By The Way what do slates look like in relation to this bird? are they similar or completely different?

By The Way what do slates look like in relation to this bird? are they similar or completely different?

 

this bird is a slate colour

but slate is sexlinked so can not be so i have been told i was told that we dont even have slates here as i thought my boy was slate he fitted the bill but no he i was told is violet grey so very simular in colour

please dont ask about slates nubby :rofl:

i couldnt bare to try and explain that even though i do get it :rofl:

i will send you some stuff on it if you like though

Slate is more of a blue-black isnt it? Whereas this chick is predominantly grey with a tinge of violet, slates are more blue with a black/charcoal tinge to the colour (well, the cobalt slates anyway since they are regarded the best mutation and colour that demonstrates the colour alteration produced by the slate mutation).

 

Slate greys are quite dark im told, but not as dark as anthracites.

Do we have any in Aus or NZ?

 

I do know they are a sex linked variety so the breeding compared to violet, dark factor and grey is quite different but I just wondered how different a slate would be to the bird you have here - I'm pretty sure the cheek patches are still violet though so that e be a giveaway.

Slate is a rare mutation, it is a color adding gene just like violet or grey, it produces a very dark bluish grey in white-based budgies. The darkness of the slate varies slightly according to the dark factor of the bird. Slate, like violet, can be present in a green (yellow-based) budgie, but only produces a darkening effect. True slate only appears on blue (white-based) budgies. This variety is extremely rare.

 

Basic Genetics:

Sex-linked (on the x-chromosome)

 

to see a picture go here http://www.budgieplace.com/c_slate.html plus there is an article about Slates too.

 

I agree with with Neville, had told me.

Slate is a rare mutation, it is a color adding gene just like violet or grey, it produces a very dark bluish grey in white-based budgies. The darkness of the slate varies slightly according to the dark factor of the bird. Slate, like violet, can be present in a green (yellow-based) budgie, but only produces a darkening effect. True slate only appears on blue (white-based) budgies. This variety is extremely rare.

 

Basic Genetics:

Sex-linked (on the x-chromosome)

 

to see a picture go here http://www.budgieplace.com/c_slate.html plus there is an article about Slates too.

 

I agree with with Neville, had told me.

 

yes i agree also with neville

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That's solved it 100% uncategorically a grey. Might possibly be a violet grey or a dark factor grey but 100% a grey. The cheek patch and colouring is definitely a grey bird but Ihave had greys bred through df birds that come out looking that blueish tinge when compared to a normal no df grey bird. But I would imagine that a violet grey could end up looking similar and the baby photo might suggest he has violet in him.

 

Breeding him will give you the answer to that - if after a number of babies, no violet then he is just a dark factor grey.

 

Edit: I just nicked out to look at my dark factor greys and I have to say now that I reckon this guy MUST be violet grey coz although his cheek patches are definitely still in the realms of grey, they are a much deeper blue shade than my dark factor greys.

 

Gee I wonder who said that?

That's solved it 100% uncategorically a grey. Might possibly be a violet grey or a dark factor grey but 100% a grey. The cheek patch and colouring is definitely a grey bird but Ihave had greys bred through df birds that come out looking that blueish tinge when compared to a normal no df grey bird. But I would imagine that a violet grey could end up looking similar and the baby photo might suggest he has violet in him.

 

Breeding him will give you the answer to that - if after a number of babies, no violet then he is just a dark factor grey.

 

Edit: I just nicked out to look at my dark factor greys and I have to say now that I reckon this guy MUST be violet grey coz although his cheek patches are definitely still in the realms of grey, they are a much deeper blue shade than my dark factor greys.

 

Gee I wonder who said that?

 

Excellent :yes: Appreciate that comparitive info! Thanks nubbly

That's solved it 100% uncategorically a grey. Might possibly be a violet grey or a dark factor grey but 100% a grey. The cheek patch and colouring is definitely a grey bird but Ihave had greys bred through df birds that come out looking that blueish tinge when compared to a normal no df grey bird. But I would imagine that a violet grey could end up looking similar and the baby photo might suggest he has violet in him.

 

Breeding him will give you the answer to that - if after a number of babies, no violet then he is just a dark factor grey.

 

Edit: I just nicked out to look at my dark factor greys and I have to say now that I reckon this guy MUST be violet grey coz although his cheek patches are definitely still in the realms of grey, they are a much deeper blue shade than my dark factor greys.

 

Gee I wonder who said that?

 

 

 

Hmmm I wonder :yes:, just kidding, yes I agree!

colour patch Slatty Bluish = grey bird.

"""""" Violet = Mauve.

 

no i beg to differ sorry mate

all my grey birds bar two have the slateish blue as i call it

and all but two are mauve or grey with violet inheritance

 

i know violet = mauve but a grey bird is plainly just grey when the patches are grey

i know this

i know i seem a bit unknowable on this her sight

but im not as dim as i sim

i do say alot wrong her but i relize ive made a mistake and usually someone has come along and corected it so.. but i know that im right on this one it was not long ago that a breeder was in my aviry and mentioned to me that did i relize all my greys bar the two would more than likely produe violets or mauves we discussed this matter for awhile the end rezult being that most people did not know this and just classafied them as grey

i understand im still going to be told im wrong but

go for your life cause i know through the breeding of my bird from starting out with birds of no background history known and also no violet or mauve birds around to buy that i delved into my genetic knolage of inheratance and colour diffientiators to chose birds with my most best posable chance to achive my own violet birds

and im telling you slatish purpulyblue cheek patches = mauve or violet inherated bird

if breed right these birds produce the most beautiful of mauves and violets as they are not grey as i said you have 3 degrees of mauve as you do greys and blues and greens and other colour the first degree is a grey bird that looks to be with a blue sheen (blue grey ) yet apeirs to be grey

well look at the cheek patches cause only grey has grey

but we will probbly beg to differ on this macka

as i will also probbly be told by others im wrong also it does not matter as i know what i do know is right although other things im sure im compleatly off bat with

i was taught my true colour identafing skills through the patches and honestly i think all people should learn to identify colour this way as most people have birds with far more potential (colour wize) than they know

GB are you questioning my answer.on the cheek patch.