that happens sometimes, just have a pair of ring cutters or side cutters on hand and you wont have a problem.

Thats great news Matt well done

Thanks, Was a relief when i got it off, and i'm sure it was a even bigger relief for her as well.

 

Kaz Wrote: PS we will be at the vet tomorrow too Kens old siamese cat just got attacked by a horrible tomcat and has a hole in his stomach. The vet said bring him in tomorrow to be stitched. I bet our vet bill will be bigger than yours.

 

Have you gotten Animal cover Kaz? it's like medicare except it's meant for pet's and animal's etc. Really make's a different for expensive operation's and such.

 

Thanks everyone for your tip's and info on what i should have done

You mean pet insurance Matt?

Definatly does help. We're getting our ragdoll and my puppy insured because she'll be getting a surgery soon

That's the one, except it's for all pet's whether they be dog's bird's etc

Have you gotten Animal cover Kaz? it's like medicare except it's meant for pet's and animal's etc. Really make's a different for expensive operation's and such.

 

Thanks everyone for your tip's and info on what i should have done

No cover, but we have 4 cats 2 dogs and all the birds Luckily Orlando didnt need an op today. Went to the vets and he was shaved, cleaned up, wound was closed with superglue and he is on antibiotics for ten days......$ 99 so not too bad considering

Edited July 25, 200915 yr by KAZ

Oo yes $99 is good considering they did up the wound etc..

 

The Vet's here are real stuck up.... they are theive's(Expensive) and they make so many mistake's. so glad i didn't have to go their.

Rather than paying an insurance company for pet insurance you are probably better to put the money you would otherwise pay to an insurance company aside in your own cash savings term deposit or the like, and just pay the vet with that.

It is the vet who does the work for you, not the insurance company.

What do you think the insurance company does with the money you pay them, they invest it elsewhere. Better to invest it yourself so you earn interest on it.

Edited July 25, 200915 yr by DrNat

Rather than paying an insurance company for pet insurance you are probably better to put the money you would otherwise pay to an insurance company aside in your own cash savings term deposit or the like, and just pay the vet with that.

It is the vet who does the work for you, not the insurance company.

What do you think the insurance company does with the money you pay them, they invest it elsewhere. Better to invest it yourself so you earn interest on it.

I so totally agree

I managed to get the ring off myself this morning.... it was plastic so i got a very small pair of snippers and snipped the ring straight off... no harm done to the bird.... turns out she had a infection in between the ring and flesh that went up to her toe's and caused swelling.... the swelling has now gone down and the infection is almost gone.... i've put some bettadine on her foot and she's now able to curl her foot right around the perch.....

 

so couldn't have went better as far as im concerned.... and i didn't have to see a vet when i took the ring off it was dented into her skin and was bleeding and bruised all around the skin where the ring was.... so the ring most Definitely caused it

 

Thats great to hear matt i hope it all goes well from hear

 

Oo yes $99 is good considering they did up the wound etc..

 

The Vet's here are real stuck up.... they are theive's(Expensive) and they make so many mistake's. so glad i didn't have to go their.

 

It really s#%*s me when i hear of vets like that im pretty lucky cause my vet doesnt charge me at all if the consultation is less than 15 mins i have only ever had to pay for antibiotics before and they were only like 10 bucks never a single consultation fee.

Edited July 26, 200915 yr by *libby*
Please refrain from using swear words.

Ring constriction is fairly common, when a bit of muck get stucks between the ring and the foot. Blood and lymph cannot flow past that point so the foot swells up and bruises, further making the ring constrict around the leg. Deprived of a blood supply the foot starts to die unless the ring is removed.

 

I'm so pleased to hear that it went well Matt, and hope she continues to go well.

 

I'd like to post a word of caution to anyone else who is going to attempt to cut off a ring. I advise extreme caution if doing it at home and would urge people to go to a vet instead, especially if the ring has been there for a few days or the foot looks like it might have died. There are several reasons for this. First, as was pointed out earlier in the thread, there is the risk of hurting the bird with the cutters when there was previously no wound there, especially if the bird is freaking out. One can be careful about that - but the more threatening reason is that sometimes the ring has caused so much pressure that the underlying tissue has died, eroding down to the major blood vessel in the leg. When you remove the ring, the severed blood vessel is exposed and the bird can bleed out very fast and die. A second warning is that there may be infection brewing in the foot below the ring which may release toxins back into the bloodstream once the ring is removed. One more thing to note, especially with steel rings, is that when you cut into it the ring can warp and dig/tighten into the skin, causing further damage, and the sharp cut ends can also lacerate the leg when you try to bend or manipulate it. Always cut on both sides. At some bird clinics, they actually anaesthetise the bird then use a small saw/drill tool on each side to avoid causing the ring to warp.

 

I know (and am glad for Matt and his budgie) that it worked out this time, but always bear these things in mind if you are thinking about doing it at home.

Edited July 26, 200915 yr by Chrysocome

I totally agree Chrysocome, Legs are so tiny on a bird, but to the bird they are just as big and painful as our own leg. Every caution should be taken to ensure they are not injured more in the removal of a ring.

 

So pleased you got the ring off yourself. plastic rings are easier than the metal ones.

The budgie rings we have here in Australia are thin aluminium so cut easily with the correct ring cutters and I advised cutting both sides so it falls away without cutting the leg. Thankyou also Chrys for the great extra info that will help us all make good decisions for our birds

Edited July 26, 200915 yr by KAZ

Mattdog, I have a "Vet" account that I can only withdraw if I go into the bank (it's a passbook) - no card attached, so no impulse use.....I would have been lost without it......not only for my budgies but my 2 dogs and cat as well...GREAT idea and it does work....well it does work for me... I've got another account the same for xmas...

Rather than paying an insurance company for pet insurance you are probably better to put the money you would otherwise pay to an insurance company aside in your own cash savings term deposit or the like, and just pay the vet with that.

It is the vet who does the work for you, not the insurance company.

What do you think the insurance company does with the money you pay them, they invest it elsewhere. Better to invest it yourself so you earn interest on it.

 

 

Ahh see, i disagree with this. To insure my cat for up to $6000 it will only cost $200 a year. It would take me forever to save $6000 for emergency pet money, especially with the wedding coming. When my pregnant cat got hit by a car last year they quoted $3000 alone to do a caesarian on her, not even including the cost of what it would've taken to fix her diaphram rupture. In my eyes it is well worth it, because you never know what could happen or how much it will cost, and if it goes over your limit you have on the insure for the animal, then in your saving you're likely to be able to cover the difference.

 

It's much like car insurance, I don't know anyone who'd risk having to pay for the accidents out of their own pocket... the insurance means there's not as much strain on your pocket for just a little bit a year.

The budgie rings we have here in Australia are thin aluminium so cut easily with the correct ring cutters and I advised cutting both sides so it falls away without cutting the leg. Thankyou also Chrys for the great extra info that will help us all make good decisions for our birds

Yeah i had mum hold her firmly and have her head buried into her shirt so it didn't freak out, and then i got the cutter's and took the ring from the side's and squashed inwards which basically crushed the ring and then came off with ease...

I agree with anne101 and libby that it is very important to make provision for medical emergencies. I would certainly get insurance for my birds if it were available. It is very hard to have saved enough if a big bill hits you. The trouble with even insurance is that it does not cover illness. Usually pet insurance only covers accidents.

I know I would never chance cutting a ring off again. I did it myself once and it stressed the bird so much she had a heart attack and died. Vet next time, won't risk losing a super hen like that again.