helllllo everyone

got a quick easy one for you

 

i know the mutation out come

 

opaline grey green/lacewing to blue based opaline lacewing hen

gives rezult of

lacewing cocks

lacewing hens

normal hens

and / lacewing cocks

all opaline

but not sure if i got the colour expectation right

as i have been told grey green only gives you green / blues or grey greens

however i got taught diffrent but since i was only thirteen and have since aquired memory losss i do not bother to start the debate on colour out come from a grey green to blue breeding

which by way i belive you can get blue chicks from but

am told er er wrong

so please explain to me

with a grey green bird and a blue based bird what colours should i expect to see in my nest

would i be right in saying

green

grey green

grey

yellow (being / lacewing to white lacewing pairing )

white

blue

 

 

oh and if cock possably holding violet could i get a violet pop up ????? or more violet greens and is it even possable for a grey green to hold violet ??? member i have only ever stricktly breed blue base birds so this green is new to me but nesasary so if im going to do this whole haeartedly i need to know what to expect

hope some of you guys can help me cheers ,oh one more thing

can a grey green breed blue chicks with another green bird thanks

Edited July 10, 200916 yr by KAZ

Green bird X blue bird = 100% green/blue chicks

Green bird x green/blue bird = 50% green, 50% green/blue chicks (impossible to know which is split without breeding)

Green/blue x blue = 50% green/blue, 50% blue chicks

Green/blue x Green/blue = 25% green, 50% green/blue, 25%blue

 

SF Greygreen x blue = 50% greygreen/blue, 50% green/blue

SF Greygreen bird x green/blue bird = 25% green, 25% greygreen, 25% greygreen/blue chicks, 25% green/blue(impossible to know which is split without breeding)

SF Graygreen/blue x blue = 25% greygreen/blue, 25% green/blue, 25% grey chicks, 25% blue chicks

SF Greygreen/blue x Green/blue = 12.5% greygreen, 12.5% green, 25% greygreen/blue, 25% green/blue, 12.5% grey, 12.5% blue

SF Greygreen/blue x SF Greygreen/blue = 6.25% green, 12.5% SF greygreen, 6.25% DF greygreen, 12.5% green/blue, 25% SF greygreen/blue, 12.5% DF greygreen/blue , 6.25% blue, 12.5% SF grey, 6.25% DF grey

 

Wont get into the double factors just now lol

while talking about sf grey factor birds, how can you tell between a sf and df grey green etc? how did you do that complicared stuff

while talking about sf grey factor birds, how can you tell between a sf and df grey green etc? how did you do that complicared stuff

 

You can only tell through breeding. SF and DF greys in the green or blue series dont appear any different from eachother. The only way you can tell is by breeding them to normal blues and greens, and the way you tell is because you will get all greys or greygreens from that one grey parent paired to a normal.

 

And i did all those breeding outcomes in my head. So i may be wrong, but im pretty sure they're all right.

so all im going to get is green birds

man

i thought i would get some yellow lacewings at least um hang on yellow lacewings are green birds :hmm: :doh:

so i will get no white lacewings only yellow ?????????

 

mum was yellow lacewing and the dad was grey bird so the / lacewing birds (grey green ) would be split blue or is that wrong

and if so what do i get exactly from a

 

white lacewing hen

to

grey green/lacewing cock

come on guys im not acting dumb im really stuck with this i want to make sure i dont go stuffing up my plain before i start it

please some one set me straight my brain cant cope out comes at moment got other stuff its trying to retain

Yes that would mean the greygreen cock is split for blue and for lacewing.

 

So greygreen/blue & lacewing X opaline lacewing blue hen =

 

Cocks:

6.25% greygreen/blue & lacewing, 6.25% greygreen/blue lacewing (mustard yellow lacewing?)

6.25% green/blue & lacewing, 6.25% green/blue lacewing (yellow lacewing)

6.25% grey/lacewing, 6.25% white lacewing (masking grey)

6.25% blue/lacewing, 6.25% white lacewing (masking blue - should be identifiable when in sunlight due to a faint blue sheen on the feathers that a lacewing masking grey wont have)

- (all cocks split for opaline)

 

Hens:

6.25% greygreen/blue lacewing (mustard yellow lacewing?) 6.25% greygreen/blue

6.25% green/blue lacewing (yellow lacewing), 6.25% green/blue

6.25% white lacewing (masking grey), 6.25% grey

6.25% white lacewing (masking blue), 6.25%blue

Edited July 10, 200916 yr by Dean_NZ

Yes that would mean the greygreen cock is split for blue and for lacewing.

 

So greygreen/blue & lacewing X opaline lacewing blue hen =

 

Cocks:

6.25% greygreen/blue & lacewing, 6.25% greygreen/blue lacewing (mustard yellow lacewing?)

6.25% green/blue & lacewing, 6.25% green/blue lacewing (yellow lacewing)

6.25% grey/lacewing, 6.25% white lacewing (masking grey)

6.25% blue/lacewing, 6.25% white lacewing (masking blue - should be identifiable when in sunlight due to a faint blue sheen on the feathers that a lacewing masking grey wont have)

- (all cocks split for opaline)

 

Hens:

6.25% greygreen/blue lacewing (mustard yellow lacewing?) 6.25% greygreen/blue

6.25% green/blue lacewing (yellow lacewing), 6.25% green/blue

6.25% white lacewing (masking grey), 6.25% grey

6.25% white lacewing (masking blue), 6.25%blue

 

thank you so much dean i wasnt sure if they were split blue

thought they were as dad being grey but i got told you cant get blue from grey greens so was a tad lost

id be happy with that out come

i fore see a white lacewing cock

i very much hope

again thanks

ALSO / how do i change any mustared lacewings back to yellow

do i use a light green or a what?????

and how doe i keep the yellow that bright buttercup

Use normals and in preference dark factor normals. Look for normal birds with strong golden yellow ground colouring some birds have better yellow colouring than others even though they are the same variety. Cinnamon tends to slowly lessen the brightness of the yellow colouring.

thanks nubbly how about a lutino hen with a lacewing cock ?????