June 16, 200915 yr When possible try to deal with females. Generally better human beings. :question: I completely disagree. I have seen both good and bad doctor's, dentists, vets, customer service people, religious members... need I go on, and in my experiece, gender makes squat all difference. The way we deal with humans and animals comes down to our upbringing- people, environment etc... along with other things... yes, females can have a kinder nature, but I don't think that makes them 'generally better human beings' What makes a person a better human being anyway???? All men aren't the same, and neither are woman. I won't go on as this is completely off topic!!! Still thinking of chomper and hope he pulls through or doesn't suffer. Big hugs to you both xoxo
June 16, 200915 yr Author Hi everyone. Thank you all for your thoughts and well wishes in these past few days. I called up at 5:30 to find out that Chomp had passed away just a little while before. I will go in tomorrow morning to take him home, and bury him somewhere where theres lots of birds to keep him company. I will miss him so much, he was my first pet out of home. He lit up my life for the short time I had him, and without him I would never have known the joy caring for a pet would bring me. I thank God for every day he was in my life, and I hope that he enjoyed the time he spent with us in our home. I loved Chomp with all my heart, and know that he is in a better place after fighting so hard. I love you Chomper, rest in peace my little man.
June 16, 200915 yr Hugs least you know you did everything you could for him. Big Hugs when you are ready give me a yell and I can sort you out another Budgie if you want
June 16, 200915 yr Carmen....I am sooo sorry, I have been reading your post but not saying anything as I had no advice to you other than you are an exceptional lady and have done everything humanly possible to help your little Chomp...my prayers and thoughts are with you......Rest in peace Chomp you were a little champion buddy.... xx
June 16, 200915 yr I'm so sorry to hear that, Carmen. Like AV said you did everything you could. RIP Chomp. :question:
June 16, 200915 yr Author Thanks everyone. Just looking though some photos I have of him, wish I had more. AV, thank you so much. I probably wont wait too long, I will have a talk with my vet about what is best for Jim, then get another little one in quarantine so he has some company sooner and doesnt get lonely. I dont like leaving him on his own when I work full time, I have been feeling dreadful about it even when Chomp was in the vet.
June 16, 200915 yr Oh, Carmen I am dreadfully sorry. He is better off rather than being so ill. BUT he was so special to you. I really do grieve with you. Take care. Be good to yourself. :question:
June 16, 200915 yr Biggest hugs on your loss! So sorry, but atleast know he is at peace and not in any more pain. Sadly, most of us here know too well the pain of loosing a 'family member'. We all here for you. xoxo
June 16, 200915 yr I am so so sorry Carmen. You did everything you could for him. We understand how you feel, and please do not hesitate to post here if you need to. We are here for you. Fly free little Chomper. I disagree very strongly about the difference between male and female vets. I think in this case it was just differences in personality. Some of my male colleagues are way more empathic than any of the rest of us girls! Every single human being is different. There are 'good' and there are 'bad' in many ways. Even though I don't agree with what was done, I found your comment about vets very offensive Richo. People are not their jobs. People are people. I believe the vet you went to is open on Saturday and Sunday until 12, so it was half a day with no feed for both days, not the entire weekend as I think it has been interpreted. I still believe in coming in for a critical patient though. The other bird vet that was mentioned does come in on weekends to crop feed even though they don't even open on Saturday, sometimes he takes them home if he can't come in. I'm not sure what happened here, but I'd like to add that vets are in the job of relieving suffering... sometimes even though an animal is surviving, prolonging their life when the prognosis is grave can be painful (in a different way, in addition to feeling empathy for the owner) for vets (who are obviously very tuned into animal welfare or else we wouldn't pick this job!). Not applying it to this situation, but just adding a thought. Edited June 16, 200915 yr by Chrysocome
June 17, 200915 yr Author Hi everyone, thanks very much for your lovely comments and thoughts. Just picked up Chomp, it was lovely how respectfully he was treated after he passed. He was brought to me wrapped in fabric, with his name surrounded in little glittery hearts. I spoke to the vet, she is a lovely woman, told me she was sorry they couldnt get him through the illness especially since we had done everything right, but just didnt pick it up when he came in for his first check up. She gave me a hug after booking in my other budgie for a second consultation to make sure he doesnt have any infection after having been treated when Chomp got sick. We will wait till Jim (my other budgie) gets the all clear (he has an appointment on the 30th), then look into getting him another friend and get him in quarantine - I dont want Jim to be alone. He is very bright and bubbly though, chattering away on his perch. He should be alright, and I will give him lots of extra love and attention to make sure.
June 17, 200915 yr hey, I have about 9 boxes down and a bunch of little jelly beans so when you are ready we will pick a nice one out for you. *hugs* Either way we should catch up for a coffee after all the PMing we have done!
June 17, 200915 yr Author hey, I have about 9 boxes down and a bunch of little jelly beans so when you are ready we will pick a nice one out for you. *hugs* Either way we should catch up for a coffee after all the PMing we have done! :rofl: Thanks so much AV, I think that sounds great.
June 17, 200915 yr So sad of reading Chomps passing. :rofl: You are truly a wonderful person for caring so much and trying so hard to save your little guy. :rofl:
June 17, 200915 yr Author Thanks Boris Slave, he was a good little bird and deserved no less! Buried him last night, in a pretty place with lots of trees and other birds to keep him company. While I do feel a sense of relief from all the grief of the last week, I feel positively nauseated today. And I have seen Jim (his cagemate) sneeze a few times the last few days, so I am cautious. I will probably call the vet today and let her know about it, she told me if I notice anything odd with Jim not to hesitate to call or bring him in. Hopefully its nothing, but I'm so spooked from this week and what poor Chomper went through that I dont want to take any chances!
June 17, 200915 yr I can understand that you are on edge I am still a little on edge after losing so many of mine. It might be a good idea to give Jim some probiotics (you can pick them up from pet shops) just means that if he has to go back on meds his system will be steady and also might give him alittle pick me up sort of like a human taking multi vits
June 18, 200915 yr Author I'll check out the pet store for them AV, sounds like a good idea. I called the vet and she is concerned, and wants to see Jim tonight. Poor little guy, he has been grabbed out of his cage so many times the last few days, he is never going to trust my hands again.
June 18, 200915 yr Author I hope so! We have become rather a lot closer over the last few days, he watches everything I do when I come into the room. Likes watching knitting and what I'm doing on my laptop, so hopefully he will forgive me sooner rather than later! Found out today he doesnt like the NZ lady on the Thin Lizzy ad. Whenever she is on TV, he cracks it!
June 18, 200915 yr I am so sorry I would be devastated if I lost Cosmo, who was also my first pet out of home *massive hugs*
June 19, 200915 yr Author Thanks Krosp Took Jimmy back in to the vet last night. She had a look at the feathers above his cere and said theres no discolouration going on there, and that its possible he was just sneezing because something got up his nose as happens to you or I at any time. She said that its okay that I brought him in, she said she understands that I would be on edge with everything that the Chomper went through and its always safest to check. Instead of having our appointment on the 30th to check for trich, she thought it might be a better idea to just medicate him with both Baytril and ronidazole, one to make sure he doesnt come down with the bacterial infection Chomp ended up with just before he died, and the other to make sure we wipe out any trace of trich. So what I have to do now, is give him 0.2mL of Baytril to the beak twice a day, which he HATES. I end up chasing him around the cage until I manage to corner him at the bottom, pick him up, put him in a box where he squarks and squarks so that I can reposition my hands to hold him correctly to get the medicine in his mouth, the get him back in his cage, where he runs away from me to the furthest part of the cage! Poor little boy, we have to do this day and night for 6 days! He also gets 1/4 teaspoon of ronidazole dissolved in 500mL of water everyday for 5 days, then we will give him 2 weeks off, then another 5 days on. As long as everything looks okay with Jimmy, we can wait a month and then take him back in for a crop wash and fecal test to make sure there are no signs of macrorhabdus or trichomoniasis. He is also going through a terribly heavy moult, poor little guy, he has been through so much stress - being moved from cage to cage, no longer having Chomp around, moulting and now all this handling and medicine.
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