Recently my 3 year old budgie's cere has changed from a pink to a light brownish pink . It's not all over his cere, it's mostly just under his nostrils. The area above his nostrils is a whitish pink, which makes him look like he's actually a girl, but he is definitely a boy. I'll try to get some pictures in the next day or too, when my dad returns home with the camera.

 

He looks and is acting perfectly healthy, but I am just wondering what this could be, or if this is actually anything to worry about?

 

There is no build up on his cere. I've read that if a boy budgies cere goes brown its a sign of testicle cancer? His cere hasn't gone brown though, its just change from a picture to a whitish brownish pink I should be able to get some photo's by tomorrow.

Are you absolutely sure of your budgies sex ?

I am not expert on telling the sex of budgies, but many people have told me his male, and he gets jiggy with his toys ALOT

 

Here is a picture of him that I took in Feburary:

 

He also talks very well, which I've been told is more of a boy thing, and doesn't bite very hard.

He looks definite male in the picture...

I am pretty sure he's male, although sometimes I have my doubts.

I am sure when I can get a picture it'll clear some things up, and I am pretty sure it's nothing to be concerned about, but you never know :rofl:

Yep looks male..........have you a photo to show whats worrying you ?

Brown cere in males usually indicates testicular cancer doesnt it?

Brown cere in males usually indicates testicular cancer doesnt it?

Can do and can just indicate a hormonal imbalance.

Brown cere in males usually indicates testicular cancer doesnt it?

Can do and can just indicate a hormonal imbalance.

Well, I wouldn't say that his cere is brown, it's just a colour that is unusual.. its more a dark red colour. Very hard to explain. So once I can get a picture, I'll post it.

Edited July 14, 200915 yr by Hannah

Dark red is female...............you really must post photos :rofl:

Will try my best to get a picture as soon as I can.

dark red? :rofl: never seen that before.... picture's would be great when you have them

Well, dark red may be a bit over the top :rofl:

Going to go pester my sister about her camera.

Edited July 14, 200915 yr by Hannah

Hehe, I still agree with male... i cannot see a hen being turned out from that type of cere that he had in Jan, but as you said about the white... it could still be a hen, we will know for sure once photo's are up, good luck pestering your sister :rofl:

Had a closer look at his cere just then.

The area around his nostrils is a white colour and the area underneath and in between his nostrils is a dark pinky red colour.

 

Unfortunately they'll be no photo's till tomoorow as my sister camera is charging so I can't use it.

White indicates hen... this is a real toughie.... it might be a hen coming into mature (non-breeding condition) you SURE it's 3 yr old?

 

And yes it's too late for photo's now so leave it till tomorrow :rofl:

Edited July 14, 200915 yr by mattdog2

Yup. I am sure he's 3 years old.

I bought him on the 3rd May 2006

I'll have pictures first thing tomorrow morning. Hopefully he'll let me take some good pictures, he wasn't to happy with me looking at his cere before :rofl:

Kaz correct me if im wrong but i remember seeing somewhere that a certain mutation keep's the pink cere.... maybe this budgie has it?

Kaz correct me if im wrong but i remember seeing somewhere that a certain mutation keep's the pink cere.... maybe this budgie has it?

 

Yes certain mutations such as the recessive pied we are talking about do keep their pink cere. What I did notice is that when Pretty was more in breeding condition for a male his cere would become a deeper pink maybe this is what is happening. But you said you see brown is that actually on the cere or above the nostrils on the feathers (which can indicate respiratory issues). From the picture I see he looks male.

Kaz correct me if im wrong but i remember seeing somewhere that a certain mutation keep's the pink cere.... maybe this budgie has it?

 

Yes certain mutations such as the recessive pied we are talking about do keep their pink cere. What I did notice is that when Pretty was more in breeding condition for a male his cere would become a deeper pink maybe this is what is happening. But you said you see brown is that actually on the cere or above the nostrils on the feathers (which can indicate respiratory issues). From the picture I see he looks male.

Until i see more updated photo's, im sticking with male.

In taking a closer look, don't think there is any brown colour on his cere, but I am still not 100% sure. It's definitely turned into a darker pink, and the area leading from his nostrils to the corners of his cere at the top are white.

 

Pictures are coming soon :what:

really??? if so then it might be a hen also......

 

Elly, kaz or whoever read's this next, what do hen's keep in the cere when they are recessive?

Recessive hens are the same as any hens..........whitish pink when not in condition and brown when they are. Recessive cocks have pink ceres at all times.

Here is Pretty in Breeding Condition

 

Her is a bird of Kaz's, a female Lacewing just like the Recessive Pied the cere stays pink in the male but this is a hen

 

Here is the whole post that is in the FAQ http://forums.budgiebreeders.asn.au/index....showtopic=14978

Recessive hens are the same as any hens..........whitish pink when not in condition and brown when they are. Recessive cocks have pink ceres at all times.

Whitish pink.... i cant make up my mind okay i'll stick with 50/50 each way....we are all going to have to wait till tomorrow ^.^