Posted July 27, 200916 yr Hi there, I have this pair down to breed... Casper an albino (parentage unknown) and Mocha a skyblue YF2 rec. pied cinnamon spangle Mocha's parents are YF2 skyblue opaline spangle split rec. pied hen and a green and yellow greywing cock split blue, ino, cinnamon, and rec. pied. They currently have 1 egg laid on the 25/7 and if all goes to plan maybe another 1 today. Could someone give me an idea on what to expect from this pair even without knowing anything about Casper. I'm very excited as it's been well over a year since we've had babies. Thanks Edited September 1, 200915 yr by KAZ
July 28, 200916 yr Casper an albino (parentage unknown) and Mocha a skyblue YF2 rec. pied cinnamon spangle nice birds the cock seems to have very dark eyes in picture are his eyes pink and where is his iris rings i dont see any u can not predict an out come when you do not know heritage of a bird especially an albino he could be masking anything be split to anything who knows but they should be lovely and all cocks split ino and cocks split cinn if the albino is not masking cinnimon or split to cinn if he is you could get cinniman chicks also if he is split only some will be cinn if he is cin you will get all cin chicks you could get a albino hens and could be masking normal wing or spangle and all birds will be split rec pie some mabe split grey wing as the mother is split grey wing but you wont know which ones intill breeding so some will be split rec pied and grey wing if your lucky and some chicks will be spangle and some norm so rezult could be (as i dont know fathers history spangle and normal chicks cocks /ino/rec pie /cinnimon if your lucky some split greywing hens /rec pie and if lucky /grey wing ino hens thats if dad is not cinn or /cinn and is masking normal their is so many out comes pos if he is spangle (masking) you could end up with df spangles and spangles and normals so...to find out what he is masking you need to breed him to a hen of normal wings or you will never know his real mutation under that lovely white coat best of luck thats one cocktail you have their Edited July 28, 200916 yr by GenericBlue
July 29, 200916 yr Author Egg No. 3 arrived today. All is looking good. Am going to try candling for the first time in a couple of days to see if I can learn something new. :rip:
July 29, 200916 yr Look at casper's wing... Look's spangle to me... and i don't see red eye's... unless you fixed red eye in photobucket. So i don't think it's albino... :rip:
July 29, 200916 yr Author He's definitely albino...unfortunately the photo is just not showing the red eyes. :rip:
July 29, 200916 yr Ahh, That's why then....maybe he's also spangle... cause it looks ALOT like spangle in the wing :rip: Edited July 29, 200916 yr by mattdog2
July 31, 200916 yr Author Four eggs now. I tried candling but I can't tell anything from looking at them. :hap: They all look the same, I can see a dark patch but no veins. So I give up and I'm just gonna have to wait and be surprised.
August 3, 200916 yr Author Casper and Mocha's 5th egg arrived late yesterday afternoon. I'm hoping she'll stop laying now as I don't want her to have too many eggs as both are first time parents and I want them to have an easy first time go of this. But I don't have any control over that so I'll just hope that this is her limit as I don't have any foster parents available. I did put another pair down when I put these two down but I've had no movement from that pair yet. Here's hoping that all goes well. :thumbs_up:
August 4, 200916 yr Author I just candled the eggs again in the hope that I will see what others see...and yay I did. So far 2 fertile eggs out of 5...the others being too early to see anything I assume. It was so exciting, I've never seen that before...little red veins and what was obviously the tiny foetus. The kids were amazed to see it too! Now, I know it's basically 18 days from when she begins incubating, but how do I know when she actually starts incubating as she has pretty much stayed in the box from day 1 of laying? Only coming out very briefly to mate and eat and not staying out very long at all. Anyway, can't wait, it's so exciting. :happy-dancing:
August 16, 200916 yr Author Mocha and Casper's first baby arrived yesterday afternoon. Very lively and well fed. At least 2 of the other eggs were showing fertile, but we'll wait and see.
August 16, 200916 yr Aww gorgeous! What a lovely clean nestbox. perhaps add some nesting material now? not much, just a smidgen
August 17, 200916 yr Author Well, baby is still going well. :hap: Now I've been doing a bit of reading and according to what I've read this baby is opaline due to having white down. Very exciting, so dad is masking or split opaline. I wasn't expecting this and I'm so excited as opaline is one of my fave mutations along with spangle and spangle opalines being my all time fave. I think this also means that baby is a girl as well. Can't wait to see what else I'll get. Budgie breeding is so addictive.
August 17, 200916 yr Author In my excitement I've jumped the gun...The first baby is albino! I forgot about the eyes...not having seen them before today left me believing the wrong thing. She has red eyes so defintitely no doubting what she is. The second baby has dark eyes though and white down again...but seeing as I stuffed up the last one I'm not saying anything now. I think one more egg to go. As I think the other 2 are infertile. But we'll see.
August 17, 200916 yr In my excitement I've jumped the gun...The first baby is albino! I forgot about the eyes...not having seen them before today left me believing the wrong thing. She has red eyes so defintitely no doubting what she is. The second baby has dark eyes though and white down again...but seeing as I stuffed up the last one I'm not saying anything now. I think one more egg to go. As I think the other 2 are infertile. But we'll see. I think you are right....one egg to go.
August 17, 200916 yr In my excitement I've jumped the gun...The first baby is albino! I forgot about the eyes...not having seen them before today left me believing the wrong thing. She has red eyes so defintitely no doubting what she is. This has me wondering, if an albino chick is also opaline, will it still have the white down? Or for that matter, do non-opaline albino chicks have grey down? (In other words, does the albino gene affect the down color?)
August 17, 200916 yr That's not the white down people refer to as opaline "white down" Once the chick has it's full down at roughly 2 weeks old before the pins set in then you can see the opaline down... but not now.
August 17, 200916 yr In my excitement I've jumped the gun...The first baby is albino! I forgot about the eyes...not having seen them before today left me believing the wrong thing. She has red eyes so defintitely no doubting what she is. This has me wondering, if an albino chick is also opaline, will it still have the white down? Or for that matter, do non-opaline albino chicks have grey down? (In other words, does the albino gene affect the down color?) thats a good question mmmm i wonder now lol i tell you what ii will remember your question and if i ever do get to breed a albino or two lol i will find out for sure as im planing to breed albinos masking normal and grey nothing more
August 18, 200916 yr Author Thanks for the info...I'm gonna use the excuse that I'm still a newbie for all my mistakes! In the mean time I'll just wait and wait and wait and practice all that patience I learnt from having kids.
August 19, 200916 yr Author This is Blotch and Elmo and I put them down a few months ago. I think they missed getting their act together in time to take advantage of their breeding condition. I left them together in the hopes that when they came into breeding condition again they would do okay. It has been ages and I was losing all hope that they would ever get it together. They have been mating like crazed rabbits but I doubted that anything was going right. I began to think that maybe something was wrong with them. Well after a few months together I had decided to put them back in the aviary and let them have a holiday and some fun times. Well, surprise surprise ...they have an egg (laid 18/8). I'm very pleased. Mocha and Casper's babies and going great. Expecting the last of their babies to hatch sometime today. Eggs everywhere.. . .
August 20, 200916 yr Author Mocha and Casper's 3rd (and last I think) baby arrived yesterday afternoon. Blotch and Elmo now have 2 eggs. :sad:
August 22, 200916 yr Author Mocha and Casper's babies are going great! and Blotch and Elmo have 3 eggs.
August 28, 200915 yr Author Hi there, just thought I'd give an update on my birds. Mocha and Caspers babies are hooting along. Lively and healthy as, and super loud. No. 1 baby - Albino hen - 13 days old No. 2 baby - 11 days old No. 3 baby - 9 days old And the 3 of them together. No. 2 and 3 I think might be pieds...they have dark and light coloured patches of skin. Blotch and Elmo have 5 eggs. I candled them this morning and none looking fertile. Couldn't tell which ones are the new ones, but should've been able to see something of the older eggs (the oldest egg is 10 days old) but they all look the same. So at the moment I'm thinking they may be infertile, just have to wait and see. Not holding out much hope for this pair at present though.
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