July 26, 200915 yr Wow, quite a few cages there. How many breeding pairs do you have down at a time? Did you take those pics at night? Seems dark.
July 26, 200915 yr Author right dave , just got home from work , its night here in the Philippines right now , I took those pics a while ago at 530pm .. ,.. right now , I've got 150 breeding pairs (75 pairs each aviary).. some other pics.. Edited July 26, 200915 yr by Marlon
July 26, 200915 yr hi wow lot of birds cages do you have other types of birds the third photo down looks like lovebirds in it or something they look like they have red or orange necks heads are they all budgies just curious Edited July 26, 200915 yr by ghazzigh
July 26, 200915 yr I hope those aren't all of your breeding pairs? many of those birds are only babies themselves and shouldn't be bred????
July 26, 200915 yr Author there a lutino and yellow fischer on the 1st 3rd and 4th pics liby , which ones are babies? been breeding parakeets for 13 years now and I definitely won't breed any baby parakeets . If you are refering to the 1st picture on the 2nd post , then there's really 2 babies there with their mom , another baby 3rd to the last picture . not to good in taking photos . Edited July 26, 200915 yr by Marlon
July 26, 200915 yr there a lutino and yellow fischer on the 1st 3rd and 4th pics liby , which ones are babies? been breeding parakeets for 13 years now and I definitely won't breed any baby parakeets . If you are refering to the 1st picture on the 2nd post , then there's really 2 babies there with their mom , another baby 3rd to the last picture . not to good in taking photos . fischer lovebirds i thought so unless you had a rarer budgie than what ive seen i think libby might be like me going on your pieds they look young to me as well saw the babies you refering to but not them knew that was a family mainly the pieds in my case Edited July 26, 200915 yr by ghazzigh
July 26, 200915 yr By babies Libby means too young to breed. I admit I also think some of your pairs look too young. What age are you breeding your birds at ? To breed that many pairs, you must have a market for the sale of the babies ? Edited July 26, 200915 yr by KAZ
July 26, 200915 yr Author Ill breed them as soon as they are 6 months of age .. the pieds are breeders for 1 year and a half now ...
July 26, 200915 yr By the pictures many of those birds who have been put down for breeding would only JUST be 3 months old... Birds should not be bred until 12 months of age? As already asked why do you produce on such a large level? where do your babies go?
July 26, 200915 yr Author Ill breed them as soon as they are 6 months of age .. I think I'm the only one here in the whole province willing to wait for 6 months (that's 6 months stay in the flight / 8 months after being hatched) to breed those birds , most breeders I know will breed them after 4 months of stay on the flight (6 months / 6 months and half after hatching) Yeah , have market for the babies. By the pictures many of those birds who have been put down for breeding would only JUST be 3 months old...Birds should not be bred until 12 months of age? As already asked why do you produce on such a large level? where do your babies go? 3 months Olddd?????? I think I will have to use a cannon d6_ _ camera for you to see the parakeets clearly . Here in the philippines , if you breed those parakeets after 12 months (that's 12 months stay on the parakeet flight) they won't lay a single egg for a lifetime. buyers come here every now and then . they came from BIORESEARCH , Manila aquatic supply , local petstores etc Edited July 26, 200915 yr by Marlon
July 26, 200915 yr Marlon, you obviously breed on a commercial basis .....quantity breeding. I seriously doubt that some of those birds are 6 months. To me some of them are 3-4 months. With 450 birds you would lose track of each one and its exact age surely.
July 26, 200915 yr Author Marlon, you obviously breed on a commercial basis .....quantity breeding. I seriously doubt that some of those birds are 6 months. To me some of them are 3-4 months. With 450 birds you would lose track of each one and its exact age surely. If that's what you believe.. actually 450 is my last count. that was 3 months ago. anyways thanks a lot for the comments.
July 26, 200915 yr There's no seeing wrong. Those birds are definatly only just over 3 months, if that. In your second post photo's : 2, 5, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16 show all VERY young birds. There's no special camera needed to see that, they're young. Some even still have full barring on their head, meaning they're UNDER 3 months. By a bird being over 12 months of age will NOT stop it from laying for the rest of it's life, that's incorrect. So i don't know who told you that. Mostly everyone on this forum breeds after the age of 12 months for for this rule to be true none of us would of had babies? being in a different country does not change how a bird breeds.
July 26, 200915 yr Marlon, you obviously breed on a commercial basis .....quantity breeding. I seriously doubt that some of those birds are 6 months. To me some of them are 3-4 months. With 450 birds you would lose track of each one and its exact age surely. If that's what you believe.. actually 450 is my last count. that was 3 months ago. anyways thanks a lot for the comments. kaz seems to be on right track with saying you would lose track of age then if you are not sure of how many you have as well how would you keep track of ages if amount not right photos were good enough for me to see you had lovebirds Edited July 26, 200915 yr by ghazzigh
July 26, 200915 yr Author Thanks a lot for the wisdom . That's why I love this forum so much. Because there's a lot of nice people like you guys . and ghazzigh , well at least now you know I've got lovebirds to feed. Edited July 29, 200915 yr by birdluv changed coz to because, please only use shortcuts that are approved.
July 26, 200915 yr Thanks a lot for the wisdom . That's why I love this forum so much. Coz there's a lot of nice people like you guys . and ghazzigh , well at least now you know I've got lovebirds to feed. moneys not everything we love our birds and learning things we sometimes dont want to hear can only benifit them
July 27, 200915 yr Oh my... how different the breeding of budgies is over there in comparison to here in Australia.
July 27, 200915 yr Those bird's certainly are young.... i don't know who told you about bird's not breeding over 12 month's... cause all my budgie's are the youngest being 2 years old and the oldest being 5 year's old... and each pair has had a nest already AND during winter without any problem's .. When breeding young ones their's always a greater chance of bad parenting, and worst of all, the hen's get egg bound very easily when they are young.... Have you had any result's thus far? i would say you have way too many budgie's to keep up with... but that's my opinion. Do you supply calcium supplement's to all the hen's for better egg growth and to keep the hen stabilised in calcium after laying... cause it's crucial that the hen's of supplement's and such to keep them in top health while breeding... otherwise you going to have hen's die on you from exhaustion from laying egg's and draining all the calcium and such from their body's/
July 27, 200915 yr Oh my... how different the breeding of budgies is over there in comparison to here in Australia. Those philly birds live in isolation compared to bird places I have seen in the western suburbs here... before anyone gets too excited.
July 27, 200915 yr Oh my... how different the breeding of budgies is over there in comparison to here in Australia. Those philly birds live in isolation compared to bird places I have seen in the western suburbs here... before anyone gets too excited. Meaning what Richo ?
July 27, 200915 yr Author Oh my... how different the breeding of budgies is over there in comparison to here in Australia. as I've said breeders will start breeding parakeets at the age of 3 to 4 months . with show budgerigars , they'll wait for 6 months before breeding them , we count the months the birds stayed on the flight ...not from the day of being hatched .
July 27, 200915 yr thats the difference between breeding for profit and breeding for enjoyment and challenge we are lucky in this country we have things alot easyer i am not condoning the breeding of budgies at such young ages and they are way to young nor do i condole the breeding of birds in such a manner the birds clearly have no were to fly perch to perch and in my veiw this is very cruel but thats me i want to thank you for posting these pics as it shows us what the mass production of birds and how it is set up really is like i always wondered what a bird factory looked like and now i know birds lay better after a year old they lay more eggs to a clutch and they also feed the young better if you just tryed this with even just a few birds you would see im right you would benefit more in profit as you would produces more chicks bigger and healthier due to the mum and dad feeding better and your birds would benefit in health i understand you need to breed them as for demand but you would have more birds if you did wait the extra time i did see some boxes closed off and they were pretty clean so you must look after them why not go one more step and let the birds mature a bit longer as the benefits are and will over ride the bit of cash flow you may lose in between you could try it with some birds and when you see the good results you could slowly change your whole breeding colony to being the desired age as i said benefiting you and your birds again thanks for sharing you have some lovely birds i would also add another perch for them to fly across to keep their wings exicized toughs perches are good idea by way easy to take out and clean well hope you at least think about letting just a few birds maturer to 1 year at least 10 months if you can do that then at least they will be 11 months when they lay after pairing and 12 when raissing the hatched chicks Edited July 29, 200915 yr by birdluv