It LOOKS like a lutino lacewing or fallow....what colour is its eyes and it would be nice to have pictures of the back and side etc... are you able to make the pictures bigger for us? :rofl:

hi thank you

she has red eyes i got her from petshop yesterday dont know anything else about her exept her ring says o8 i will try some more photos

whopps ia asked you the same question in another topic..lol... she is a lutino lacewing.. she is very nice

hi thank you

she has red eyes i got her from petshop yesterday dont know anything else about her exept her ring says o8 i will try some more photos

 

 

hi thank you

she has red eyes i got her from petshop yesterday dont know anything else about her exept her ring says o8 i will try some more photos

 

 

yes lacewing green based you will get /lacewing cocks if you put her with any cock .

if with put her with a albino you will get lutino /white /lacewing cocks or lutino hens

so that just means the cocks put with white (albino) or blue base birds will produes white

albinos or lacewings hens but im talking lutino or albino put with lutino/ lacewing cock you would get same out come but all lacewings if you put the lutino /lacewing cock to a lacewing hen

hope that makes sence

Edited July 9, 200915 yr by GenericBlue

I answered the other post with the side view she is a Green Lacewing as stated. Very pretty.

Lutino is a different mutation all together.

I answered the other post with the side view she is a Green Lacewing as stated. Very pretty.

Lutino is a different mutation all together.

 

elly is right what i said was to get both mutations from one bird you could do that

GB is right you can have more then 1 mutation on a bird but with Lacewing this is a combination of Lutino (if yellow) or Albino (if white) with Cinnamon Gene together. So saying that a Lacewing = Lutino Cinnamon (but they are not called that they are considered a mutation), it wouldn't be the same as say a Spangle Cinnamon . Now that is confusing.

 

Here is the description: http://www.budgieplace.com/c_lacewing.html

Lacewing

Lacewing is a composite variety of lutino/albino and cinnamon. The budgie is mostly yellow (in yellow-based budgies) or mostly white (in white-based budgies). A suffusion of the body color is slightly visible in the body feathers. The markings of the head, wings, and tail show up as a light cinnamon color and the cheek patches are pale violet. The eyes are red/pink, and the cere of the male lacewing does not change normally. Adult male lacewings have purple ceres. Adult female lacewings have the normal white/tan/brown ceres. This variety is mostly only seen in exhibition budgies.

thanks guys

do you know this bird in real life is a bright yellow without any green showing but in the photo i can see what looks green the only thing i can come up with is the reflection off its dish

thanks guys

do you know this bird in real life is a bright yellow without any green showing but in the photo i can see what looks green the only thing i can come up with is the reflection off its dish

 

you cant always see the sheen

but usually they do have one

if you breed it to a dark olive or mauve or grey that should counteract it and dull the sufusion

im not sure with green base birds i try to stick to blue base as its what i know

It LOOKS like a lutino lacewing or fallow....what colour is its eyes and it would be nice to have pictures of the back and side etc... are you able to make the pictures bigger for us?

Yellow lacewing not lutino.

cool. i learn something new everyday. i got con fused because i read the same thing elly showed so i thought that was a lutino excetra, and yeah

hi guys

quick question while i was hunting down this bird to get ring details i caught what i thought was her and was wondering where her ring had gone but it was a diffrent bird as just above me there she was this bird is nearly identical BUT her eyes are black not red what i want to know is it the same breed even though the eyes arnt red please

No it would not be the same mutation (yes still the same breed a budgie).

No it would not be the same mutation (yes still the same breed a budgie).

 

 

:hug: i made a mistake i meant mutation silly me

I love your birds!

does the other bird have iris rings or not ?????

do you have a picture

back, side and frount best if pos

Probably a blackeyed self but photo's of them both for comparison would be helpful.

Probably a blackeyed self but photo's of them both for comparison would be helpful.

 

thats what i was thinking nubbly or the other alternate could be a cinnamon yellow or a wrongly breed fellow aparently if you breed two fellows of difrent type eg german and i dont know scotis just egzampals your out come is black eyed birds that look like fellows

just a thought

Probably a blackeyed self but photo's of them both for comparison would be helpful.

 

thats what i was thinking nubbly or the other alternate could be a cinnamon yellow or a wrongly breed fellow aparently if you breed two fellows of difrent type eg german and i dont know scotis just egzampals your out come is black eyed birds that look like fellows

just a thought

 

They both have red eyes, though one has iris ring and one does not. Haven't heard of a combination of both - wouldn't that be normal split for both types of fallow or do they act on the same alele and cause major wierdness and black eyes? Plus there is a bit of writting suggesting that the English and Scottish fallows don't exist in Australia.

 

Cinnamon fallows look virutally identical to lacewings but also have red eyes.

 

Cinnamon yellow IS a blackeyed self if I'm understanding the yellow correctly as a dilute.

 

I also had fleeting thoughts of dilutes generally but they usually have much more body colour than lacewings and blackeyes. Might be some other combination that we haven't thought of either I suppose.

 

Still I think we need a picture for proper identification.

Edited July 13, 200915 yr by nubbly5

Probably a blackeyed self but photo's of them both for comparison would be helpful.

 

thats what i was thinking nubbly or the other alternate could be a cinnamon yellow or a wrongly breed fellow aparently if you breed two fellows of difrent type eg german and i dont know scotis just egzampals your out come is black eyed birds that look like fellows

just a thought :laughter:

 

They both have red eyes, though one has iris ring and one does not. Haven't heard of a combination of both - wouldn't that be normal split for both types of fallow or do they act on the same alele and cause major wierdness and black eyes? Plus there is a bit of writting suggesting that the English and Scottish fallows don't exist in Australia.

 

Cinnamon fallows look virutally identical to lacewings but also have red eyes.

 

Cinnamon yellow IS a blackeyed self if I'm understanding the yellow correctly as a dilute.

 

I also had fleeting thoughts of dilutes generally but they usually have much more body colour than lacewings and blackeyes. Might be some other combination that we haven't thought of either I suppose.

 

Still I think we need a picture for proper identification.

 

 

we have english but not scottish

and yes german and one of the other two have a weird reaction causing eyes to turn black a major fault as you could emadjine lol

yes one has rings think its the german fellow not sure on my fellows yet plenty time yet

 

but think english and german okay but scottish and german not ?????

didnt know cinnimon yellow was a blackeyed self

what about a white cinnamon bird with black eyes is that also blackeyeed self????

hello this hen just has black eyes i will put some photos of both up sorry should have thought and did thati dont know where she came from i DONT colony breed must have looked diffrent before moulting or something i dont know anything about lacewings ps this is the one you guys helped out already on identifying for me thank you :laughter:

i wouldnt be lucky to have beautiful fallows or blackeyed selfs or anything along those lines in MY aviary just wouldnt happen i just have common birds

 

 

I love your birds!

thank you my six babies i love my hobbie i get a lot of enjoyment out of them

Edited July 13, 200915 yr by ghazzigh

hello this hen just has black eyes i will put some photos of both up sorry should have thought and did thati dont know where she came from i DONT colony breed must have looked diffrent before moulting or something i dont know anything about lacewings ps this is the one you guys helped out already on identifying for me thank you

i wouldnt be lucky to have beautiful fallows or blackeyed selfs or anything along those lines in MY aviary just wouldnt happen i just have common birds

 

 

I love your birds!

thank you my six babies i love my hobbie i get a lot of enjoyment out of them

 

well the only thing i can think of is its a black eyed self as as nubbly says we dont get german or scottish fellows here so my theroy is out lol

but i thought as much

so birds do moult out darker than when they young sometimes twice their shade if not more by time they adult

do you have rec pied and clearflight pied ( which is basically a domanant pie with out the banding )

as thats all u need to breed black eyed selfs

 

i know you dont colany breed but nor do i and i just got two in one nest from pet types blackeyed selfs

dad was a clearflighted spangle cinnamon

mum a rec pied hen so

and i always just thought dad was spangle as thats what everyone told me when i said he was clear flight

turned out i was right when i first got him 3 years ago

now he was always just with the wrong bird to get anything other than norm/ino and cinnamon hens

Edited July 13, 200915 yr by GenericBlue

hello this hen just has black eyes i will put some photos of both up sorry should have thought and did thati dont know where she came from i DONT colony breed must have looked diffrent before moulting or something i dont know anything about lacewings ps this is the one you guys helped out already on identifying for me thank you

i wouldnt be lucky to have beautiful fallows or blackeyed selfs or anything along those lines in MY aviary just wouldnt happen i just have common birds

 

 

I love your birds!

thank you my six babies i love my hobbie i get a lot of enjoyment out of them

 

well the only thing i can think of is its a black eyed self as as nubbly says we dont get german or scottish fellows here so my theroy is out lol

but i thought as much

so birds do moult out darker than when they young sometimes twice their shade if not more by time they adult

do you have rec pied and clearflight pied ( which is basically a domanant pie with out the banding )

as thats all u need to breed black eyed selfs

 

i know you dont colany breed but nor do i and i just got two in one nest from pet types blackeyed selfs

dad was a clearflighted spangle cinnamon

mum a rec pied hen so

and i always just thought dad was spangle as thats what everyone told me when i said he was clear flight

turned out i was right when i first got him 3 years ago

now he was always just with the wrong bird to get anything other than norm/ino and cinnamon hens

 

yah if this bird isnt a black eyed self i do have these pied types you mentioned gb i havent bred any of them yet i will now they are all over 12 months maybe 14 months

with the colony breeding im not against it at all but i chose the other way more fun for me all i meant by that is i know something else dint jump on and help themselves sometimes wouldnt be a bad idear probably make better choices than me ha

can a spangle be split for these varietys they happen to be show stock lines i was using a few in breeding boxes im not a show breeder bout the time she would of been born i was contrating on my crests and dominate pieds so if the crests didnt show least i had pied birds to look at ect

Edited July 13, 200915 yr by ghazzigh