Sounds like these boys may have just become fat and lazy Off to the budgie gym soon enough...

Sounds like these boys may have just become fat and lazy Off to the budgie gym soon enough...

 

you think

i hope so

they dont seem to be heavy they have that light weaight feel to them

you know they not fat not thin but not as plump as most my birds

well i think the one we saw fly may be alright and hopefully will be able to fly more than he can. but i REALLY hope the other one is able to fly soon too as it is such a shame for such beatiful and expensive birds. good luck with it

well i think the one we saw fly may be alright and hopefully will be able to fly more than he can. but i REALLY hope the other one is able to fly soon too as it is such a shame for such beatiful and expensive birds. good luck with it

 

they were a bargon actually so im not complaning about price besides thats the risk you take with show birds you may pay big and get nothing more than a preety bird

or you may just snap up a price stud

Once again GB good luck. Keep with them for a while.

hi gb

was reading this and in my way of thinking the only problem you have with these birds is the fact they have been left in a small cage for a time just eating and drinking i HOPE that after they have been in bigger flight and strenghened up you will find they can fly the fact one is sort of flying leads me to believe they will but have to build up the strengh first i dont think it will be a long time

i have had a similar experience with my crest babies i had to leave some in their breeding cage because they were crestbred and looked normal like half dozen others untill i could get some split rings on their legs this made them not fly at all when let out for a time they were in cage for a bit it took a while but when they were stronger they flew so hope thats it for you like me :laughter: :rofl:

Edited July 13, 200915 yr by ghazzigh

hi gb

was reading this and in my way of thinking the only problem you have with these birds is the fact they have been left in a small cage for a time just eating and drinking i HOPE that after they have been in bigger flight and strenghened up you will find they can fly the fact one is sort of flying leads me to believe they will but have to build up the strengh first i dont think it will be a long time

i have had a similar experience with my crest babies i had to leave some in their breeding cage because they were crestbred and looked normal like half dozen others untill i could get some split rings on their legs this made them not fly at all when let out for a time they were in cage for a bit it took a while but when they were stronger they flew so hope thats it for you like me :laughter: :rofl:

 

thanks mate i can only hope as they are so beautiful and im very picky with what i buy so waited a while before even finding birds i liked

just shows you that you need to really trust your seller and that its always best to ask simple questions like

 

can they fly no matter how dumb you may feel asking it

i have decided that if they dont come good and fly i wont breed them

they can like live happy in their own aviary with 0ther birds that have been retired or for some reason i do not breed

 

it may sound silly to some and a waste of two lovely boys but to me i wouldnt care if they were supper studs from top of the line quality stud

if their is even a chance that a baby may pop up in future generations flightless then i dont want to be a countable for that

birds are born to fly

not hop or anything else so.....thats just me

yeah sure i may get good quality birds with big heads and nice stance follow through ect ect but thats where i belive for me the line stops and the challange to fine others starts im just begining my line it needs to be soilid and glitch free or i will go backwards farst

their will be other beautiful boys out their

i just need to be pationt and wait till i can manage to fine one with the look im after and then i will be able to start a good strong line

knowing that

their will be no way, i may in future be selling someone a bird that possably may( probbly not) but may throw flightless birds

 

thats not what i want to b known for in this hobby i want to be known for my dedication to keeping my birds healthy with all the quality needed to breed that winning bird i want to know for myself that my birds are worth people bringing into their stud

yes im years off that but when i get their at least my birds will all beable to fly

hi gb

was reading this and in my way of thinking the only problem you have with these birds is the fact they have been left in a small cage for a time just eating and drinking i HOPE that after they have been in bigger flight and strenghened up you will find they can fly the fact one is sort of flying leads me to believe they will but have to build up the strengh first i dont think it will be a long time

i have had a similar experience with my crest babies i had to leave some in their breeding cage because they were crestbred and looked normal like half dozen others untill i could get some split rings on their legs this made them not fly at all when let out for a time they were in cage for a bit it took a while but when they were stronger they flew so hope thats it for you like me

 

thanks mate i can only hope as they are so beautiful and im very picky with what i buy so waited a while before even finding birds i liked

just shows you that you need to really trust your seller and that its always best to ask simple questions like

 

can they fly no matter how dumb you may feel asking it

i have decided that if they dont come good and fly i wont breed them

they can like live happy in their own aviary with 0ther birds that have been retired or for some reason i do not breed

 

it may sound silly to some and a waste of two lovely boys but to me i wouldnt care if they were supper studs from top of the line quality stud

if their is even a chance that a baby may pop up in future generations flightless then i dont want to be a countable for that

birds are born to fly

not hop or anything else so.....thats just me

yeah sure i may get good quality birds with big heads and nice stance follow through ect ect but thats where i belive for me the line stops and the challange to fine others starts im just begining my line it needs to be soilid and glitch free or i will go backwards farst

their will be other beautiful boys out their

i just need to be pationt and wait till i can manage to fine one with the look im after and then i will be able to start a good strong line

knowing that

their will be no way, i may in future be selling someone a bird that possably may( probbly not) but may throw flightless birds

 

thats not what i want to b known for in this hobby i want to be known for my dedication to keeping my birds healthy with all the quality needed to breed that winning bird i want to know for myself that my birds are worth people bringing into their stud

yes im years off that but when i get their at least my birds will all beable to fly

 

we need more people with your attitude you are going to go really well doing your show stock in time to come i just know it

just one thing gb if you could change your mind and put the birds in with some others i think it would be of great benifit if they could see and watch other birds doing things like flying feeding etc you said they young i dont think they have had the oppertunity to do that this will make them more secure and very much less nervous because there is always something happening in a flight when we are not around whereas as at this stage all they seem to know is each other and it would be pretty much them sitting there which is probably why they freak out when you go in im sure it was all this that helped mine you know

hi gb

was reading this and in my way of thinking the only problem you have with these birds is the fact they have been left in a small cage for a time just eating and drinking i HOPE that after they have been in bigger flight and strenghened up you will find they can fly the fact one is sort of flying leads me to believe they will but have to build up the strengh first i dont think it will be a long time

i have had a similar experience with my crest babies i had to leave some in their breeding cage because they were crestbred and looked normal like half dozen others untill i could get some split rings on their legs this made them not fly at all when let out for a time they were in cage for a bit it took a while but when they were stronger they flew so hope thats it for you like me

 

thanks mate i can only hope as they are so beautiful and im very picky with what i buy so waited a while before even finding birds i liked

just shows you that you need to really trust your seller and that its always best to ask simple questions like

 

can they fly no matter how dumb you may feel asking it

i have decided that if they dont come good and fly i wont breed them

they can like live happy in their own aviary with 0ther birds that have been retired or for some reason i do not breed

 

it may sound silly to some and a waste of two lovely boys but to me i wouldnt care if they were supper studs from top of the line quality stud

if their is even a chance that a baby may pop up in future generations flightless then i dont want to be a countable for that

birds are born to fly

not hop or anything else so.....thats just me

yeah sure i may get good quality birds with big heads and nice stance follow through ect ect but thats where i belive for me the line stops and the challange to fine others starts im just begining my line it needs to be soilid and glitch free or i will go backwards farst

their will be other beautiful boys out their

i just need to be pationt and wait till i can manage to fine one with the look im after and then i will be able to start a good strong line

knowing that

their will be no way, i may in future be selling someone a bird that possably may( probbly not) but may throw flightless birds

 

thats not what i want to b known for in this hobby i want to be known for my dedication to keeping my birds healthy with all the quality needed to breed that winning bird i want to know for myself that my birds are worth people bringing into their stud

yes im years off that but when i get their at least my birds will all beable to fly

 

we need more people with your attitude you are going to go really well doing your show stock in time to come i just know it

just one thing gb if you could change your mind and put the birds in with some others i think it would be of great benifit if they could see and watch other birds doing things like flying feeding etc you said they young i dont think they have had the oppertunity to do that this will make them more secure and very much less nervous because there is always something happening in a flight when we are not around whereas as at this stage all they seem to know is each other and it would be pretty much them sitting there which is probably why they freak out when you go in im sure it was all this that helped mine you know

thanks i hope i do well

as for the boys

i put them into a aviary with others

as i to believe they may just need time, more i think about it the more it seems to make scene

i know this breeder would not of deliberately started me off on a wrong foot

and also that they have good stock healthy and well looked after so...

imleaving it their and will see what happens now they have some friends

well i will let you all know the out come when it comes time

I think that for some show birds when they are in a small cage, it is no good for their wing muscles. I remember Kaz telling me once before she built her current aviary that all her birds were in cages, and she was concerned about their well being, specifically the wing muscles. Her current aviary was built to enable her birds to get back into a "flying" environment. I think you may find that your birds will come good. Give them a month or two then reassess them.

 

As for not breeding with them, I would not go that far. I do not think that the non-flying thing is a genetic factor, but rather a learned behaviour from two birds who have not had the chance to stretch their wings.

 

Are the boys related?

 

You said you put them in the aviary. How long were they in quarantine?

I think that for some show birds when they are in a small cage, it is no good for their wing muscles. I remember Kaz telling me once before she built her current aviary that all her birds were in cages, and she was concerned about their well being, specifically the wing muscles. Her current aviary was built to enable her birds to get back into a "flying" environment. I think you may find that your birds will come good. Give them a month or two then reassess them.

 

As for not breeding with them, I would not go that far. I do not think that the non-flying thing is a genetic factor, but rather a learned behaviour from two birds who have not had the chance to stretch their wings.

 

Are the boys related?

 

You said you put them in the aviary. How long were they in quarantine?

 

the boys are brothers

and yes in aviary

but not THE aviary

i have a few aviarys dave the one they are in is for birds that i wont be breeding their is only a few in their 3 to be exact

one was prolaps hen

others beyond age

I think that for some show birds when they are in a small cage, it is no good for their wing muscles. I remember Kaz telling me once before she built her current aviary that all her birds were in cages, and she was concerned about their well being, specifically the wing muscles. Her current aviary was built to enable her birds to get back into a "flying" environment. I think you may find that your birds will come good. Give them a month or two then reassess them.

 

As for not breeding with them, I would not go that far. I do not think that the non-flying thing is a genetic factor, but rather a learned behaviour from two birds who have not had the chance to stretch their wings.

 

Are the boys related?

 

You said you put them in the aviary. How long were they in quarantine?

 

the boys are brothers

and yes in aviary

but not THE aviary

i have a few aviarys dave the one they are in is for birds that i wont be breeding their is only a few in their 3 to be exact

one was prolaps hen

others beyond age

I have recently bought 5 surplus birds from showbreeder, they could not fly either, after quarantine when I put them in aviary. Don't think they realised they could fly but with a bit of gentle encouragement they started a bit at a time, now can't stop them apart from one "lazy" hen. Don't know how long they were caged for so don't give up I think it's just lack of space. Hope this helps

I think that for some show birds when they are in a small cage, it is no good for their wing muscles. I remember Kaz telling me once before she built her current aviary that all her birds were in cages, and she was concerned about their well being, specifically the wing muscles. Her current aviary was built to enable her birds to get back into a "flying" environment. I think you may find that your birds will come good. Give them a month or two then reassess them.

 

As for not breeding with them, I would not go that far. I do not think that the non-flying thing is a genetic factor, but rather a learned behaviour from two birds who have not had the chance to stretch their wings.

 

Are the boys related?

 

You said you put them in the aviary. How long were they in quarantine?

 

the boys are brothers

and yes in aviary

but not THE aviary

i have a few aviarys dave the one they are in is for birds that i wont be breeding their is only a few in their 3 to be exact

one was prolaps hen

others beyond age

I have recently bought 5 surplus birds from showbreeder, they could not fly either, after quarantine when I put them in aviary. Don't think they realised they could fly but with a bit of gentle encouragement they started a bit at a time, now can't stop them apart from one "lazy" hen. Don't know how long they were caged for so don't give up I think it's just lack of space. Hope this helps

 

thank you robyn

 

i did talk to the seller and they were quiet happy to refund me if i washed they did not relise the birds could not fly

as they were not his birds as i said he just brought them closser to me for me i said no as it was really my over look as well so... if they dont its all learning curb for me

 

the better one he flew a foot today so very good sighn

he wants to stay close to brother though so... im wondering if i should seperate as brother who is named joey just hops

and this discorages herman (the other one) and he went back to floor to sit with him

they seem lost without eachother

but i feel he may have a chance if with only the others without the brother

if i was you i will keep tham i got fm birds in my a aviary rite now and birds that do not fly

 

if i have /lacewings like that i wood breed tham to get my line going thay are good birds

 

i have breed a fm bird and it had 14 baby and 1 off tham had fm that is it

if i was you i will keep tham i got fm birds in my a aviary rite now and birds that do not fly

 

if i have /lacewings like that i wood breed tham to get my line going thay are good birds

 

i have breed a fm bird and it had 14 baby and 1 off tham had fm that is it

 

thank you shannon for that thats more the kind of knolage i need when deciding weather or not to breed the boys

 

good news though the best looking boy from the pair is taking small flights every day

as he is still growing in his tail im sure he will become strong and fly well over time

the brother still wont even try just hopes so oh well

still may not breed them just see

is okay i hope you breed tham

is okay i hope you breed tham

 

time will tell they only o8 birds so ....

okay good luck

up date on these two splendid boys

 

well no change with joey but he is becoming more beautiful every day i can see why people just breed them regardless of their flightlessness

 

herman the other cock he can fly across low to the ground about 1 and a half feet high i think he would fly more only he wants to be with brother all the time

he wont leave his side

and alot of my other birds are spending the days on the ground or low perches placed their for them

i dont think this is good

would you remove the jumpping one and give the better one a chance or would you just leave them be :hap:

Thats a hard question GB. If one brother is now flying somewhat, thats definately good news. As long as he is flying around even if only low flights, that should help keep him in shape and more than any other bird it is this brother that may encourage the other one to fly.

 

When you say your birds are spending more time on the lower perches, are they sitting low because of the brother that doesnt fly? I think thats so nice of them to go down to him and be social :hap: I dont at all think its bad for your birds but thats just me.

 

Its really up to you but i dont see any problems that would cause me concern or make me want to split up the brothers. Might pay to see what others think They really are gorgeous!

Thats a hard question GB. If one brother is now flying somewhat, thats definately good news. As long as he is flying around even if only low flights, that should help keep him in shape and more than any other bird it is this brother that may encourage the other one to fly.

 

When you say your birds are spending more time on the lower perches, are they sitting low because of the brother that doesnt fly? I think thats so nice of them to go down to him and be social I dont at all think its bad for your birds but thats just me.

 

Its really up to you but i dont see any problems that would cause me concern or make me want to split up the brothers. Might pay to see what others think They really are gorgeous!

 

yes it is because they are keeping brothers company it is cute but im usto my birds flying around not waddling on the floor like ducks lol and sitting down low the aviary looks bare

okay i will wait for other advice also

your probbly right though no harm nothings broke so dont fix hay

Thats a hard question GB. If one brother is now flying somewhat, thats definately good news. As long as he is flying around even if only low flights, that should help keep him in shape and more than any other bird it is this brother that may encourage the other one to fly.

 

When you say your birds are spending more time on the lower perches, are they sitting low because of the brother that doesnt fly? I think thats so nice of them to go down to him and be social I dont at all think its bad for your birds but thats just me.

 

Its really up to you but i dont see any problems that would cause me concern or make me want to split up the brothers. Might pay to see what others think They really are gorgeous!

 

yes it is because they are keeping brothers company it is cute but im usto my birds flying around not waddling on the floor like ducks lol and sitting down low the aviary looks bare

okay i will wait for other advice also

your probbly right though no harm nothings broke so dont fix hay

hi if they were mine i would seperate them because if god forbids something happened to one the bond they seem to share already would maybe cause the other to fret and die too better to do it now being two boys while they young and strong and can get over it than prolonging bond now i wouldnt want to lose any of them and certanily not both it would be diffrent if they were unrelated hen and cock they could be bred and stay together just my thoughts sorry

you make a good point

dont be sorry

i was wondering what may happen if i did chose to breed the healthy flying one

what the out come would be

he may not pair with anyone being so close to brother

so this a valared statement

something to consider

thought it was time for update on the brothers joey and Herman

 

joey is still just jumping around however i dont think it was caused through french molt as Herman is flying around as if nothing ever stopped him

they both were feathered lovely and both went through first molt in my care

 

so news is Herman found himself a woman

as has joey

only as im not going to breed for a while joey wont be able to have a clutch yet

and Herman well hes chicks due around 4 days

so ....

 

 

i wont be breeding joey as his going on a holiday as is his girlfriend

to a new home in wa

just waiting till next year and the cooler months to arive then they can start their new family

 

so thats it the upk out come if any once it arives

i have not candled eggs nor am i going to

if the hatch they do if not well they dont

time will tell and not long now

:hurryup:

Wooohooo! Great news! I knew those studs would find some hot ladies