Hi All,

I have a Lutino (yellow ) Cock bird and am about to put it to a grey hen bird.

 

Looking at the genetics, it will give me hens that are Lutinos, hens that are Lutino, Grey.

 

I was wondering if the grey comes through in a diffused form, or if it enhances the yellow.

 

So the related question is - what is best to put with a Lutino (if you only have one?) to ensure best color?

 

Is it A Dark factor green to enhance? A blue series, a normal? See a myriad of questions but really only two.

 

1 - Lutino + grey = ?

 

2 - whats best to enhance Lutino's yellow colour and prevent bleed through?

 

Thanks,

David

Edited August 1, 200915 yr by **Liv**

Well I have heard that the best colour enhancer for a Lutino is Dark Green, it gives the yellow a rich buttercup colour.

 

Cinnamon is used to reduce suffusion.

 

I'm not keen on Lute to Grey pairing, unless of course both birds complement each other beautifully!

Well I have heard that the best colour enhancer for a Lutino is Dark Green, it gives the yellow a rich buttercup colour.

 

Cinnamon is used to reduce suffusion.

 

I'm not keen on Lute to Grey pairing, unless of course both birds complement each other beautifully!

 

Thanks Renee,

 

what about Cobalt for a dark factor?

Thanks Renee,

 

what about Cobalt for a dark factor?

okay, well here's the thing Dave. Lutino are Ino birds bred out of Greens. By pairing Grey or Cobalt you adding the Blue factor and are more likely to get suffusion.

 

However, try the Cobalt and you may get Albino cock chicks or at the very least split Blue.

Thanks Renee,

 

what about Cobalt for a dark factor?

okay, well here's the thing Dave. Lutino are Ino birds bred out of Greens. By pairing Grey or Cobalt you adding the Blue factor and are more likely to get suffusion.

 

However, try the Cobalt and you may get Albino cock chicks or at the very least split Blue.

 

 

Thanks Renee,

lutino == green bird!

Grey == bad

Cobalt == roll-the-dice

 

cool - see if I can try a substitution b4 they get too carried away...

The hen we have is actually a grey green... does that change anything here???

The hen we have is actually a grey green... does that change anything here???

 

Aha, I read wrong, I thought the Lute was the hen .... well that will change the outcomes above.

 

Look if you want to use her go ahead. I'm really fussy about these things and unless I know one of my Inos is split I don't mix the Green and Blue factors up. But that's just me.

Grey green based lutino's are a bad idea from what i've read. Grey in ALBINO's is good because you dont get the blue sheen, and there is no colour to dull. Grey in lutino's dulls the body colour and you lose the brightness desired. Ultimately you are aiming for the buttercup yellow and i have heard that dark green is used well in this, and in some cases opaline is used for something (perhaps all yellow wings rather than yellow wings with white flights, cant quite recall - i know someone on this board knows what i mean). Cinnamon is of course used for suffusion but again i think it should be used with caution as it is a colour diluter. It would pay to look up articles on lutino show breeding or speek with lutino show breeders.

 

Hope someone else can confirm or disagree with what i said and be of more assistance!

The hen we have is actually a grey green... does that change anything here???

 

There is a difference? Go figure. yes I started the thread with the wrong sex,

 

grrrrrrrr

 

(goes off and has a martini - dry - without olive...)

Grey green based lutino's are a bad idea from what i've read. Grey in ALBINO's is good because you dont get the blue sheen, and there is no colour to dull. Grey in lutino's dulls the body colour and you lose the brightness desired. Ultimately you are aiming for the buttercup yellow and i have heard that dark green is used well in this, and in some cases opaline is used for something (perhaps all yellow wings rather than yellow wings with white flights, cant quite recall - i know someone on this board knows what i mean). Cinnamon is of course used for suffusion but again i think it should be used with caution as it is a colour diluter. It would pay to look up articles on lutino show breeding or speek with lutino show breeders.

 

Hope someone else can confirm or disagree with what i said and be of more assistance!

 

I agree with everything you've said

Grey green based lutino's are a bad idea from what i've read. Grey in ALBINO's is good because you dont get the blue sheen, and there is no colour to dull. Grey in lutino's dulls the body colour and you lose the brightness desired. Ultimately you are aiming for the buttercup yellow and i have heard that dark green is used well in this, and in some cases opaline is used for something (perhaps all yellow wings rather than yellow wings with white flights, cant quite recall - i know someone on this board knows what i mean). Cinnamon is of course used for suffusion but again i think it should be used with caution as it is a colour diluter. It would pay to look up articles on lutino show breeding or speek with lutino show breeders.

 

Hope someone else can confirm or disagree with what i said and be of more assistance!

 

I agree with everything you've said

 

Thanks,

I knew about the cinnamon, but wasn't sure about the grey influence of a grey green bird.

Time to hunt for a dark green hen

 

Maybe Troy Holmes will have one

Thanks Renee,

lutino == green bird!

Grey == bad

Cobalt == roll-the-dice

 

cool - see if I can try a substitution b4 they get too carried away...

 

 

love the way you think 007

hi on the lutino if your looking for best colour try and buy a olive that gives you the best results you can use grey green it can lesson your colour but an olive grey green or better still olive spangle works well for size if your lutino is a cock paired to a normal hen all lutino's born will be hens and cocks split to lutes which are good to have please don't put blue through the line you need to keep them pure it makes life really hard because you may get albinos but they will have a sheen becauce there of the green series violets are good to if there of the green series side I hope i'ved helped you a little bit

hi on the lutino if your looking for best colour try and buy a olive that gives you the best results you can use grey green it can lesson your colour but an olive grey green or better still olive spangle works well for size if your lutino is a cock paired to a normal hen all lutino's born will be hens and cocks split to lutes which are good to have please don't put blue through the line you need to keep them pure it makes life really hard because you may get albinos but they will have a sheen becauce there of the green series violets are good to if there of the green series side I hope i'ved helped you a little bit

 

this is what i have always belived true

mauves for albino

green-violets for lutino

i heard olive for lutes and grey green for albino if no grey

 

also dilute instead of cinnamon is better so no suffusion but thats what i have learnt

remembering i have not started breeding yet !!!!

Thank you very much - I was really confused about the whole suffusion thing... and now I am not

 

Will hunt out a dark factor hen for him...

good morning

i breed lutes and i was advised by on of the lute breeders in vic never mix grey with your lutes as it does come out what we have done is used the darker green to get the bright and vibrant color in our lutes and as you can see by the picture that it does work i was also told never to mix grey green

with them i have seen and heard that some breeders do use spangle but thats one avenue i havent gone down

i hope this helps a little

sue

good morning

i breed lutes and i was advised by on of the lute breeders in vic never mix grey with your lutes as it does come out what we have done is used the darker green to get the bright and vibrant color in our lutes and as you can see by the picture that it does work i was also told never to mix grey green

with them i have seen and heard that some breeders do use spangle but thats one avenue i havent gone down

i hope this helps a little

sue

 

 

Sue, would this line of thinking also work with lacewings ? because I have a dark green/lacewing cock down to a lacewing hen. Unfortunately I also have a lacewing hen with a cinnamon grey green/lacewing cock

kaz i think it does i think you shouldnt breed grey greens with yellow lacewings of yellow colour lol ..um ...u know what i mean

but it is okay to breed grey green to white lacewings as you will get all grey or grey green lite green or green chicks split lacewing split to blue (white) and then you can put them to white based lacewings and get yellow and white lacewing hens then keep your yellows seperate to your whites and use lite green i was told is good for bright yellow lacewings

or dark green thats what i heard anyhows

im going to try it :happy-dancing: