Posted July 31, 200915 yr ive got a question..... i put together a showtype bird that was very...boffy... and a normal pet type. one of the chick seem to have this....boofiness a little bit, but i doesnt seem to have as heavy eyebrow and cap as its father....after the first moult, will this baby will be have more feathers? giving it a larger appearance?????
July 31, 200915 yr if i interpreted this right you upsized. which means you enlarged the line of the chcick and so it will appear bigger than an average pet type but smaller than a show. if im correct you wont get the same cap and ' boof ' as the father in only one generation as it is a mix of two sizes creating a medium. yee lol it dont make any sence what i wrote sorry darl but im hoping you get what im meaning. xx Elise xx
July 31, 200915 yr Author hhmmmm.thanks elise..it might be a mix of both, so might in the middle....ive got some pictures that i have used in other posts, but here they are: This is the chick. she i a bit slim n this one but usually she is large and broad...she was interested in the camera. Father and daughter: Dad and dad again on the left i got this dad from a pet store, but its ring is from the south west budgie club. i am beginning to wonder whether it is a good idea to pair up this chick with her father when she is old enough so when i am doing this line breeding the progeny will have more of the fathers side. The father is a 2008 bird any other thoughts on the chicks size to-be?? Edited July 31, 200915 yr by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB
July 31, 200915 yr have you got picture of the mother father and sisters brothers if you can show me these i will be able to tell you which will be the one to hold the fathers genetics more so i breed like this all the time with my pet types although now they are all large lol so but i have gotten usto seeing the passed on fetchers and knowing which chick will develop better its not always the biggest one either you just need to learn to recognize the different quality's in the pairing and see what chick got how much of who i cant explain but with pics could show u in detail what i mean take picture of all and i will give it my best shot usually chicks molt out better than what they are though
July 31, 200915 yr haha im replying again i would say that you did upsize the chick as the body and plumage looks to be upsized slightly but as for the head it looks like a pet type head yes i agree with putting the chick to dad once he has grown up as then you may get the upsized head too good luck with it xx Elise xx
July 31, 200915 yr hhmmmm.thanks elise..it might be a mix of both, so might in the middle....ive got some pictures that i have used in other posts, but here they are: This is the chick. she i a bit slim n this one but usually she is large and broad...she was interested in the camera. Father and daughter: Dad and dad again on the left i got this dad from a pet store, but its ring is from the south west budgie club. i am beginning to wonder whether it is a good idea to pair up this chick with her father when she is old enough so when i am doing this line breeding the progeny will have more of the fathers side. The father is a 2008 bird any other thoughts on the chicks size to-be?? have you got picture of mum seems she doesnt have dads head just mabe broadness across back if i was you i would not be to quick in putting his potancy into her i would pair him with you bigest headed hen see the out come first if thats what you want to do she to me i would sell but thats me thats going on pet type birds also i would not breed back to dad she has a small head my suggestion is to get another large show cull and breed her to that then chicks from that breed the daughter to your cock pictured here you should see more of the genetic make up this way and upsize heads also Edited July 31, 200915 yr by GenericBlue
July 31, 200915 yr Author i havent got very good pictures of the mother...shes just a random pet typ ebird i got from a eptshop sorry its quite blurry. this chick we are talking about is one of the babies, the other being the green pied you see in the pictures which is definetly a pet type. this pair is having a second batch of babies right now, at about 3 weeks the oldest. we will see what happens after the chicks first moult...i am not sure whether i will be allowed to buy another showtype bird. i am selling a whole ton of birds and until i can afford a showtype expensive bird i will wait.i havent joined a club..yet. i guess tommorow i will go out and take more pics.... i forgot to just show you this one....another one from a petshop one but he is the BIGGEST bird i have ever seen and is also from south west budgie club... he will be good for showtype stock except for the fact he is quite old...but moulting at the mo any other comments , suggestions tonite before i take the pics of the pair babies and stuff???
July 31, 200915 yr I wouldnt breed father to daughter. By the time the baby is old enough you should have more choices.
July 31, 200915 yr Author when you say more choices....where do you think i will have more choices from...this piar? or from others that i might buy etc....
July 31, 200915 yr when you say more choices....where do you think i will have more choices from...this piar? or from others that i might buy etc.... others you may buy. Breeding father to daughter is not a good plan.
July 31, 200915 yr Author okey dokey since all of you guys say that i will listen to you guys and i hope you are a good fortune teller kaz because i wouldnt mind a few nice budgies... pics tommorow:) Edited July 31, 200915 yr by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB
August 1, 200915 yr Author all right i promised you guys some pics of pictures of the baby (today) and the chicks the mother and father have got the chick today Mum and dad and the chicks.. these chick seem like they all be type type size i have decided that once i join a budgie club... then i will buy big birds so, in summary, this chick will have a broad back, and be medium sized an i should sell it ....???? Edited August 1, 200915 yr by CUTE.SPANGLED.BUB
August 1, 200915 yr Assuming you said "Pairing chick with father" you mean inbreeding? Edited August 1, 200915 yr by KAZ
August 1, 200915 yr i have decided that once i join a budgie club... then i will buy big birds so, in summary, this chick will have a broad back, and be medium sized an i should sell it ....???? you didnt listen to me i didnt say to go by an expensive bird just a show size one 20 dollors at your local pet shop well in my case anyhow breed two different larger cocks to two different pet type hens then the chicks when older breed them together keep all the large babys and sell the smaller ones the small birds sometimes carry the larger genetics and through bigger chicks i dont sell any chicks i think i may want to breed with for at least 4 months pet type show mixed stock as they can develop still longer if i have the room dont just sell cause what we say follow your own judgment but dont breed back to dad do what i said this upsizes the birds over time Edited August 1, 200915 yr by KAZ
August 1, 200915 yr Author you didnt listen to me i didnt say to go by an expensive bird just a show size one 20 dollors at your local pet shop well in my case anyhow breed two different larger cocks to two different pet type hens then the chicks when older breed them together keep all the large babys and sell the smaller ones the small birds sometimes carry the larger genetics and through bigger chicks i dont sell any chicks i think i may want to breed with for at least 4 months pet type show mixed stock as they can develop still longer if i have the room dont just sell cause what we say follow your own judgment but dont breed back to dad do what i said this upsizes the birds over time i meant if i want a good qual bird. getting one from the pet shop thats show is alrgiht i also forgot to say that from now on my dad isnt paying for new birds and stuff, so if in nee one it with my own money i wil try what you said about breeding the babies when theyre old enough . thanks for the tip Edited August 1, 200915 yr by KAZ
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