hello again

well with aug September still a fair way off i decided i had 4 empty breeding cages empty and ready for use

and just happens i have a few pairs ready to go

so i decided to put them up ,while i wait for my chicks in nest to grow that way as per normal i will have babys hatching as babys are leaving nests this keeps me continuously with something to do

so first pair i put down is as follows

 

a gf cobalt domanant pie hen (with normal wing markings )

 

 

to

a spangle vishual violet cock

 

 

 

expected out come will be as bellow

 

50 percent spangle

50 percent normal

 

50 percent domanant pied

50 percent normal

 

colours being : violet skyblue,skyblue,cobalt,violet cobalt,mauve and violet mauve

 

at least one to two chicks being golden face but possably more

 

 

then i have

a mauve opaline dominant pie hen

 

 

 

to

a skyblue (normal wing markings)split for opaline and split for rececive pie

 

 

that should producess me :

 

50 percent visual violets

50 percent cobalts

 

of the following mutations

 

50 percent opaline

50 percent normal

with

25 percent being cocks split for opaline

25 percent being opaline (cocks that is )

25 percent normal hens

and 25 percent opaline hens ..........but wait theirs more !

 

as the hens mother and father are both split for rececive pie

as is the cock she is with

that could mean that i get a few if not more or at least one rececive pied in this clutches out come (if she got rec gene passed on )

 

then my 1 factor violet skyblue cinnamon opaline hen

in frount

 

then

cinnamon (normal wing ) violet mauve split lacewing split opaline cock

on right looking at you

 

this will give me

all cinnamon

 

50 percent visual violets

50 percent cobalts

 

of the following mutations

 

50 percent opaline

50 percent normal

with

25 percent being cocks split for opaline

25 percent being opaline (cocks that is )

25 percent normal hens

and 25 percent opaline hens

 

and lacewing hens i hope

 

then last pair is

 

a golden face cinnamon opaline 1 factor violet dominant pied hen

 

 

and a

skyblue (normal wing) split for cinnamon ,opaline and rececive pied

 

 

 

these pair will give me same rezults as the mauve pairing with the rececive pie out come a posability as the goldenface hens father was split rec pied as is her partner (again if she got the gene passed )

 

50 percent visual violets

50 percent cobalts

 

of the following mutations

 

50 percent opaline

50 percent normal

with

25 percent being cocks split for opaline

25 percent being opaline (cocks that is )

25 percent normal hens

and 25 percent opaline hens .....also cinnamon cocks and hens normal hens all cocks that apear normal will b split cinnamon

 

got to be happy with that

i cant wait

pretty sure thats all corect

are you sure that the hen in pair one is a dominant pied, not a recessive pied?

are you sure that the hen in pair one is a dominant pied, not a recessive pied?

 

yes dav it is dominant pied mate it is badly marked as its father was a rec pie mum a df dom pie

the to doms are full blood sisters

the golden face ones

 

they do have iris rings

Edited July 13, 200916 yr by GenericBlue

I love em, especialy the first pair!

you see when you mix rec pie and dom pie genes some times the birds markings become displased as you would know dave

and some time they dont get iris rings or only one eye has them

its not the done thing to do but i dont mind as these are for colour out come and prettyness not for anyother reason

if i was going to breed doms for show whicch one day i may just

i wouldnt have a rec pie in miles of it or visa versa if i was going to breed rec pied for show

 

if a dom is split rec pied as well if put with a rec pied or a split for rec pied bird you can get

rec pieds and doms in one nest as well as with the split rec pie you also get norms in mix

then i have

a mauve opaline dominant pie hen

 

 

 

to

a skyblue (normal wing markings)split for opaline and split for rececive pie

 

 

that should producess me :

 

50 percent visual violets

50 percent cobalts

 

of the following mutations

 

50 percent opaline

50 percent normal

with

25 percent being cocks split for opaline

25 percent being opaline (cocks that is )

25 percent normal hens

and 25 percent opaline hens ..........but wait theirs more !

 

okay i have do this and i got 3 pieds and 1 normal but the pieds look like recessive pieds but with ring's on the eyes

Edited July 22, 200916 yr by KAZ

well you could have if she looks like that

got a picture shannon

yes that are not blue but

 

mum

 

dad

 

baby

 

now

 

Edited July 13, 200916 yr by shannon bird breeder

a gf cobalt domanant pie hen (with normal wing markings )

 

 

to

a spangle vishual violet cock

 

 

 

this pair have two eggs first layed 20th july

second layed 22nd july

 

 

then i have

a mauve opaline dominant pie hen

 

 

 

to

a skyblue (normal wing markings)split for opaline and split for rececive pie

 

 

this pair she is bumming up and egg forming so should be egg in few days

 

this next pair was put back in aviry as i wanted to do all show stock together

and pet types first

so i replaced them with

 

 

my gf sky opaline spangle / rec pied /cinnamon cock (jimmy banks) and

maisie (my cinnamon opaline df dominant pied /rec pied hen)

 

 

this is replacment pairing

they are due to have first egg any day now

they were paired up on 14th this pair

 

next ....

 

a golden face cinnamon opaline 1 factor violet dominant pied hen

 

 

and a

skyblue (normal wing) split for cinnamon ,opaline and rececive pied

 

 

 

this pair have two eggs

first egg layed the 20th july

second egg layed today 22nd july

 

 

so thats whats happening at my place

all birds laying as expected acording to my calculations :hug:

Edited July 22, 200916 yr by GenericBlue

WOW G_B, Thet are all beautiful........can't wait to see what they produce..... :hug:

WOW G_B, Thet are all beautiful........can't wait to see what they produce.....

 

thank you all chicks will be for sale with these birds except one from each clutch depending if i get the out come im hopeing for

mabe they will all go

who knows time will tell

a gf cobalt domanant pie hen (with normal wing markings )

 

 

to

a spangle vishual violet cock

 

 

 

this pair have two eggs first layed 20th july

second layed 22nd july

24th third egg

today another egg makes 4

 

 

then i have

a mauve opaline dominant pie hen

 

 

 

to

a skyblue (normal wing markings)split for opaline and split for rececive pie

 

 

this pair she is bumming up and egg forming so should be egg in few days

still no egg but soon

 

this next pair was put back in aviry as i wanted to do all show stock together

and pet types first

so i replaced them with

 

 

my gf sky opaline spangle / rec pied /cinnamon cock (jimmy banks) and

maisie (my cinnamon opaline df dominant pied /rec pied hen)

 

 

this is replacment pairing

they are due to have first egg any day now

they were paired up on 14th this pair

okay this pair layed first egg today the 26th july

 

 

next ....

 

a golden face cinnamon opaline 1 factor violet dominant pied hen

 

 

and a

skyblue (normal wing) split for cinnamon ,opaline and rececive pied

 

 

 

this pair have two eggs

first egg layed the 20th july

second egg layed today 22nd july

24th july 3rd egg

and today 4

 

so its the 27th monday july 09

the dom mauve opaline layed her first egg today

up date

df opaline cinnamon dom pie /rec pie and

gf sky opaline spangle/cinn/rec pied have two eggs today the 28th july 09

Very pretty birds GB can't wait to see the babies.

Very pretty birds GB can't wait to see the babies.

 

nether can i these are third and fourth generation breeding so im expecting certain things but dont know

its a test on myself i have set to see if my genetic knowledge is on par

their should be some nice little suprize packets in their

and depending if my call on my birds colours and mutations are correct or not will depend on the results

this is what im testing if i am correct in my colours and mutations

as if im not the expectations change

okay

dom mauve pie hen

2 eggs today

 

df dom pie

2 eggs

 

dom pie norm

4 eggs

 

cin dom pie

4 eggs

 

:thankyou: all is well all hens sitting after first egg fingers cross their all good mums

i have fosters on had in case

okay

dom mauve pie hen

2 eggs today

 

df dom pie

2 eggs

 

dom pie norm

4 eggs

 

cin dom pie

4 eggs

 

:rip: all is well all hens sitting after first egg fingers cross their all good mums

i have fosters on had in case

Do your foster's have egg's/baby's of their own?

okay

dom mauve pie hen

2 eggs today

 

df dom pie

2 eggs

 

dom pie norm

4 eggs

 

cin dom pie

4 eggs

 

all is well all hens sitting after first egg fingers cross their all good mums

i have fosters on had in case

Do your foster's have egg's/baby's of their own?

 

what i do matt dog is i put up birds i want to breed with and at same time i put up birds that i have wouldnt mind chicks from but lays large clutches say 7 to eight eggs

then as all my birds lay on same days or next day as you can see here in my post

all the birds lay together meaning all chicks around same ages when hatching

two foster hens per few pairs the fosters are birds i know are spot on layers so i pair them up a week in advance to other birds they are also birds i never seprerate they stay with same mate for life in my flock

so when i see the other birds ready then i put them all down (remembering i watch who is in condition closely )

the fosters start laying usually two to three days before my other birds

so if i need a foster their is two to choose from

but its not often that i do

they get to raise all their own chicks unless some one has troubble feeding they not really their for any other reason than a respite mum for hens needing help feeding chicks i will stick a chick in for a top up from fosters if i feel mum not doing to good

then once feed back with mum as fosters fill the chicks soon as i place them in so they dont always need to stay with foster

its hard to explain really but its always worked for me

i used a foster to let my lacewing have a first clutch recently

foster had 8 eggs lacewing had 5 all clear so i moved the clear egg out and replaced with five fertile due one same days as her own

she raised them all hatched them perfict and now i wont have problems when i want to breed her for her true peruse show birds .so they come in many uses i save 4 chicks from madien hens that didnt know what to do with the new one by getting respite feeds then handing the chicks back few days latter as the foster chicks were two days old but pet type so small the bigger birds got the idea second chicks were fed and fosters got their own chick back once i see new mum fed seconed chick then mum gets her own baby back all happy

just need very good book work matt dog but matt first time i have really used them was my first failed atempt at show size birds of not show standeds like a try run lol see what im in for .

okay

dom mauve pie hen

4 eggs today

 

df dom pie

5 eggs

 

dom pie norm

7 eggs

 

cin dom pie

7 eggs

 

all is well all hens sitting after first egg fingers cross their all good mums

i have fosters on had in case :rofl:

 

i have eggs with other birds also

making total egg tally at 29 eggs

3 with albino

2 with splat bird

1 with lace wing

okay

dom mauve pie hen

4 eggs today

 

df dom pie

5 eggs

 

dom pie norm

7 eggs

 

cin dom pie

7 eggs

 

all is well all hens sitting after first egg fingers cross their all good mums

i have fosters on had in case

 

i have eggs with other birds also

making total egg tally at 29 eggs

3 with albino

2 with splat bird

1 with lace wing

 

okay quota changed

 

dom mauve pie hen

5 eggs today

 

df dom pie

6 eggs

 

dom pie norm

7 eggs

 

cin dom pie

7 eggs

 

albino has 3 eggs

 

splat has 3

lacewing still one

 

32 eggs all up

first due on monday 10th

dom pie

and cin dom pies

then the hatching all begins

yay how eggciting i hope all goes well for you darl

okay we now have

 

dom pie x violet still 7 eggs and sitting well due first egg on 10th aug

 

cin opaline dom x sky norm/ cinn/opaline/recpie with 7 eggs sitting well first due 10th aug

 

df dom opaline cinnamon / rec pie x yf opaline sky spangle / rec pie on 6 eggs still laying so didnt look up hatch date but few days after the doms chicks start hatching everything starts hatching so..

 

mauve dom opaline x sky norm/opaline/rec 5 eggs sitting well think thats it will see

 

splat hen x clear flighted pie 4 eggs today

 

lacewing two eggs

 

albino 4 eggs

 

cant wait sooooon ....

okay i went out to my birds to feed clean and cheak hens are okay in boxes

and to my suprize

a baby in my dom pie x violet clutch

well its only a suprize as my birds usually 21 day incubation this hen 18 day on dot

then i check her sister the cin opaline dom pie and their is another chick

18 days to dot so i will write that down as to know next time their length of sitting

both chicks healthy one was feed very well the other not at all

i couldnt remember how long chicks can go with out feed but think its 12 hours mabe 8 but what ever it is i wasnt chancing it on such a cold and stormy night i swaped the chicks as so the un feed one would be fed

i will swap back in morn

if anyone thinks i should just put both chicks in the nest were feeding is happening let me know as i was conserned the one who didnt feed could actually still not feed rezulting in the death of the chick if that makes any sence i will try explain again if it does not

cheers

oh df dom has 7 eggs now

splat has 5 eggs and lacewing 3

okay so today both chick are well feed really good by the one sister

 

i replaced chick with original mum and will check if she is feeding through out day