next best option. I would trust Libby with any sick bird.

I'll be on call all night if you need me and avaliable all day tomorrow if you can convince your parents to take you to the vet or here.

She needs electrolytes and glucose desperatly, but with a bird this sick crop feeding is detrimental and even then they can bring it back up from their shrunken crop and aspirate. Once she's fitting she's only minutes off death so she needs nutrience before this happens. If you do try to feed her off the spoon, which i doubt she'll take she'll more than likely take it into her lungs. IF this happens you'll find she'll go immediatly limp (suffocating) You need to hold her tightly in both hands ( like they do with newborn pups and kittens) support her head well and hold her still and give her a slight forward flick movement. This will remove the liquid and food from her lungs. Although i highly recommend not trying to feed her off a spoon.

this time im going to differ in opioion because for the last couple of days we have had a bird just sitting there wasting away while questions have been asked and offers put out but not being able to be taken up on we have a young person that probably hasnt got a crop tube well obiousbly hasnt done it anyway even if they did whereas on the other end everyone has a spoon and its not beyond her age and experience to try and bird is dieing anyway i know how hard it is for a adult to crop feed a very sick bird and the spoon for a young person in that situation in far better than keeping looking in the cage doing nothing but questioning you have nothing to lose in that situation at all

just a thought

 

ghazzigh, i dont want to play vets with this bird im not taking any risks i am going to see libby later on in the day the bird has survived the night but is just hanging on and she wont eat

i had got a spoon of water and placed in down her throat she is okay.

Just because im a bit younger doesnt mean i dont know what im doing or what you guys are talking about

 

An dkaz yes its up to me to realsise this i have arranged to meet libby today im just waiting for her addressed. I am very upset and sad for this bird

I do realise it is URGENT

Edited August 8, 200915 yr by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB